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Screensize: 640 x 480 800 x 600 1024 x 768 1280 x 1024 UserName: Password: Format Mode: Basic  Help  Prompt  Format: Font Andale Mono Arial Arial Black Book Antiqua Century Gothic Comic Sans MS Courier New Georgia Impact Lucida Console Script MT Bold Stencil Tahoma Times New Roman Trebuchet MS Verdana   Size 1 2 3 4 5 6   Color Black Red Yellow Pink Green Orange Purple Blue Beige Brown Teal Navy Maroon LimeGreen Message: * HTML is OFF * Forum Code is ON Smilies [quote][i]Originally posted by Victor_ograygor[/i] [br]I just got this mail, and dont know if this is true.- Oficial ore not - plz help me with this In the begining Ao created the universe, and after a period of timeless nothingness, the twin goddeses Shar & Selune coalesced from the shadowy mists. They birthed Chauntea, goddess of life. Chauntea was Firstborn. When Chauntea begged for warmth to nurture life, Selune and Shar disagreed over whether to grant their daughter's request. This first conflict spawned the God of War (a fragment of whom was later known as Tempus in Talfiric pantheon and as Targus in his Netherese aspect). Tempus/Targus was Secondborn. The former order and peaceful coexistence of Realmspace was shattered by this discord--spawning War's little brother, Chaos. Valigan is an aspect of the god of Chaos. Valigan was Thirdborn. In time this conflict and resulting chaos led to the birth of Disease (Talona), Murder (Jergal) and Death (an unnamed god, later slain by Jergal in the first act of Tyranny) among other (unnamed) fell forces. Although the creation myth does not name Chaos specifically, I believe that Chaos is a good candidate for one of those other fell gods. In fact it must be, because currently Talos holds the portfolio of Chaos and Faiths & Pantheons mentions Talos being spawned in the War of Light & Darkness between Shar & Selune at the begining of Time. Very probably Valigan is the Jhaamdathan fragment of the original god of Chaos--along with Talos (who was part of the Talfiric Pantheon), Kozah (who was part of the Netherese Pantheon) and with Bhaelros (the fragment of Chaos worshipped in the Coramshite pantheon) rounding out the bunch. Back to the story: Chauntea's two younger brothers, War & Chaos, probably established their divine realms together creating the plane of Limbo. At some point, when the human populations of Faerun became isolated from each other by geography, the "mythic tension" caused by diverging belief systems split the extant singular gods into multiple fragments of themselves that went off with each of the respective groups that worshipped them. War split into Tempus & Targus. These two aspects both still lived in Limbo--although they established separate divine realms (Battlegarde & Knight's Rest). When Chaos fragmented, Valigan remained Chaotic Neutral and his portfolio emphasized Chaos, Disorder & perhaps even Freedom. Valigan embodied freedom from the yoke of Tyranny, the destruction of law, the fight against opression, and the overthrowing of established order. Valigan was still very closely allied with his brother War (whatever his name was in the Jhaamdathan pantheon) and so continued to maintain his realm in Limbo. The fragment who later became Kozah & Talos emphasized the darker aspects of Chaos including destruction, fury, storms, catastrophe and rebellion. This more evil fragment was not well suited to Limbo and so it created or split off another realm for itself--separate from Valigan's. A realm which may at one point have been called Pandemonium, but later came to be called "Fury's Heart." Perhaps the realm(s) of Kozah/Talos were at first still attached to the plane of Limbo, but as the fragments of Valigan & Kozah/Talos became more distinct from each other, Kozah/Talos became more evil, and eventually just ripped his realm free from Limbo altogether, forming the separate plane of Fury's Heart. Perhaps Valigan as god of Chaos & Anarchy even had a hand in the creation of the Slaadi. It could be that Ygorl or Ssendam or one of the other Slaad Lords was his proxy (or maybe they all served him in some fashion.) I can imagine that Valigan, god of Anarchy, was the mortal enemy of Jergal, god of Tyranny, who bitterly resented Valigan as representing