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| Alaundo |
Posted - 28 Nov 2005 : 22:54:59
Well met
This is a Book Club thread for Ghostwalker, book 2 of the Fighters series, by Erik Scott de Bie. Please discuss chapters 8-11 herein: |
| 26 L A T E S T R E P L I E S (Newest First) |
| Erik Scott de Bie |
Posted - 14 Sep 2006 : 17:20:57
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Originally posted by Chosen of Moradin
To be fair, I want to express my appreciation of the almost clothes-less Lyetha. 
You better believe the most beautiful woman in Quaervarr (counting Arya, Cha ~15, being a strong leader and quite pretty) would have a high charisma. We're talking 20 or so here, and it only gets higher as she ages (she's just entering middle age for a half-elf, I believe). 
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And good mention of the Order of the Stick. 
"What are you waiting?"
"It´s a touch spell"
"I think I just had an evilgasm." 
Cheers |
| Chosen of Moradin |
Posted - 14 Sep 2006 : 16:30:28
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Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie
Hmm.
Well, since it's copyrighted by Wizards of the Coast, I can't really do that.
It might end up recycled though, so you will see it eventually.
Cheers
Understand...
Thanks for the attention, anyway. |
| Erik Scott de Bie |
Posted - 14 Sep 2006 : 15:02:08
Hmm.
Well, since it's copyrighted by Wizards of the Coast, I can't really do that.
It might end up recycled though, so you will see it eventually.
Cheers |
| The Red Walker |
Posted - 14 Sep 2006 : 00:05:18
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Originally posted by Chosen of Moradin
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[i]Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie[i/]Ah, the invisible knights scene. One of my favorite to write. Considerably longer in draft, but I had to cut it down for length reasons.
Hmm, good to know this. You can show us the uncuted version of the dialogue???
Hear, Hear!!
I second that motion! All those in favor? *AYE!!*
Motion carries.
Spill it de Bie |
| Chosen of Moradin |
Posted - 13 Sep 2006 : 21:59:12
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Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie
I hadn't thought of Gylther'yel as a master terrorist until just now. And ya know -- she is.
She pass me this feeling from the start. Too much focused and narrow minded. Or, perhaps she´s just acting this way. Who knows?
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It is indeed a good one! And, as I think Gylther'yel shows, it can be pretty scary, eh?
Yes. A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away (I´m talking of the begining of the 90's, when I played Mystara), I play with a druid with a strong tie with the death, and the deads (after all, death is part of the eternal cycle). Think of a masculine version of Amra, and substitute the flowers by bones, and you will get an idea of the character...
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Their relationship is pretty important too -- much like that of Greyt and Lyetha.
This is the point of excellence in the book: you put much more things in a "fighters book" that only fights. That is mysterie, tension, and good done relationships that add an special flavor to the tale.
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Honorary dwarf, no? 
Yes! 
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Ah, the invisible knights scene. One of my favorite to write. Considerably longer in draft, but I had to cut it down for length reasons.
Hmm, good to know this. You can show us the uncuted version of the dialogue???
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I think you mean "unnerved" -- "enervate" would be to sap away life and strength, like the enervation spell.
Thanks. It´s exactly this that I want to say. 
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Glad you liked it! It's one of the "quiet" scenes -- i.e. no action -- but important as hell.
I could feel this, when I was reading. The feeling of the chapter jump out of the book and grab me by the neck.
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Also one of my favorite scenes to write. A number of people have expessed appreciation over that scene -- and a number of fair ladies appreciation for a clothes-less Dharan Greyt. (To borrow another Order of the Stick joke: "See what that 18 charisma is worth under the hood," eh?)
To be fair, I want to express my appreciation of the almost clothes-less Lyetha.
And good mention of the Order of the Stick.
"What are you waiting?"
"It´s a touch spell"
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| Erik Scott de Bie |
Posted - 13 Sep 2006 : 20:32:19
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Originally posted by Chosen of Moradin
Damn, too few pages for too many mysteries. How you tieflings achieve this? 
