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| Dargoth |
Posted - 07 Oct 2005 : 11:27:27
Was just looking at page 78 of the FRC and its got the following entry
1374 The Year of Lightning storms
1373 is listed as the year of Rogue Dragons and 1375 as the Year of Risen Elfkin
What happaned to the Year of Lightning storms why havent we heard anything? |
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| Rinonalyrna Fathomlin |
Posted - 16 Oct 2005 : 04:53:38
quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos
Not all the year names are necessarily tied into 'major' events. The Year of Risen Elfkin may allude to the raising from the dead of the half-elf warrior Thildras "Sunflail" Morlindrar, leader of the Braveblades Brandished adventuring company out of Milvarune. Why is that event important enough to warrant a "Year name" from Alaundo/Auguthra and co.? Well, the future holds great things in store for young Thildras ...
-- George Krashos
Is that your character?
*places tongue firmly in cheek* |
| George Krashos |
Posted - 13 Oct 2005 : 00:37:30
quote:
Originally posted by El Magnifico Uno
Yeah right George!.. Next you're gonna be telling us that the Year of the Leaping Frog wasn't tied into some secret, as yet unrevealed, cataclysmic event where the Knights of Myth Drannor, Fzoul, Elminster, and Zsass Tam all banded together to battle this really mean voracious frog that would leap at people until they died, and thus threatened the entire existence of Faerun!... Whatever! Everybody knows that's what happened... Last time I'll listen to one of your ideas!.. Pfft...
 But it's true I tell you! The Year of Risen Elfkin has got absolutely nothing to do with any RSEs or other major happenings in the Realms ... *cast obscuring mist* ... see! 
-- George Krashos
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| Alaundo |
Posted - 12 Oct 2005 : 17:29:27
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Are you sure it wasn't the Mexican Staring Frog of Southern Sri Lanka?
WOOLY! Encourage them, not. Now back to thy Realmslore chores  |
| Wooly Rupert |
Posted - 12 Oct 2005 : 17:25:48
quote:
Originally posted by Dargoth
quote:
Originally posted by El Magnifico Uno
Yeah right George!.. Next you're gonna be telling us that the Year of the Leaping Frog wasn't tied into some secret, as yet unrevealed, cataclysmic event where the Knights of Myth Drannor, Fzoul, Elminster, and Zsass Tam all banded together to battle this really mean voracious frog that would leap at people until they died, and thus threatened the entire existence of Faerun!... Whatever! Everybody knows that's what happened... Last time I'll listen to one of your ideas!.. Pfft...
Yeah but the "Leaping Frogs" names was Bazim-Garag
Are you sure it wasn't the Mexican Staring Frog of Southern Sri Lanka? |
| sleyvas |
Posted - 12 Oct 2005 : 13:54:26
maybe I'm wrong but isn't there a novel about a priest of Talos due out? Maybe that's where lightning storms might come in.... or when was the year that the Shadovar started mucking with weather to melt the ice?
Phillip aka Sleyvas |
| warlockco |
Posted - 12 Oct 2005 : 11:24:47
quote:
Originally posted by Dargoth
Yeah but the "Leaping Frogs" names was Bazim-Garag
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| Dargoth |
Posted - 12 Oct 2005 : 09:43:54
quote:
Originally posted by El Magnifico Uno
Yeah right George!.. Next you're gonna be telling us that the Year of the Leaping Frog wasn't tied into some secret, as yet unrevealed, cataclysmic event where the Knights of Myth Drannor, Fzoul, Elminster, and Zsass Tam all banded together to battle this really mean voracious frog that would leap at people until they died, and thus threatened the entire existence of Faerun!... Whatever! Everybody knows that's what happened... Last time I'll listen to one of your ideas!.. Pfft...
