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| The Sage |
Posted - 03 Jul 2004 : 08:44:45
It appears as though Complete Adventurer will be the next tome to be published in the 'Complete' series. Here's the first reference that was uncovered. It has been suggested that it will be for the Rogue and Bard classes.
The details are located on the page for the new player reward cards for RPGA.
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| Jindael |
Posted - 23 Jun 2005 : 12:58:01
I enjoyed the Complete Adventurer in the same way that I enjoy all the core material. I cherry pick what’s good for me and my game. The new classes, a few PrC’s, a couple of feats, etc.
Overall, however, it wasn't the greatest book. But I tend to have that feeling about most of the generic, non-world specific stuff. |
| warlockco |
Posted - 23 Jun 2005 : 03:40:26
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Originally posted by SiriusBlack
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
The review makes me glad I got it for under $20 on eBay. 
The review makes me not desire it even if I found a sale.
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I've only flipped thru it, so I've not really formed my own opinion of it.
Be sure to share your thoughts once you sit down and read the tome.
Hmm, overall I liked the Complete series for the most part, but then again, I got them for revised material mostly. |
| SiriusBlack |
Posted - 22 Jun 2005 : 13:03:43
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
The review makes me glad I got it for under $20 on eBay.
The review makes me not desire it even if I found a sale.
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I've only flipped thru it, so I've not really formed my own opinion of it.
Be sure to share your thoughts once you sit down and read the tome. |
| The Sage |
Posted - 22 Jun 2005 : 01:33:35
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by Dargoth
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by Dargoth
As for its FR compatability you'lll have to wait for my "Complete Faerun" review
I haven't heard about this. What is it? Something you're composing for the main site? It sounds rather interesting...
Im going to do an article covering all 4 of the Complete books which will detail those elements in the Complete books that can be easily converted to the FR and where you'd find them.
That does sound useful indeed  . I can't wait for it's completion... Although, since I'm unlikely to pick up Complete Adventurer, my focus will be strictly on the contents from the other three tomes.
Although I said I wouldn't, I ended up buying Complete Adventurer, but only because I was curious and then only because my local gaming store was having a sale. So, I managed to pick this up for just under half-price.
Having said that, and having read through the majority of the tome, I feel that the review for it, that SB just linked to, hits pretty close to the mark of how I feel about it. I mean, some of the PrCs are nice, and obviously well-constructed, but others felt like they were just put into the tome to round out the number of classes included in the tome.
Perhaps some of the PrCs should have been dropped in favor of more material on how to use specific classes in a complete adventuring-oriented role.
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| Wooly Rupert |
Posted - 21 Jun 2005 : 17:39:40
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Originally posted by SiriusBlack
RPGnet has a not so positive review up for this product.
The review makes me glad I got it for under $20 on eBay.
I've only flipped thru it, so I've not really formed my own opinion of it. |
| SiriusBlack |
Posted - 21 Jun 2005 : 11:40:07
RPGnet has a not so positive review up for this product. |
| SiriusBlack |
Posted - 21 Jan 2005 : 14:39:16
A web enhancement is available now for this tome. |
| The Sage |
Posted - 16 Jan 2005 : 14:37:34
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Originally posted by Dargoth
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by Dargoth
As for its FR compatability you'lll have to wait for my "Complete Faerun" review
I haven't heard about this. What is it? Something you're composing for the main site? It sounds rather interesting...
Im going to do an article covering all 4 of the Complete books which will detail those elements in the Complete books that can be easily converted to the FR and where you'd find them.
That does sound useful indeed . I can't wait for it's completion... Although, since I'm unlikely to pick up Complete Adventurer, my focus will be strictly on the contents from the other three tomes.
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| Alaundo |
Posted - 16 Jan 2005 : 13:08:47
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Originally posted by Dargoth
Im going to do an article covering all 4 of the Complete books which will detail those elements in the Complete books that can be easily converted to the FR and where you'd find them.
Well met
...and I certainly hope this tome will be brought to Candlekeep forthwith upon completion, Dargoth  It sounds very useful indeed. |
| Dargoth |
Posted - 16 Jan 2005 : 11:55:32
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by Dargoth
As for its FR compatability you'lll have to wait for my "Complete Faerun" review
I haven't heard about this. What is it? Something you're composing for the main site? It sounds rather interesting...
Im going to do an article covering all 4 of the Complete books which will detail those elements in the Complete books that can be easily converted to the FR and where you'd find them.
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| The Sage |
Posted - 16 Jan 2005 : 11:04:47
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Originally posted by Dargoth
As for its FR compatability you'lll have to wait for my "Complete Faerun" review
I haven't heard about this. What is it? Something you're composing for the main site? It sounds rather interesting...
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| Dargoth |
Posted - 16 Jan 2005 : 09:27:54
Its the ussual Complete Mixed bag theres a few useful things like the Scout class basicly a Non Spell casting ranger (This would suit anyone stating Drizzt)
As for its FR compatability you'lll have to wait for my "Complete Faerun" review |
| The Sage |
Posted - 16 Jan 2005 : 08:54:33
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Originally posted by Dargoth
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Originally posted by Lady Kazandra
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Originally posted by Dargoth
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Originally posted by Lady Kazandra
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Originally posted by SiriusBlack
The art gallery for this product is now available.