We're born to it, I guess.
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the dialogue between Walker and Gylther´yel was very good, too. Gylther´yel´s phrase "I have decided my student needs a lesson in inspiring terror" put me thinking in many things, because it could mean many things.
I hadn't thought of Gylther'yel as a master terrorist until just now. And ya know -- she is.
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druid (one of my prefered classes, by the way)
It is indeed a good one! And, as I think Gylther'yel shows, it can be pretty scary, eh?
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The conflict between Walker and his teacher was great!
Their relationship is pretty important too -- much like that of Greyt and Lyetha.
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And Unddreth gain a place in my list of "good dwarves that are not dwarves". 
Honorary dwarf, no?
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And better yet to me, was the knights in silver coming to the rescue! It was very good when Bars and Derst give some trouble to Meri´s men and after this flee invisible.
Ah, the invisible knights scene. One of my favorite to write. Considerably longer in draft, but I had to cut it down for length reasons.
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Chapter 10 - the ride in the woods was eerie The elemental ghost enervate me, and Gylther´yel rescue enervate me much more! A good battle scene, by the way. Again, Walker use a risk strategy to win an adversary, but that time he risk too much.
I think you mean "unnerved" -- "enervate" would be to sap away life and strength, like the enervation spell.
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Chapter 11 - Amazing! This entire chapter is amazing!
Glad you liked it! It's one of the "quiet" scenes -- i.e. no action -- but important as hell.
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The dialogue of Greyt and Meris, the feeling of Greyt when the mob acclaimed him, the whole scene with Lyetha... I´m out of words.
And yes, a woman know how to hurt a man, when she desires... touching, interesting, and intriguing scene.
Also one of my favorite scenes to write. A number of people have expessed appreciation over that scene -- and a number of fair ladies appreciation for a clothes-less Dharan Greyt. (To borrow another Order of the Stick joke: "See what that 18 charisma is worth under the hood," eh?)
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The only thing that I have to say is thank you, Erik, for this great tale.
Well, thank you for reading it, and I hope you continue to enjoy!
Cheers |
| Chosen of Moradin |
Posted - 13 Sep 2006 : 17:43:46
Wow! The most amazing sequence of chapters, until now! Congrats, Erik! It´s not even the middle of the book, and I´m here wanting that the tale of Walker never end!
Chapter 8 - the scenes of Walker and the ghost of Tarm put me, again, thinking of what is really happening here. Damn, too few pages for too many mysteries. How you tieflings achieve this?
the dialogue between Walker and Gylther´yel was very good, too. Gylther´yel´s phrase "I have decided my student needs a lesson in inspiring terror" put me thinking in many things, because it could mean many things.
The entire scene of Walker, Unddreth, Gylther´yel and the guards was one of the best of the book, until now. The inability of Walker to save the guards, the determination of Unddreth, the fury unleashed by the druid (one of my prefered classes, by the way), all add to make this scene grow before my eyes. The conflict between Walker and his teacher was great! And Unddreth gain a place in my list of "good dwarves that are not dwarves".
The meeting of Greyt and the knights was interesting. I´m thinking how many Greyt was drunken, and how many he was acting. The dialogue of Bars and Derst, as always, help to add more to the scene, and I jump in the chair when Arya give Greyt a little of what he deserves.
Chapter 9 - I could feel the difference in Walker attitude, when he goes to Bilgren. And, with this, I could see that something will go bad. With Arya presence, Walker stay less focused, less overconfident, and more mortal, more capable to fail. It was interesting when he saw all out of place, but don´t connect it with a trap. It was very good to see Walker lose a fight (he is not invencible, after all - and better: we know what happen when a ghostwalker survive a encounter with an enemie, and come back later...).
And better yet to me, was the knights in silver coming to the rescue! It was very good when Bars and Derst give some trouble to Meri´s men and after this flee invisible.
Chapter 10 - the ride in the woods was eerie The elemental ghost enervate me, and Gylther´yel rescue enervate me much more! A good battle scene, by the way. Again, Walker use a risk strategy to win an adversary, but that time he risk too much.