Yeah but the "Leaping Frogs" names was Bazim-Garag |
| El Magnifico Uno |
Posted - 12 Oct 2005 : 09:01:47
Yeah right George!.. Next you're gonna be telling us that the Year of the Leaping Frog wasn't tied into some secret, as yet unrevealed, cataclysmic event where the Knights of Myth Drannor, Fzoul, Elminster, and Zsass Tam all banded together to battle this really mean voracious frog that would leap at people until they died, and thus threatened the entire existence of Faerun!... Whatever! Everybody knows that's what happened... Last time I'll listen to one of your ideas!.. Pfft... |
| Crennen FaerieBane |
Posted - 12 Oct 2005 : 04:24:05
All in all, I would have like to live in some of the years past then - I mean all those Year of the Tankards and Year of Good Beer and Year of Fine Ale... those must have been great years!
C-Fb |
| George Krashos |
Posted - 12 Oct 2005 : 04:18:11
Not all the year names are necessarily tied into 'major' events. The Year of Risen Elfkin may allude to the raising from the dead of the half-elf warrior Thildras "Sunflail" Morlindrar, leader of the Braveblades Brandished adventuring company out of Milvarune. Why is that event important enough to warrant a "Year name" from Alaundo/Auguthra and co.? Well, the future holds great things in store for young Thildras ...
-- George Krashos
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| El Magnifico Uno |
Posted - 12 Oct 2005 : 00:55:37
Sure, in which case 1374 would probably be a great year for Risen Elfkin... However odds are the fey'ri won't be "rising" terrbily high come 1375, elfkin or not... In fact, I'd be willing to wager a small sum that their fortunes will be sinking rather dramaticly, the fantasy genre being what it is... Hence, my guess that it's not the fey'ri... 'Course it's all debatable, and open to whatever interpretation a particular DM desires... |
| Dargoth |
Posted - 11 Oct 2005 : 23:59:35
quote:
Originally posted by El Magnifico Uno
** SPOILER ** (kinda)
I'd hazard a guess that y'all might be reaching a bit too far with the "Elfkin" thing... My guess is that it relates to the ressurected Fflar of Myth Drannor fame who undoutedly will have some dramaticly heroic deed to perform in 1375 DR at the end of the Last Mythal series... He's "risen", he's "elfkin", and he's actually been introduced in the FR timeline as oppossed to "out-of-the-blue"... Kinda along that whole Occam's Razor philosophy...
I doubt its Fflar as hes only one person
Its more likely to be Fey'ri who are part elven (Which is a closer definition of Elfkin) also the Fey'ri where sealed underground and only escaped when the Daemonfey released them (Which ties in with the Risen part of the year) |
| El Magnifico Uno |
Posted - 11 Oct 2005 : 23:42:23
** SPOILER ** (kinda)
I'd hazard a guess that y'all might be reaching a bit too far with the "Elfkin" thing... My guess is that it relates to the ressurected Fflar of Myth Drannor fame who undoutedly will have some dramaticly heroic deed to perform in 1375 DR at the end of the Last Mythal series... He's "risen", he's "elfkin", and he's actually been introduced in the FR timeline as oppossed to "out-of-the-blue"... Kinda along that whole Occam's Razor philosophy... |
| warlockco |
Posted - 11 Oct 2005 : 00:38:11
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Actually, I think lythari are true elves, not elfkin. Ditto for drow.
Races of Faerun seems to imply that also. |
| Wooly Rupert |
Posted - 10 Oct 2005 : 16:23:11
quote:
Originally posted by Dargoth
quote:
Originally posted by David Lįzaro
The most similar term to Elfkin that I remember used is the Cloak of Elvenkind. Those, according to Races of Faerūn are common magic items made by the Moon Elves.
And if not elves proper, what other races are spawned from them? Only the elven subraces, half-elves and Fey'ri come to my mind now. Are there others?
Off the top of my head
Fey'ri
Half Elves (all types)
Lythari
It could be argued that Drow and Drageloths are "Elfkin"
Actually, I think lythari are true elves, not elfkin. Ditto for drow. |
| Mr. Wilson |
Posted - 10 Oct 2005 : 10:55:01
I'm hoping Talos has some sort of role in this year's events, given his connection with Lightning. |
| Dargoth |
Posted - 10 Oct 2005 : 10:06:23
quote:
Originally posted by David Lįzaro
The most similar term to Elfkin that I remember used is the Cloak of Elvenkind. Those, according to Races of Faerūn are common magic items made by the Moon Elves.