Have any of these images served to generate in any scribe here, more interest in this tome than they had previously?
My Brother plays the party Thief so he gets to buy this book 
Ah.
So you'll likely have the opportunity to post some thoughts on the general "feel" of the tome, once you've had a chance to review it . . . Yes?
One of my players bought it to our gam today
Have you had a chance to look through it yet? What did you think?
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| Arivia |
Posted - 16 Jan 2005 : 03:02:50
If anyone's using the organization generation system from chapter 6 and any of the classes from any of the Complete books or the XPH, staple these lines onto the ends of tables 6-6 and 6-9:
Table 6-6: Highest Level Members(PC Classes)
Ninja 1d4+community modifier
Scout 1d6+community modifier
Spellblade 1d4+community modifier
Favored Soul 1d6+community modifier
Shugenja 1d4+community modifier
Spirit Shaman 1d4+community modifier
Warlock 1d3+community modifier
Warmage 1d4+community modifier
Wu Jen 1d3+community modifier
Hexblade 1d3+community modifier
Samurai 1d4+community modifier
Swashbuckler 1d6+community modifier
Psion 1d4+community modifier
Psychic Warrior 1d6+community modifier
Soulknife 1d4+community modifier
Wilder 1d4+community modifier
Table 6-9: Community Modifiers
*A thorp or hamlet has a 5% chance to add +10 to the modifier of a ranger, druid, scout, spirit shaman or wilder level. |
| Dargoth |
Posted - 15 Jan 2005 : 12:50:57
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Originally posted by Lady Kazandra
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Originally posted by Dargoth
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Originally posted by Lady Kazandra
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Originally posted by SiriusBlack
The art gallery for this product is now available.
Have any of these images served to generate in any scribe here, more interest in this tome than they had previously?
My Brother plays the party Thief so he gets to buy this book
Ah.
So you'll likely have the opportunity to post some thoughts on the general "feel" of the tome, once you've had a chance to review it . . . Yes?
One of my players bought it to our gam today |
| Arivia |
Posted - 15 Jan 2005 : 08:43:32
I picked it up on Monday(the first day my FLGS could release it).
It hasn't left my side since-I've been using it ever since.
It's the first one of the Complete books that I've really liked.
I don't think it's because of the subject matter-if it was, I should have greatly preferred Complete Arcane.
I think it's because it fits together excellently-to a degree that none of the previous Complete books have.
As someone already mentioned in this thread, one of the big problems with 3.5 is the book referencing-go here for blah, go there for bleh-I'm finding Complete Adventurer to be nearly completely antithetical to that. The large number of reprints(gathered from Song and Silence, Masters of the Wild, the Arms and Equipment Guide, the Epic Level Handbook, and a few other places) helps to stave this off. Complete Adventurer doesn't tell you to reference other sources-but other books will likely lead to it.
The prestige classes that necessitate flavor have it, the ones that don't, don't. |
| Wooly Rupert |
Posted - 14 Jan 2005 : 22:31:15
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Originally posted by warlockco
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
But that can't be his signature, since he signs with a C with a long tail off of it (the lower end extends out, up a bit, and then back down).
Hmmm, then I don't think I ever noticed the gem then.
Or is it a reference to him using a red gem in preference to any other type?
Took a look back at something that he did, noticed on the cover for Forgotten Realms Adventures, there are 4 of them.
Something like 90% to 95% of his artwork features, somewhere in the pic, a rounded red gemstone.
A couple of his other tendencies -- for well-endowed women, wearing very little -- were poked fun at in The Wyvern's Spur, which he did the cover art for! |
| warlockco |
Posted - 14 Jan 2005 : 12:35:37
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
But that can't be his signature, since he signs with a C with a long tail off of it (the lower end extends out, up a bit, and then back down).
Hmmm, then I don't think I ever noticed the gem then.
Or is it a reference to him using a red gem in preference to any other type?
Took a look back at something that he did, noticed on the cover for Forgotten Realms Adventures, there are 4 of them. |
| Wooly Rupert |
Posted - 13 Jan 2005 : 23:14:26
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Originally posted by warlockco
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Originally posted by Lady Kazandra
Yeah, I always noticed that little quirk about Caldwell's artwork as well. I liked it.
Larry Elmore was always a favorite, mainly because of the work he did for the early DL setting. My respect for his work has only increased since his imagery for the Sovereign Stone setting published by Sovereign Press. Easley's work was always something grand and mystical. When you looked at it, you felt like you were truly experience what life would be like in the images he'd drawn.
I miss them all.  Although, some of the artists for 3e have filled those shoes rather expertly, Wayne Reynolds and Sam Wood in particular.
For the new artists, I like Sam Wood, Todd Lockwood (did notice he did do some 2E artwork), and Mathew Wilson (loved alot of his stuff from Magic).
The thing that Caldwell put into all his art was just his signature, kinda like how Elmore has his last name distinctively placed on most of his art.