Chapter 11 - Amazing! This entire chapter is amazing! Greyt´s put the strings of his plan in motion, and it´s marvelous / and terrifying the way that he control the mob! Now I see some bardic influence in action! Bars and Derst dialogue was very good, too. And the presence of Amra help to develop better the scene.
The dialogue of Greyt and Meris, the feeling of Greyt when the mob acclaimed him, the whole scene with Lyetha... I´m out of words.
And yes, a woman know how to hurt a man, when she desires... touching, interesting, and intriguing scene.
The only thing that I have to say is thank you, Erik, for this great tale.
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| The Red Walker |
Posted - 30 Aug 2006 : 01:02:20
I as well greatly enjoyed the scene with the Ghostfire Elemental. Makes me wonder what else you have up your sleeve! (Besides the dagger of course)
What made the scene for me though was the what Arya said after sending Shadowfall away. "You told Shadowfall to run, not me! I have no intention of leaving you behind". A nice reinforcement of her character. I think she would have made a fine Marine! |
| Erik Scott de Bie |
Posted - 30 Dec 2005 : 16:26:14
Well, those are some awesome speculations. Some of them may be a little off, some may be just dead on.
I won't say which, of course.
I'm glad you're liking it!
Cheers |
| Dhomal |
Posted - 30 Dec 2005 : 07:13:47
Hello-
Well - I finished these chapters today - and actually would have had more time to continue - but its my intention to read just the chapters covered here in chunks - and then comment on them.
Erik - from the previous thread for chapters 4-7 - I mentioned The 'theft' of the amulet. It was funny - as of the reply you wrote - I already knew that it DID show up again - but did not want to include that in my comments. :) However - its not that much of a mention. And yes - she Should try and return it. :)
As for the Elemental encounter - I agree that it seems dis-jointed now - but you have mentioned that 'everything happens for a reason' - So I will wait and see.
I found it interesting when Greyt thought to himself that he knew what was protecting the forest. However - is it Walker's surrogate mother - the ghost druid - or something else.....
Also - I seem to recall (though it would take WAY too long to confirm) that the mention of the prior ring of Greyt's having a similarity to his seal - and the ring Walker wears also being of a similar symbol. Leads me to beleive that Walker Has Greyt's old ring.....
This of course - starts to confuse the issue. I had thought that Lyetha had mentioned losing loved ones previously - and somewhere in the back of my mind I had surmised/speculated that these people were Walker and his father. However - it would not explain Walker seemingly not remembering his mother - unless That is just a by-product of the Ghostwalker status - and since his father is 'around' - remembering him would naturally be easier.
That would be interesting. As I recall also - we learned that Greyt envied Walker - I looked for the mention - but could not find it... Anyway - it made me think at first that maybe Walker had a good voice or something else that a bard would be envious of. Now - I am thinking more that it was Lyetha - Walker's mother(?) and he envied her attention to him (Walker).
Also - the entraped elf mentiones that Walker is protected by a ghostly force - but can be killed - as we see by his close calls - and I speculate that it is his own father who will not talk to him who is protecting him.
As for Lyetha - and her appearance in the close of chapter 11. I suspect that she knows more about Greyt than he knows - and originally became involved with him because of his prior 'hero' status - because she needed someone like that. During the years with him - she became distant - seeing him act less and less heroic, if not eloquent and persuasive - and decided to bed him again to see if recent events have actually changed him. For her own reasons - she does not beleive his sincerity - and states as much to him - wounding him as we see.
I beleive that possibly she will not die. She may just leave, thus causing she and Arya not to speak again. But - I'm still leaning towards her being killed - possibly by Meris - maybe as a way of 'getting to' Greyt.
Oh - and the entraped elf also mentioned his vision of Meris coming to attack Greyt - but also Meris not defeating himself - could be a good way to escape the compulsion of the amulet - let Meris come and kill Greyt - but say that Meris "will not defeat me" - only because he does not try and stop Meris - and then - regains the amulet in some way to end his entrapment.
