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| Bladedancer |
Posted - 15 Aug 2006 : 15:03:26
Quick question
What sourcebook stats out those nasty abberations that are beating up the Star Elves? I am rewriting a character from a no-go campaign a few of my friends were going to have.n It now looks like we will be running a mid level game based out of Evermeet. For my ?/wizard's background I need to be able to figure out if he could stand a few rounds against one of these things.
Thanks In Advance |
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| Bladewind |
Posted - 23 Nov 2018 : 18:46:49
Nilshai are sometimes referred to as Ethereal Theurges by star elven scholars. Therefore I like to link Nilshai to an Elder Evil godhood known as Mak Thuum Ngatha (found in Lords of Madness) the Nine Tongued Worm, to whom they offer up arcane secrets and sacrifices in their capitol build from solid ether in the Deep Ethereal.
They are mentioned to communicate with: "a synthesis of high pitched squeels, grinding teeth and tentacled flesh rasping over itself." (Stardeep, pg 220). Sounds like dialect of Deep Speech, for sure.
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| Gary Dallison |
Posted - 23 Nov 2018 : 16:26:23
I've pegged the nilshai, hakeashar, etc as creatures that float in the ethereal consuming magic to sustain themselves. Because they are ethereal in nature they can manifest on the material plane and this manifestation is what people see, their true form on the ethereal plane may be something very different.
I've not decided what created the creatures or what they actually look like, but it was the only way I could think to explain how they can access material plane and extraplanar spaces with ease. |
| sleyvas |
Posted - 23 Nov 2018 : 16:13:39
quote:
Originally posted by Seethyr
Not going to lie, I’d love to see someone try to homebrew a link between the nilshae and phaerimm. Something about those two creatures makes me think of the other.
I could see it. Both are kind of magic hungry it seems. I honestly can't say what kind of link they have to aboleths, but I believe we do have such from the novels, especially given the wiki link. Still, I can honestly see all 3 as coming from the far realms. Given their focus against an elven entity, I also wouldn't be surprised if the Sharn aren't involved with them as well (as possible enemies). |
| Seethyr |
Posted - 21 Nov 2018 : 23:03:29
Not going to lie, I’d love to see someone try to homebrew a link between the nilshae and phaerimm. Something about those two creatures makes me think of the other. |
| sleyvas |
Posted - 21 Nov 2018 : 22:16:14
quote:
Originally posted by Rekov
Is there any official verdict on which language the Nilshai speak? The only reference I've found is in Unapproachable East:
"...some star elves learn Abyssal and other evil tongues to converse with those seeking to destroy Sildëyuir."
The Nilshai are LE though, not CE, so this strikes me as a little odd. They're not demons or devils though, really.
Hmmm, they're abominations with ties to the Far Realm aren't they? They serve the abolethic sovereignty. I'd venture towards deep speech.
https://forgottenrealms.fandom.com/wiki/Deep_Speech
From the 4th edition DMG
The Deep Speech is a language related to the alien communication of the Far Realm, used by creatures influenced by the energy of that place beyond the world and the planes. It uses the Rellanic script because the drow were the first to transcribe it, since they share Underdark haunts with aberrant creatures.
While not a big fan of 4e, some of their stuff does make more sense than prior works. I'd say adopting this language from the far realms makes sense. |
| Rekov |
Posted - 21 Nov 2018 : 22:02:21
Is there any official verdict on which language the Nilshai speak? The only reference I've found is in Unapproachable East:
"...some star elves learn Abyssal and other evil tongues to converse with those seeking to destroy Sildëyuir."
The Nilshai are LE though, not CE, so this strikes me as a little odd. They're not demons or devils though, really. |
| Kalin Agrivar |
Posted - 16 Aug 2006 : 20:05:46
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage
There is no *specifc* reference in UE suggesting that the Nilshai come from the Far Realm. Only that they are natives of some "distant horrible reality."
You were right, I got confused as the nilshai are mentioned in the Lords of Madness book right after the description of the Far Realm...
