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| Na-Gang |
Posted - 25 Sep 2006 : 21:06:23
How do you pronounce 'Graz'zt' ?
Graz-zit seems most likely but I'm loath to using a demon prince with a pimple in his name. |
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| Wooly Rupert |
Posted - 17 Aug 2007 : 11:12:16
quote:
Originally posted by Na-Gang
Sorry to drag this up again, but:
quote:
Originally posted by tauparticle
To inject a nerdy linguistics point of view, I would pronounce Graz'zt as either Grazst or Grazd. There are two broad families of consonants, voiced and un-voiced consonants and most consonants belong to one of them (some, like l and m don't belong to either). Z and t are from different families, so they are awkward to pronounce next to each other. S&t are in the same group, so they mix well (Grazst), or, t's partner in the voiced consonants is d, thus the alternative of Grazd.
This is also why in Drizzt some people insert the 'i' to make 'Drizzit', as this is easier than really putting the z and t next to each other with no vowel in between.
That sounds plausible, but does the apostrophe have no bearing on the pronunciation whatsoever?
That's my take on it. |
| warlockco |
Posted - 17 Aug 2007 : 08:17:06
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
quote:
Originally posted by KnightErrantJR
I would say its pronounced something like GRAZST.
That's my pronunciation of that name, as well.
same |
| Na-Gang |
Posted - 17 Aug 2007 : 07:19:52
Sorry to drag this up again, but:
quote:
Originally posted by tauparticle
To inject a nerdy linguistics point of view, I would pronounce Graz'zt as either Grazst or Grazd. There are two broad families of consonants, voiced and un-voiced consonants and most consonants belong to one of them (some, like l and m don't belong to either). Z and t are from different families, so they are awkward to pronounce next to each other. S&t are in the same group, so they mix well (Grazst), or, t's partner in the voiced consonants is d, thus the alternative of Grazd.
This is also why in Drizzt some people insert the 'i' to make 'Drizzit', as this is easier than really putting the z and t next to each other with no vowel in between.
That sounds plausible, but does the apostrophe have no bearing on the pronunciation whatsoever? |
| tauparticle |
Posted - 01 Oct 2006 : 22:22:47
To inject a nerdy linguistics point of view, I would pronounce Graz'zt as either Grazst or Grazd. There are two broad families of consonants, voiced and un-voiced consonants and most consonants belong to one of them (some, like l and m don't belong to either). Z and t are from different families, so they are awkward to pronounce next to each other. S&t are in the same group, so they mix well (Grazst), or, t's partner in the voiced consonants is d, thus the alternative of Grazd.
This is also why in Drizzt some people insert the 'i' to make 'Drizzit', as this is easier than really putting the z and t next to each other with no vowel in between. |
| warlockco |
Posted - 26 Sep 2006 : 04:27:21
I just go Grazz |
| KnightErrantJR |
Posted - 26 Sep 2006 : 01:53:22
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage
We never reached much of a conclusion on this particular aspect, mostly beacause we were (perhaps making the mistake of) using Terran-examples as a guide to suggest the same structure of the Abyssal language in such regards.
Why would you use the earth elemental language to figure out how to speak Abyssal? (I'm just kidding)  |
| The Sage |
Posted - 26 Sep 2006 : 01:09:13
quote:
Originally posted by KnightErrantJR
quote:
Originally posted by kalin agrivar
I'm no english teacher or anything but doesn't the " ' " in Graz'zt make it sound different than Drizzt which lacks the " ' " ?
Hm . . . actually I think you would have to be an "Abyssal as a Second Language" teacher for this one.
I once participated in a long and drawn out discussion about the Abyssal language -- its origins, its meaning, and its development -- using everything we'd learned in the lore up to that point.
We never reached much of a conclusion on this particular aspect, mostly beacause we were (perhaps making the mistake of) using Terran-examples as a guide to suggest the same structure of the Abyssal language in such regards.
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| Wooly Rupert |
Posted - 25 Sep 2006 : 22:31:41
quote:
Originally posted by kalin agrivar
I'm no english teacher or anything but doesn't the " ' " in Graz'zt make it sound different than Drizzt which lacks the " ' " ?
Not necessary: can't, cant; they're, their; etc. |
| KnightErrantJR |
Posted - 25 Sep 2006 : 21:25:37
quote:
Originally posted by kalin agrivar
I'm no english teacher or anything but doesn't the " ' " in Graz'zt make it sound different than Drizzt which lacks the " ' " ?
Hm . . . actually I think you would have to be an "Abyssal as a Second Language" teacher for this one. |
| KnightErrantJR |
Posted - 25 Sep 2006 : 21:24:24
Well, Drizzt would be pronounced DRIST, with no "buzzing" sound, and a flowing "s." Graz'zt would be pronounced with a GRAZ-SST sound, with a bit of a "buzzing" before the "s" sound, just after the apostrophe. |
| Kalin Agrivar |
Posted - 25 Sep 2006 : 21:21:24
I'm no english teacher or anything but doesn't the " ' " in Graz'zt make it sound different than Drizzt which lacks the " ' " ? |
| Wooly Rupert |
Posted - 25 Sep 2006 : 21:16:23
quote:
Originally posted by KnightErrantJR
I would say its pronounced something like GRAZST.
That's my pronunciation of that name, as well. |
| KnightErrantJR |
Posted - 25 Sep 2006 : 21:11:08
Well, if its anything like Drizzt (DRIST) I would say its pronounced something like GRAZST. I checked the pronunciation guide in the Dragon Compendium Volume One, but it wasn't listed there. |
| Kalin Agrivar |
Posted - 25 Sep 2006 : 21:07:50
that is how I say it...
and I've seen some pretty demonic pimples before!   |