Lots to think about - and I like it! I am starting to have more time to read now - so things should go faster. It helps when I am more and more interested in the story. :)
Dhomal |
| Alaundo |
Posted - 20 Dec 2005 : 23:37:09
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Originally posted by Malarick
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Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie
Thoughts?
Greyt - Sean Connery or Pierce Brosnan - Every mans hero or Rufus Sewell
Walker - Antonio Banderas /
Arya - Miranda Otto / Clare Danes / Kate Beckinsale (lovely)
Gylther'yel - Tilda Swinton / Frances McDormand
Bars - Ray Winstone (too old?) /
Derst - Nathan Fillion / Brandon Routh
Meris - Christian Bale / Ryan Reynolds
Well met
Ahem. Remember this is for discussing chapters 8 thru 11. If ye wish to discuss other unrelated aspects of Ghostwalker, feel free to use the general thread for the novel |
| Malarick |
Posted - 20 Dec 2005 : 23:00:54
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Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie
Thoughts?
Greyt - Sean Connery or Pierce Brosnan - Every mans hero or Rufus Sewell
Walker - Antonio Banderas /
Arya - Miranda Otto / Clare Danes / Kate Beckinsale (lovely)
Gylther'yel - Tilda Swinton / Frances McDormand
Bars - Ray Winstone (too old?) /
Derst - Nathan Fillion / Brandon Routh
Meris - Christian Bale / Ryan Reynolds |
| Erik Scott de Bie |
Posted - 20 Dec 2005 : 16:35:52
Greyt is the one who has the particular actor in my mind. Walker. . . not sure.
Thoughts?
Cheers for Ghostwalker casting! |
| Malarick |
Posted - 20 Dec 2005 : 01:11:07
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Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie
I had a particular actor in mind when I wrote some of his scenes. . . Gold star to anyone who can guess.
Are we talking Greyt or Walker here?
I have to stop going for these ESdB challenges, and let someone else have a chance |
| Erik Scott de Bie |
Posted - 19 Dec 2005 : 18:25:34
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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
*nods* I like Gylther'yel even more myself, after reading these few chapters. She seems like a real person in how she has some contradictions. If she hates humans so much, what moved her to help Walker (who is apparently 1/4th elf, but that's still human)? She is strangely forgiving of him as well, which only adds to my interest in her.
1/4 elf is still, technically, human, in game terms. Walker's human like the seven sisters are human (except without the godly powers, you know ).
Glad you like Gylther'yel. I originally envisioned her as an Obi-wan Kenobi-type, but she blossomed into much, much more. Strangely forgiving, eh? Hmm. . . . . . . .
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Bars is another good character. It is rare--not impossible, but rare--to come across paladins and holy warriors who more or less interact with other people socially like, well, normal human beings. Bars is a paladin, and a good one, but that point comes across in his actions rather than his words. Same goes for his chivalry--it's there, but the reader isn't beaten over the head with it.
Yes! Totally what I was going for.
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As for Greyt, hehe. He's still VERY interesting, as always. I get a kick out of how he is kind of a "creepy uncle" character not unlike Dannoway in Promise of the Witch-King (who made the wonderful comment to his niece, "I do not worry about you being in Mariabronne's bed, or anyone else's." )
Someone else mentioned the PotWK, though I didn't hear the name of the character. Now I know who to watch for, when I finally get a chance to read it.
(RAS are, I guess, in kind of the same position on that count. I've got a signed copy of his latest book, and he's got a signed Ghostwalker. We'll see.)
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As some others pointed out, there seems to be more to him than just a typical wanton villain who doesn't care what other people think of him (as in the scene with Lyetha).
I agree. Up until that scene, I was writing him like an older Jaime Lannister, then he got so much more complex overnight (literally). Kinda like what happens in the first hundred pages of Storm of Swords, with just one reverie.
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Oh, and I liked the scene where Greyt wasn't wearing any clothes. Heehee...
 Indeed, my lady? He's very handsome, for an older chap.
