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Chyron Posted - 07 Jun 2006 : 08:44:42

I pose this question here for those who might be better versed in the lore of the final days of 2nd edition material and print runs.

I recently have decided to try and buy some of the AD&D source material that I never played in years past….recent forum discussions by the sages here have peaked my interest in particular to read some of the Planescape material.

However after perusing items on auction sites, I have noticed that Planescape items are fetching prices upwards of $50-$150US.

My question is why?

I have seen old AD&D 1st ed stuff (in very good condition) and FR material for far less…even old AD&D monochrome modules are not so inflated.

Why is this series so ‘collectable’ compared to the realms or old D&D? Was Planescape printed on gold-leaf or what? Were print runs really limited?
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scererar Posted - 22 Jun 2006 : 03:53:20
I will still refer anyone who is a realms/ d&d collector, to the follow site; http://www.acaeum.com/index.html

Simply one of the best I have seen and even has a boards section with folks who are serious about their collecting

truly, check this out before buying off of ebay and such, might save you in the end.
GothicDan Posted - 21 Jun 2006 : 21:31:15
I had Planes of Chaos and Law as they were published, but it took me forever to hunt down Planes of Conflict (which may be my favorite).

As for the prices?

I reckon it's because ZOMG PLANESCAPE ROX! *Unabashed fanboyage*
Zeboaster of Ordulin Posted - 21 Jun 2006 : 14:52:13
quote:
Originally posted by Chyron
Why is this series so ‘collectable’ compared to the realms or old D&D? Was Planescape printed on gold-leaf or what? Were print runs really limited?




The Planes of Chaos, Planes of Conflict, Planes of Law boxes retailed for something like $40 each back in the day, IIRC, which was the most expensive thing that TSR had released for something that wasn't collectible. So, to see them go for $60-$80 isn't a complete shock given the quality of the products. I have read them, long long ago, but I don't own them, and they are pretty damn good. I'm not willing to pay the $60 per each set, and I may just get them from Paizo for $4 PDFs, and go from there. Part of the reason that they are so expensive is because of the sweet poster maps and inserts that came in each box, as well as the 128 page booklets. They did really well on those things, probably the best on any boxed set that they had ever released.

warlockco Posted - 08 Jun 2006 : 21:40:46
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

FR sourcebooks -- all editions -- are also TSR/WotC products that I've managed to purchase as they were each individually released. That is, except for Volo's Guide to Baldur's Gate II and Empires of the Shining Sea. Kuje helped me tracked down a copy of the first (at nobleknight.com) early last year where I purchased it at $12.50US (and looking at it now, I see it's still pretty low -- $14.95US).

Empires of the Shining Sea was really difficult to find in print -- both here and online -- even after it was initially released. I managed to track down a copy though, from a second-hand store that was offering the "never opened" boxed set complete for just $15.00AUS.




Yep can get really lucky with some items, and get taken to the cleaners for others.
scererar Posted - 08 Jun 2006 : 02:21:30
I would advise just trying to get PDF copies of previous material, unless you are an avid collector, like a few of here. Check out this site, it is a wonderful fonte of knowledge for collecting D&D stuff as a whole. Even has it's own message boards on collecting. http://www.acaeum.com/index.html
The Sage Posted - 08 Jun 2006 : 00:55:02
FR sourcebooks -- all editions -- are also TSR/WotC products that I've managed to purchase as they were each individually released. That is, except for Volo's Guide to Baldur's Gate II and Empires of the Shining Sea. Kuje helped me tracked down a copy of the first (at nobleknight.com) early last year where I purchased it at $12.50US (and looking at it now, I see it's still pretty low -- $14.95US).

Empires of the Shining Sea was really difficult to find in print -- both here and online -- even after it was initially released. I managed to track down a copy though, from a second-hand store that was offering the "never opened" boxed set complete for just $15.00AUS.
The Sage Posted - 08 Jun 2006 : 00:48:47
quote:
Originally posted by Kuje

I think it's because they are getting harder and harder to find..... I know a I paid into the high double digits for my Planescape boxed sets but the most I ever paid for a sourcebook was like 100 for Seven Sisters.
I managed to purchase all the PS accessories as they were released -- except Planes of Conflict -- so I've never really had to track copies down after the initial print run.

However, Planes of Conflict was difficult to find here and online in printed format. I ended up paying $70AUS for it about five years ago.

quote:
But I've hardly ever seen the Planescape box sets, at least the Plane of ones, never go lower then 50 on nobleknight.com. I don't watch the auction sites though and I'm not sure what they go for on ebay, for example.
Strangely, both Planes of Law and the Hellbound boxed set are STILL available at my local gaming store -- both sitting at the $35AUS mark. I don't think the store owner realises how rare these products are...
Alaundo Posted - 07 Jun 2006 : 22:49:19
quote:
Originally posted by Dargoth

The most expensive FR items Ive ever seen are mint condition H modules they where going at around 150 USD back in 2000



Well met

Indeed, the famed "H" series of Bloodstone modules continued to elude me for some time. Despite my long years of FR collecting, it was only a couple of years back that I managed to located an excellent copy of H1 with uncut cards for £65 (which is quite a bargain). Sometimes ye just have to bite the bullet
Mace Hammerhand Posted - 07 Jun 2006 : 19:29:46
The most I paid for a module was € 70 for Temple of Elemental Evil...
Kuje Posted - 07 Jun 2006 : 18:02:14
I think it's because they are getting harder and harder to find..... I know a I paid into the high double digits for my Planescape boxed sets but the most I ever paid for a sourcebook was like 100 for Seven Sisters.

But I've hardly ever seen the Planescape box sets, at least the Plane of ones, never go lower then 50 on nobleknight.com. I don't watch the auction sites though and I'm not sure what they go for on ebay, for example.
Mace Hammerhand Posted - 07 Jun 2006 : 13:06:58
If the print items are too expensive buy the pdfs and print 'em out, might be cheaper, plus you could just print out what you really need.

Then again, why do I suggest such a thing since I myself prefer hardcopies/originals.
NiTessine Posted - 07 Jun 2006 : 10:47:40
I'm not aware of Planescape print runs being any smaller than any other print runs of that time... However, the production values were pretty high, and Planescape stuff is nearly universally really, really good. Those products include some of the best, most innovative and most original stuff ever released for any edition of D&D, such as Uncaged: Faces of Sigil, which is to NPC sourcebooks what the 3E Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting is to campaign setting books.
Dargoth Posted - 07 Jun 2006 : 10:40:44
It depends on how many copies are avaliable or where printed the H series seem to have had a very low production run unlike say Tomb of Horrors. The one of the Rarest modules is one from the B series which was published by TSR and sent out to stores but the stock was recalled when they found "Suggestive content" in it.

The suggestive content apparently wasnt that bad but this was back when the book burning Nazi's (More commonly known as American Christian fundermentalists) and that bitch Pullman where trying to get D&D banned as Satanic
Chyron Posted - 07 Jun 2006 : 10:00:45
Yap, that is true...particularly H1 if it has the uncut unit sheets. But those mods are mid 1980s. (I think I saw one for $200 recently on Ebay)

But the Planescape stuff was not that long ago (mid 90s) and seem to have inflated at a rate that is not parallel with other 2nd ed stuff from that era.
Dargoth Posted - 07 Jun 2006 : 08:52:27
The most expensive FR items Ive ever seen are mint condition H modules they where going at around 150 USD back in 2000

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