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Alaundo Posted - 11 May 2008 : 10:19:05
Well met

This is a Book Club thread for Swordmage (Book 1 of Blades of the Moonsea), by Richard Baker. Please discuss the prologue and chapters 1 - 5 herein.
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Dennis Posted - 12 Jan 2011 : 17:33:05
Sort of interesting...It's in my to-read list. I can't usually stand books having elves as the main characters, but half-elves are fine, oft times.
Askanipsion Posted - 19 Aug 2008 : 15:45:29
quote:
Originally posted by Fillow

Indeed, Geran's teacher, Daried, should be an elf swordmage.
We just read about him in the very first pages of the story.
Do not read it if you want to learn about elven swordmages.

But you should read the novel just because it's a very good one !



I just read the first chapter since I get to go into work late due to the tropical storm on top of us.
Fillow Posted - 19 Aug 2008 : 05:21:10
Indeed, Geran's teacher, Daried, should be an elf swordmage.
We just read about him in the very first pages of the story.
Do not read it if you want to learn about elven swordmages.

But you should read the novel just because it's a very good one !
Askanipsion Posted - 18 Aug 2008 : 23:55:59
quote:
Originally posted by The Red Walker

quote:
Originally posted by Askanipsion

quote:
Originally posted by Fillow

If I understood the whole story, there is only one swordmage in this novel, and he is a human one.



Thanks! :)



A second is mentioned in the opening, Geran's teacher/master, but sees no other action.



Thanks for the info! :)

Hopefully elven ones will show up in forthcoming 4E novels.
The Red Walker Posted - 18 Aug 2008 : 14:44:56
quote:
Originally posted by Askanipsion

quote:
Originally posted by Fillow

If I understood the whole story, there is only one swordmage in this novel, and he is a human one.



Thanks! :)



A second is mentioned in the opening, Geran's teacher/master, but sees no other action.
Askanipsion Posted - 18 Aug 2008 : 04:08:40
quote:
Originally posted by Fillow

If I understood the whole story, there is only one swordmage in this novel, and he is a human one.



Thanks! :)
Fillow Posted - 17 Aug 2008 : 10:59:05
If I understood the whole story, there is only one swordmage in this novel, and he is a human one.
Askanipsion Posted - 17 Aug 2008 : 09:00:54
Are there any elven swordmages in this novel?
Rinonalyrna Fathomlin Posted - 27 Jun 2008 : 22:41:33
You're welcome, as always!
Fillow Posted - 27 Jun 2008 : 20:40:27
Thanks a lot lovely Rinonalyrna.
I also thought that it would stay unsaid.
Rinonalyrna Fathomlin Posted - 25 Jun 2008 : 14:18:54
quote:
Originally posted by Fillow

I write again my preceding question :
- As far as I know, the last coronal to be named before the Spellplague was Ilsevele Miritar, in the year 1377DR
Does she always hold the title in the year 1477DR?
Is this post-spellplague lore already known?



I follow the preview material for the FR pretty closely, and as far as I know there's no answer for you yet. You could ask Rich Baker, but he might choose not to answer (it'd be a "spoiler" for the new setting).
Fillow Posted - 24 Jun 2008 : 19:31:09
quote:
Originally posted by The Red Walker


It is a wine. Sembia is a well known region for its wines.


Thanks for this piece of info Red Walker.

I write again my preceding question :
- As far as I know, the last coronal to be named before the Spellplague was Ilsevele Miritar, in the year 1377DR
Does she always hold the title in the year 1477DR?
Is this post-spellplague lore already known?
The Red Walker Posted - 24 Jun 2008 : 04:51:53
quote:
Originally posted by Fillow

Thanks for the grammar help Karzak.

About the Sembian red, it has no importance indeed.


It is a wine. Sembia is a well known region for its wines.
Brian R. James Posted - 23 Jun 2008 : 18:34:13
It's set along the northern shore of the Moonsea Ergdusch, primarily in and around the city of Hulburg.
Ergdusch Posted - 23 Jun 2008 : 15:28:10
Can anyone tell me in which area of the Realms this novel is set in? Cormyr perhaps?

Thanks in advance, Ergdusch
Fillow Posted - 16 Jun 2008 : 12:31:52
quote:
Originally posted by scererar

I also like the Halfling character. Can't tell what his class is yet, but we know he is a Ghostwise Halfling. He does not appear to be a swamp/ river dwelling creature that D&D 4E is spouting.




You should have found it since you wrote this post Scererar but I believe he's a rogue ( home-made spoiler : select the blank to enlight). I found it later in the novel.
He's able to find and defuse traps.
Fillow Posted - 11 Jun 2008 : 13:15:18
Thanks for the grammar help Karzak.

About the Sembian red, it has no importance indeed. Just a piece of lore I wanted to enlight.

And what about :
As far as I know, the last coronal to be named before the Spellplague was Ilsevele Miritar, in the year 1377DR
Does she always hold the title in the year 1477DR ?
We read about her in the beginnig of the novel. Maybe also later within the novel... ?
Karzak Posted - 11 Jun 2008 : 12:48:32
Most people say "In 2008" or whatever, though "In the year ____" is pretty common too when referring to a historical event.

There're apparently two types of red ale, but since there's no explicit information, I'd assume that "___ red" most likely refers to wine. I could be wrong, but I'm frankly baffled that it would matter one way or another: ask Richard Baker. If it's ale, it's ale, and I for one am not going to take it personally. If not, then it's not.
Fillow Posted - 11 Jun 2008 : 04:18:18
quote:
Originally posted by Karzak


We don't normally say "In the year 2008 AD"/"In the year 2008 CE" because that sounds unnatural and bizarre, so I don't see why "In the year 1477 DR" would be any less awkward.