I had a particular actor in mind when I wrote some of his scenes. . . Gold star to anyone who can guess.
Cheers |
| Rinonalyrna Fathomlin |
Posted - 17 Dec 2005 : 21:25:23
*nods* I like Gylther'yel even more myself, after reading these few chapters. She seems like a real person in how she has some contradictions. If she hates humans so much, what moved her to help Walker (who is apparently 1/4th elf, but that's still human)? She is strangely forgiving of him as well, which only adds to my interest in her.
Bars is another good character. It is rare--not impossible, but rare--to come across paladins and holy warriors who more or less interact with other people socially like, well, normal human beings. Bars is a paladin, and a good one, but that point comes across in his actions rather than his words. Same goes for his chivalry--it's there, but the reader isn't beaten over the head with it.
As for Greyt, hehe. He's still VERY interesting, as always. I get a kick out of how he is kind of a "creepy uncle" character not unlike Dannoway in Promise of the Witch-King (who made the wonderful comment to his niece, "I do not worry about you being in Mariabronne's bed, or anyone else's.") As some others pointed out, there seems to be more to him than just a typical wanton villain who doesn't care what other people think of him (as in the scene with Lyetha).
Oh, and I liked the scene where Greyt wasn't wearing any clothes. Heehee... |
| Erik Scott de Bie |
Posted - 09 Dec 2005 : 17:03:29
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Originally posted by Malarick
The scene with the ghostly elemental was a blast. I still wonder what bearing that had on the story, as if someone had summoned that to attack Walker, and I guess I will have to see as the story progresses. Nonetheless it was a great scene.
I'm glad you liked it! I was worried, because that scene seems a little tangential.
But no, it is not random. Everything in this book happens for a reason, after all. ;)
But, I realized I never actually explain it explicitly in the book, so I guess you'll just have to wonder (or ask when you finish it, so I don't spoil anything).
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Erik - I notice that throughout the narative of the book you refer to a lot of grays and shades of gray, whether it be in clothing or the Ethereal amongst other things. I wonder if this is a subconscious message about the nature of the characters in the book - that everyone has their own shades of gray (sometimes beneath the surface like the Ethereal) and not everyone is always as they seem.
It's very subtle, but yes, that was my intention. :)
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I also notice that in your dialogue you like to interrupt peoples flow of speech. Is this something you do yourself in life, or something a lot of people do to you?
I've never thought about this. Hmm. Well, I tend to speak in long, complex sentences, and people HAVE to interrupt my flow of speech to get things in edge-wise. And yes, I interrupt people all the (HEY LOOK! A DUCK!) time.
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I liked the little touch when Derst was invisible and Erik described how the dog backed up when it's nose hit something... it brought an amusing image to mind
That was one of my favorite scenes to write in the book. 'Twas a tad longer in first draft, but my editor and I decided it took up too much time/space.
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The ghostfire elemental was fantastic! Is this detailed in any D&D\FR sourcebook?
It's a creature I created myself by taking a fire elemental and adding the ghost template. Pretty simple.
I suppose another way is to add the Necromental template from Libris Mortis, but then you don't get the etherealness ability.
And it COULD be Gylther'yel in elemental form, as KEJR suggests. She is a high level druid, and her wildshape is, indeed, incorporeal. . . makes you wonder if she's some kind of ghost herself.
And cheers for wondering about alterior motives! In this book, no one's exactly what he or she seems. :)
Except, perhaps, Bilgren. ;)
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Speaking of Meris, what exactly is he up to? Obviously like father like son, but we more or less know that Greyt is playing the power and influence game, but Meris? Interesting twist at this stage of the story. I had him figured as a malicious oppourtunist, but I didn't see him having a plan of his own already set in motion.
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I'm also giving Meris a lot of thought. He's coming across quite sinister. In a sick way, I quite like him
Meris is interesting. He is, you're right, mostly reactionary, but things aren't always what they seem.
This is why "Wayfarer" makes a good supplement to the novel -- it's totally from Meris's perspective.