I put a small colony of ghost elves in the High Forest..near some unnamed (i.e. non-canon) Aryvandor (sp?) ruins |
| Aes Tryl |
Posted - 16 Aug 2006 : 04:15:24
Not much is mentioned about the pantheon the star elves worshipped, but seeing that an influential member of their race was residing in Aracor and later became their Grand Mage(Morthil) it might be reasonable to assume that they worshipped both. |
| The Sage |
Posted - 16 Aug 2006 : 00:57:12
quote:
Originally posted by kalin agrivar
and has anyone incorporated the ghost elves from the Dragon Magazine ?
I have, but they've been taken into RAVENLOFT, and into Darkon. |
| Kalin Agrivar |
Posted - 15 Aug 2006 : 17:53:46
quote:
Originally posted by Corran Horn
Adventure Twilight Tomb is happening in Yuirnwood and it would say something about star elves.
I heard that too...
I have a question, has anyone published anything between the star elves and the original wild elves of the Yuir Woods? Susch as the fact the Yuir elves had their own panthenon, do/did the star elves worship these gods
oh, and I'd love to see the rockseer's too :P
and has anyone incorporated the ghost elves from the Dragon Magazine ?
:) |
| Corran Horn |
Posted - 15 Aug 2006 : 17:40:20
Adventure Twilight Tomb is happening in Yuirnwood and it would say something about star elves. |
| Kalin Agrivar |
Posted - 15 Aug 2006 : 16:50:00
quote:
Originally posted by Chosen of Moradin
[brYes. So, they came from a far realm, but not exaclty, that Far Realm.  
ouch, my sides   |
| Chosen of Moradin |
Posted - 15 Aug 2006 : 16:41:55
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage
There is no *specifc* reference in UE suggesting that the Nilshai come from the Far Realm. Only that they are natives of some "distant horrible reality."
Yes. So, they came from a far realm, but not exaclty, that Far Realm. |
| The Sage |
Posted - 15 Aug 2006 : 16:27:43
quote:
Originally posted by kalin agrivar
and I have a vague memory that they can be linked to the Far Realm too (I think that is out of the Unapproachable East)
There is no *specifc* reference in UE suggesting that the Nilshai come from the Far Realm. Only that they are natives of some "distant horrible reality." |
| Kalin Agrivar |
Posted - 15 Aug 2006 : 15:44:49
quote:
Originally posted by Kuje
quote:
Originally posted by kalin agrivar
and I have a vague memory that they can be linked to the Far Realm too (I think that is out of the Unapproachable East)
Not that I saw.... the only 3/3.5e reference in FR lore about the far realm that I remember is in Eric's Waterdeep book.
I'll look it up tonight... |
| Kuje |
Posted - 15 Aug 2006 : 15:43:44
quote:
Originally posted by kalin agrivar
and I have a vague memory that they can be linked to the Far Realm too (I think that is out of the Unapproachable East)
Not that I saw.... the only 3/3.5e reference in FR lore about the far realm that I remember is in Eric's Waterdeep book. |
| Kalin Agrivar |
Posted - 15 Aug 2006 : 15:23:46
and I have a vague memory that they can be linked to the Far Realm too (I think that is out of the Unapproachable East) |
| Kuje |
Posted - 15 Aug 2006 : 15:22:42
They also play a part in Rich's Last Mythal trilogy. |
| Bladedancer |
Posted - 15 Aug 2006 : 15:19:10
Bloody hell why didn't I think to look there?!?!
Thanks Kalin
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| Chosen of Moradin |
Posted - 15 Aug 2006 : 15:17:32
And are really nasty, as the arcane archer of my group could say... |
| Kalin Agrivar |
Posted - 15 Aug 2006 : 15:04:33
quote:
Originally posted by Bladedancer
Quick question
What sourcebook stats out those nasty abberations that are beating up the Star Elves? I am rewriting a character from a no-go campaign a few of my friends were going to have.n It now looks like we will be running a mid level game based out of Evermeet. For my ranger/wizard's background I need to be able to figure out if he could stand a fe rounds against one of these things.
Thanks In Advance
They were introduced and created in the Unapproachable East book |