the complete antithesis of his portfolio. Where Jergal created empires, Valigan tore them down. Where Jergal inspired order, Valigan inspired dissent & disobedience. As Jergal & Valigan fought over time, Jergal corrupted Ygorl to be his agent in Limbo, working against the interests of Valigan (fighting chaos with chaos amused Jergal.) That is perhaps how Ygorl took on his visage of a scythe-wielding deathbringer. This may also be where the death slaadi had their origins. Perhaps Ygorl, as proxy or agent of Jergal, was organizing a revolt against the god of Anarchy himself, and Death Slaadi were to be the pawns in that war. There has got to be a good story in there somewhere. Anyway, that ploy never worked. So Jergal made overtures to powers outside of the Crystal Sphere of Realmspace. He was looking for an ally against Valigan. After all, Jergal was the god of Murder as well. Jergal found his assassin in the guise of Tyr, a defunct god of order and justice that was fading from worship within his native sphere. Jergal invited, tricked, or engineered in machiavellian fashion the entry of Tyr into Realmspace at the head of an army of archons in -247 DR to slay Valigan. It was perhaps the very destruction of his archnemesis that led Jergal to fall into ennui. He never realized how much the eternal competition with his enemy sustained him, inspired him, energized him. The accomplishment of his heart's ambition led Jergal to the contemplation of the cessation of struggle and the orderly winding up of the universe and his own end. It was this very malaise that prompted Jergal to eventually relinquish his portfolios of Murder, Tyranny and Death to 3 aspiring mortals (Bane, Bhaal & Myrkul). After which, Jergal was content to recede into the background and document the unfolding end of all things as scribe of the dead. Valigan's divine realm afterward began to wane in the centuries following his death. His minions the Slaadi and his proxy Ssendam (who as proxy was invested with a spark of Valigan's own divine power) were able to maintain the dwindling realm and keep it from imploding or slipping beyond the Astral as usually happens to divine realms when their patron god dies. Yet over time, the unified Plane of Limbo began to look less chaotic and more martial after the influence of Tempus/Targus/Garagos and the other gods of war. The plane came to be known more as Warrior's Rest, while the name Limbo came more and more to refer only to that swirling, chaotic region of the plane where the Slaad subsisted. Over the centuries, Valigan Thirdborn's Shattered Castle fell slowly into Ruin. In fact, as Kelemvor smashed the last remnants of Cyric's Bone castle and began to reshape it into the Crystal Spire, now homeless Cyric--in a very rare moment, feeling weak and uncertain and alone--approached his former seneschal Jergal in search of solace. Looking pitifully into Jergal's great mantis eyes, Cyric asked: "Where shall I go? What shall become of Cyric?" It was with a deep sense of Irony--and only the hint of a sarcastic grin that crossed his mandibles--that Jergal counselled Cyric: "I know of a place that would suit you..." So after being kicked out of the Fugue Plane (following his Trial in 1368 DR) Cyric, the Prince of Lies, sought refuge in the mad vortex of Limbo, on the plane of Warrior's Rest. Cyric comandeered Valigan's old ruined castle and subsequently entered into a strange association with the Slaad Lord Ygorl whose Death Slaad minions had a budding affinity with the former god of Death. Sometime between 1368 and 1372 DR, Cyric ripped the realm of Limbo free from the plane of Warrior's Rest, severing Limbo's ties with the divine realms of the warrior gods for ever after. Cyric renamed the plane The Supreme Throne in honor of his mad ambition to one day rule the cosmos from it. The Slaadi don't really seem to care too much. They still get to play leapfrog and hopscotch all day, same as they always did. But sometimes, every so often, when the howling winds of the Supreme Throne sound like the anguished wails of a myriad sorrowful amphibians... you can tell the Slaadi are pining mournfully for their lost best-buddies the Githzerai. [/quote]   Check here to include your profile signature. Check here to subscribe to this topic.