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Originally posted by Lord Rad
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Originally posted by KnightErrantJR
I loved the scene between Greyt and Lyetha. I almost felt sorry for Greyt, not for who he is, but that he as spent so many years pretending to be something else, being so cynical and fake, and thinking that his loving wife was taken in, only to be cut to the quick like that. No one can wound a man like a woman, especially in situations like this.
Ya right there, KEJR! That's women for ya. Some of the greatest leaders have been brought to their knees by a womans words I also felt touched by how Greyt felt at this point....but it was soon removed when I thought about the person he really is 
Greyt is a tragic hero, plain and simple. Someone who may have achieved his potential as a true, bright, shining example, but pissed it away with years of resentment and bitterness.
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I like how Greyt just wants to be seen as the 'Hero'. This is something that crops up through the novel. It seems he just wants to be adored by the people of the town!
Exactly! But WHY -- why, if he thinks so little of them (fools, rustics, barbarians, unrefined, etc., etc.)?
And on a final note, before I end this long post:
I wonder who the real villain is in this story. . .
Well, no -- that's not true. I don't wonder.
Cheers |
| Malarick |
Posted - 09 Dec 2005 : 11:46:31
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Originally posted by Lord Rad
I like the 'small town' feel and the ruler who can simply win over the mobs with well chosen words.
I like how Greyt just wants to be seen as the 'Hero'. This is something that crops up through the novel. It seems he just wants to be adored by the people of the town! |
| Lord Rad |
Posted - 09 Dec 2005 : 10:45:15
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Originally posted by KnightErrantJR
I loved the scene between Greyt and Lyetha. I almost felt sorry for Greyt, not for who he is, but that he as spent so many years pretending to be something else, being so cynical and fake, and thinking that his loving wife was taken in, only to be cut to the quick like that. No one can wound a man like a woman, especially in situations like this.
Ya right there, KEJR! That's women for ya. Some of the greatest leaders have been brought to their knees by a womans words I also felt touched by how Greyt felt at this point....but it was soon removed when I thought about the person he really is |
| Lord Rad |
Posted - 09 Dec 2005 : 10:42:50
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Originally posted by KnightErrantJR
I loved the rousing speech that Greyt gave, especially the flaming sword and all. Again, showing how dangerous a malevolent bard can actually be, though I loved Meris' dry comment about it being overplayed. Speaking of Meris, what exactly is he up to? Obviously like father like son, but we more or less know that Greyt is playing the power and influence game, but Meris? Interesting twist at this stage of the story. I had him figured as a malicious oppourtunist, but I didn't see him having a plan of his own already set in motion.
Yeah that was pretty good. I like the 'small town' feel and the ruler who can simply win over the mobs with well chosen words. A great scene.
I'm also giving Meris a lot of thought. He's coming across quite sinister. In a sick way, I quite like him |
| KnightErrantJR |
Posted - 09 Dec 2005 : 02:35:39
I'm kind of curious about the etherial elemental too. I could have been random. At first I had thought it was Gylther'yel in elemental form, showing Walker her displeasure. I am starting to wonder if she doesn't have some alterior motive besides just wanting a dispassionate killing machine that she raised to help guard her woods.
Talthaliel is interesting as well, if only by his rather short actual appearance, but importance none the less. Erik seems to like his elves, but he also seems to like keeping them on the periphery of the story as well, important but a little aloof . . . how very elven.
I loved the rousing speech that Greyt gave, especially the flaming sword and all. Again, showing how dangerous a malevolent bard can actually be, though I loved Meris' dry comment about it being overplayed. Speaking of Meris, what exactly is he up to? Obviously like father like son, but we more or less know that Greyt is playing the power and influence game, but Meris? Interesting twist at this stage of the story. I had him figured as a malicious oppourtunist, but I didn't see him having a plan of his own already set in motion.
I loved the scene between Greyt and Lyetha. I almost felt sorry for Greyt, not for who he is, but that he as spent so many years pretending to be something else, being so cynical and fake, and thinking that his loving wife was taken in, only to be cut to the quick like that. No one can wound a man like a woman, especially in situations like this.