Right. Thanks Karzak.
But should I say "in 2008,..." or "in the year 2008,..." ?

quote:
Originally posted by Karzak

quote:
Originally posted by scererar


I took sembian red to be an ale of some sort


Why? Ale isn't usually red.



In France, and anywhere else I think.. I hope for your pleasure !, we indeed have red beer.
As we have blond, brown ("brune"), amber brown also.
Beer is an art !
Arkhaedun Posted - 11 Jun 2008 : 03:51:40
Let's back off of the comments targeting one another's personal traits, and get back on topic. There is no reason for this to get heated, so let's all back off take some time to actually ponder the topic of the thread.

Thanks.
Karzak Posted - 11 Jun 2008 : 03:21:41
quote:
Originally posted by scererar

Implying someone is incorrect without providing an alternative is... rude my friend.


You offend really easily, don't you. Gosh, dealing with things on a day-to-day basis - never mind the Internet - must be a regular trial.
Karzak Posted - 11 Jun 2008 : 02:29:48
quote:
Originally posted by Fillow

one more grammar question : should I say "in 1477 DR" or "in the year 1477 DR" or in another way ?


We don't normally say "In the year 2008 AD"/"In the year 2008 CE" because that sounds unnatural and bizarre, so I don't see why "In the year 1477 DR" would be any less awkward.

quote:
Originally posted by scererar


I took sembian red to be an ale of some sort


Why? Ale isn't usually red.
Fillow Posted - 09 Jun 2008 : 20:38:51
Always me with little question.

As far as I know, the last coronal to be named before the Spellplague was Ilsevele Miritar, in the year 1377DR
Does she always hold the title in the year 1477DR ?

I'm only reading the chapter 4. So maybe she's quoted later in the novel...

one more grammar question : should I say "in 1477 DR" or "in the year 1477 DR" or in another way ?

one more detail : feel free to say to me if I'm out of topic with my questions or if they're too annoying...

Thanks a lot for your help !
Fillow Posted - 09 Jun 2008 : 04:16:03
Thanks a lot Scererar, and thanks to your lovely wife too.
You really helped me.
scererar Posted - 08 Jun 2008 : 17:51:26
http://archives.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/sailing/03/20/lloyds.sex/

the link above is a CNN article about ships being refered to as she
scererar Posted - 08 Jun 2008 : 17:45:18
quote:
Originally posted by Fillow

Thanks a lot scererar. That's what I thought too.
I've so many other question my dear fellow scribes.

Here are few of them :
- I understood that the prologue takes place in Myth Drannor. So, after Geran's destructive impulse, we read about two more Velar Guards who wait nearby the duel place (p.5). What are these guards ?
I looked for the "Velar" term in the FR books but I only found it was the name of the founder of Velarsdale ! (VGtD, p.129). I don't think they both deals with the same people.

- a grammar question : in English, when you speak about a boat, you say "she" (p. 7). Isn't it ? I read that in the first lines of the chapter one. I believe I've heard that when I was at school but I'm not sure about it.

- In a tavern , is a Sembian red a type of red wine ? p.10

- What is a Shieldsworn ? p.13

I thank you so very much for helping me.



Not sure if velar guards existed pre-4E. Additionally, Myth Drannor was not reclaimed until the end of 3E. So maybe they are a newer creation. I did however, find a reference in Cormanthyr p.38 that in the year of the vanished foe. A human named Velar was instrumental in a battle that routed Orc invaders. the area of the battle was later named Velarsdale.

My wife says "because a ship was always a sailors 1st woman" and usually referred to in the female tense. not sure if I agree totally, but I bet she is on track. I am glad I don't own a boat

I took sembian red to be an ale of some sort

Shieldsworn is the collective name/title of the Hulmarch's(sp?) soldiers/guards.

Fillow Posted - 08 Jun 2008 : 15:24:12
Thanks a lot scererar. That's what I thought too.
I've so many other question my dear fellow scribes.

Here are few of them :
- I understood that the prologue takes place in Myth Drannor. So, after Geran's destructive impulse, we read about two more Velar Guards who wait nearby the duel place (p.5). What are these guards ?
I looked for the "Velar" term in the FR books but I only found it was the name of the founder of Velarsdale ! (VGtD, p.129). I don't think they both deals with the same people.

- a grammar question : in English, when you speak about a boat, you say "she" (p. 7). Isn't it ? I read that in the first lines of the chapter one. I believe I've heard that when I was at school but I'm not sure about it.

- In a tavern , is a Sembian red a type of red wine ? p.10

- What is a Shieldsworn ? p.13

I thank you so very much for helping me.
scererar Posted - 07 Jun 2008 : 02:50:33
quote:
Originally posted by Fillow

I've just begun this marvelous novel this morning -my first oen in English !

Does the arcane word "Seiroch", that Geran uses in the duel mean something ? I searched in elven glossary but found nothing.




I don't believe so. I took it as the author's attempt to show magic spells being cast in a more realistic manner, similar to the Dragonlance novels and Raistlin.

I have noticed that the 4E spell process is a lot faster, a gesture here and couple of words there. nothing long and drwn out. Maybe "rituals" will show more of this side of casting.
Fillow Posted - 05 Jun 2008 : 12:47:10
I've just begun this marvelous novel this morning -my first oen in English !

Does the arcane word "Seiroch", that Geran uses in the duel mean something ? I searched in elven glossary but found nothing.
The Red Walker Posted - 26 May 2008 : 17:53:39
I like the start very much, for whatever reason I am in a state of mind where I really enjoy seeing people get there just desserts. Green cutting off the the hand of his elf opponent was awesome!
It is always good to see a smug xenophobic elf cut to size. It's only to bad that in his arrogance he will blame it on the baseness of the human and not look to himself for blame.

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