But that can't be his signature, since he signs with a C with a long tail off of it (the lower end extends out, up a bit, and then back down). |
| warlockco |
Posted - 13 Jan 2005 : 19:32:30
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Originally posted by Lady Kazandra
Yeah, I always noticed that little quirk about Caldwell's artwork as well. I liked it.
Larry Elmore was always a favorite, mainly because of the work he did for the early DL setting. My respect for his work has only increased since his imagery for the Sovereign Stone setting published by Sovereign Press. Easley's work was always something grand and mystical. When you looked at it, you felt like you were truly experience what life would be like in the images he'd drawn.
I miss them all. Although, some of the artists for 3e have filled those shoes rather expertly, Wayne Reynolds and Sam Wood in particular.
For the new artists, I like Sam Wood, Todd Lockwood (did notice he did do some 2E artwork), and Mathew Wilson (loved alot of his stuff from Magic).
The thing that Caldwell put into all his art was just his signature, kinda like how Elmore has his last name distinctively placed on most of his art. |
| Lady Kazandra |
Posted - 13 Jan 2005 : 13:27:33
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Lady Kazandra
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Originally posted by SiriusBlack
The art gallery for this product is now available.
Have any of these images served to generate in any scribe here, more interest in this tome than they had previously?
I didn't even look... I almost never look at the art previews, because I'm not interested in the artwork. It generally adds little for me, and I'm one who was spoiled by the wonderful artwork of Larry Elmore, and the excellent artwork of Jeff Easley and Clyde Caldwell (even if he does have to put that round red gem in every pic). I think it'd be great if WotC was to get those guys back for art...
Yeah, I always noticed that little quirk about Caldwell's artwork as well. I liked it.
Larry Elmore was always a favorite, mainly because of the work he did for the early DL setting. My respect for his work has only increased since his imagery for the Sovereign Stone setting published by Sovereign Press. Easley's work was always something grand and mystical. When you looked at it, you felt like you were truly experience what life would be like in the images he'd drawn.
I miss them all. Although, some of the artists for 3e have filled those shoes rather expertly, Wayne Reynolds and Sam Wood in particular.
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| Wooly Rupert |
Posted - 13 Jan 2005 : 11:34:51
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Originally posted by Lady Kazandra
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Originally posted by SiriusBlack
The art gallery for this product is now available.
Have any of these images served to generate in any scribe here, more interest in this tome than they had previously?
I didn't even look... I almost never look at the art previews, because I'm not interested in the artwork. It generally adds little for me, and I'm one who was spoiled by the wonderful artwork of Larry Elmore, and the excellent artwork of Jeff Easley and Clyde Caldwell (even if he does have to put that round red gem in every pic). I think it'd be great if WotC was to get those guys back for art... |
| Dargoth |
Posted - 13 Jan 2005 : 07:00:05
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Originally posted by SiriusBlack
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Originally posted by Dargoth
ie it will be similar to the article I did for the Draconomicon
You do sleep, yes?
No Ive embraced Lichdom  |
| SiriusBlack |
Posted - 13 Jan 2005 : 06:52:01
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Originally posted by Lady Kazandra
Have any of these images served to generate in any scribe here, more interest in this tome than they had previously?
No, but that's no fault of the art. I think it looks fine overall from what I examined. |
| SiriusBlack |
Posted - 13 Jan 2005 : 06:50:40
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Originally posted by Dargoth
ie it will be similar to the article I did for the Draconomicon
You do sleep, yes? |
| Dargoth |
Posted - 13 Jan 2005 : 06:19:33
Actually I started a massive article for Candlekeep today Im going to go through Conmplete Warrior/Arcane/Divine/Adventurer and highlight the stuff thats useful for the FR and where I think you can use it. Im then going to do the same for the Races of X books when they finish that line
ie it will be similar to the article I did for the Draconomicon |
| Lady Kazandra |
Posted - 13 Jan 2005 : 06:14:28
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Originally posted by Dargoth
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Originally posted by Lady Kazandra
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Originally posted by SiriusBlack
The art gallery for this product is now available.
Have any of these images served to generate in any scribe here, more interest in this tome than they had previously?
My Brother plays the party Thief so he gets to buy this book
Ah.
So you'll likely have the opportunity to post some thoughts on the general "feel" of the tome, once you've had a chance to review it . . . Yes?
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| Dargoth |
Posted - 13 Jan 2005 : 06:04:18
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Originally posted by Lady Kazandra
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Originally posted by SiriusBlack
The art gallery for this product is now available.
Have any of these images served to generate in any scribe here, more interest in this tome than they had previously?
My Brother plays the party Thief so he gets to buy this book |
| Lady Kazandra |
Posted - 13 Jan 2005 : 06:02:14
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Originally posted by SiriusBlack
The art gallery for this product is now available.
Have any of these images served to generate in any scribe here, more interest in this tome than they had previously?
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| Mareka |
Posted - 12 Jan 2005 : 22:56:20
The artwork looks a lot nicer in this one than the last couple of books. I really like David Hudnut's stuff. |