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| Lord Rad |
Posted - 08 Dec 2005 : 22:11:53
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Originally posted by Malarick
The scene with the ghostly elemental was a blast. I still wonder what bearing that had on the story, as if someone had summoned that to attack Walker, and I guess I will have to see as the story progresses. Nonetheless it was a great scene.
Well I don't think the elemental was sent by anyway and it doesn't have a part within the overall story itself. I look at it that Walker spends a lot of time flitting between the ethereal and material plane, and on occasion, odds are that he will come across beings from that plane.
I thought it was a great part of the book, whether it's a deeper part of the story or a one-off encounter...I found it very fitting and loved it. I wanna know more about these creatures |
| Lord Rad |
Posted - 08 Dec 2005 : 22:09:19
Ooohh, I feel exposed and unsafe 
The journey through the woods was scary. Very quiet and surreal. With Walker learnt wounded against Arya's back on the horse... a very vulnerable and in a way, touching, scene.
I thought the scene with the ghostfire elemental was great. The lead up to it was very tense, how Walker knew something was wrong, and how he stepped into the Ethereal plane and noticed even the spirits of the dead weren't around! 
It was very well done how Arya didn't know what was happening and the scene was described from both the material plane and the ethereal plane. The ghostfire elemental was fantastic! Is this detailed in any D&D\FR sourcebook? |
| Lord Rad |
Posted - 08 Dec 2005 : 22:05:28
Again in chapter 9, i think, I felt that Walkers emotions really came out for the first time, when he felt a "heavy heart" and had worries. Before this, he really did seem quite inhuman and incapable of emotion like this. This really adds a new depth to the character.
I loved the scene where they head towards Bilgren's manor and Walker eyes the silk caravan with puzzlement, and then.....BLAM... the barrels and chests burst open and they're ambushed I could feel the tension with this... I knew something was wrong and whole scene actually felt so quiet and eerie before this occured.
The fight with Bilgren was great too. It was nice (in a way) to see him get the better of Walker, showing that he IS sometimes beaten.
I really enjoyed the hunt for the knights through the streets at night. It was well portrayed to effect the whole village and cause irritation to the citizens with being kept awake with the ruckus. I liked the little touch when Derst was invisible and Erik described how the dog backed up when it's nose hit something... it brought an amusing image to mind |
| Lord Rad |
Posted - 08 Dec 2005 : 21:59:57
I quite liked the scene with Gylther'yel and the transition to the ghostly fox. A very atmospheric scene. I love this kind of setting and feeling.
I thought the scene was very well done where Walker tries to warn Unddreth (great character, by the way!) of the wolves. Quite a chaotic and frustrating scene for him and difficult how he opposed Gylther'yel too.
This whole scene with the conflict between Gylther'yel and Walker was great and was probably the first time that Walker opened up and detached from being so calm and methodical. I liked how Gylther'yel just said "let the wolves do their work". |
| Malarick |
Posted - 03 Dec 2005 : 06:50:14
Chapter 9
I just want to say how wonderful I think the characters of Derst and Bars are. They are like a knightly double act. The part after they have helped Walker and Arya escape and are invisible was a small but nice piece to stick in the story. It does not alter the course of the novel, or have any major impact, but just fleshes those guys out that little bit more.
Chapter 10
The scene with the ghostly elemental was a blast. I still wonder what bearing that had on the story, as if someone had summoned that to attack Walker, and I guess I will have to see as the story progresses. Nonetheless it was a great scene.
Erik - I notice that throughout the narative of the book you refer to a lot of grays and shades of gray, whether it be in clothing or the Ethereal amongst other things. I wonder if this is a subconscious message about the nature of the characters in the book - that everyone has their own shades of gray (sometimes beneath the surface like the Ethereal) and not everyone is always as they seem.
I also notice that in your dialogue you like to interrupt peoples flow of speech. Is this something you do yourself in life, or something a lot of people do to you? |
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