And if not elves proper, what other races are spawned from them? Only the elven subraces, half-elves and Fey'ri come to my mind now. Are there others?
Off the top of my head
Fey'ri
Half Elves (all types)
Lythari
It could be argued that Drow and Drageloths are "Elfkin" |
| David LƔzaro |
Posted - 10 Oct 2005 : 09:05:43
The most similar term to Elfkin that I remember used is the Cloak of Elvenkind. Those, according to Races of Faerūn are common magic items made by the Moon Elves.
And if not elves proper, what other races are spawned from them? Only the elven subraces, half-elves and Fey'ri come to my mind now. Are there others? |
| Rinonalyrna Fathomlin |
Posted - 10 Oct 2005 : 04:25:03
quote:
Originally posted by Kentinal
OK I searched Elfkin on WotC site and got no hit, that does not mean WotC and/or never used the term as the seach engine is not that robust (seach sometimes does not find pages I know are online at that site) and not all WotC/TSR material is online.
I didn't say WotC has never used the term, it's just that elves (pure elves) are usually refered to as elves--just elves. "Elfkin" would seem to apply to creatures that aren't true elves, but related to them.
And yes, I'm aware that Year names can mean any number of things, and those things need not be significant to all Faerun, I am just speculating. |
| warlockco |
Posted - 10 Oct 2005 : 03:08:15
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage
quote:
Originally posted by Steven Schend
quote:
Originally posted by David Lįzaro
What could we get if we mix lightnings, storms and Khelben?
Bad hair days. For everyone. Across the entire Sword Coast. And the North. Maybe even in the Moonsea region, just to be thorough. 
It's hard to imagine either Laeral or Alustriel having a "bad hair day"...  .
I can think of only one of the Seven having a bad hair day, and no one would dare mention that to the Simbul. |
| The Sage |
Posted - 10 Oct 2005 : 03:04:04
quote:
Originally posted by Steven Schend
quote:
Originally posted by David Lįzaro
What could we get if we mix lightnings, storms and Khelben?
Bad hair days. For everyone. Across the entire Sword Coast. And the North. Maybe even in the Moonsea region, just to be thorough.
It's hard to imagine either Laeral or Alustriel having a "bad hair day"... .
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| Steven Schend |
Posted - 10 Oct 2005 : 02:58:54
quote:
Originally posted by David Lįzaro
What could we get if we mix lightnings, storms and Khelben?
Bad hair days. For everyone. Across the entire Sword Coast. And the North. Maybe even in the Moonsea region, just to be thorough. |
| KnightErrantJR |
Posted - 10 Oct 2005 : 02:16:44
Maybe a lot of kobold will be struck by lightning (sorry, just providing a segway) |
| Kentinal |
Posted - 10 Oct 2005 : 02:13:33
quote:
Originally posted by KnightErrantJR
But ever since 3rd edition, they have been playing up that kobolds are reptillian, and intimating that somewhere a LONG time ago some dragon was REALLY hard up.
Well I did post some various Edition descprictions of them s to their evolotion. Scaly skin, redish skin, humanoid form. However I was shocked to discover a 3.0 Kobold being Dragonkin shortly after the product came out.
Anyway we are wandering from Elfkin and really should be talking about Lightning anyway on this scroll. I Still expect some type of NPC to either cause the storms or be effected by some. |
| KnightErrantJR |
Posted - 10 Oct 2005 : 01:16:24
But ever since 3rd edition, they have been playing up that kobolds are reptillian, and intimating that somewhere a LONG time ago some dragon was REALLY hard up. |
| Kentinal |
Posted - 10 Oct 2005 : 01:14:15
quote:
Originally posted by David Lįzaro
Doesn't it mean that one can substitute gargoyles for references of Dragonkin? That is, if you don't have Monsters of Faerūn available. Dragonkin is a kind of monster described in that book.
Yes that is one posible explaination in this case. I can even acept it, as valid. I had did a quick search of summeriers before and saw those two linked. IAE Kobold and other lizard creatures aparently are listed as related to Dragons somehow.
Gargoyles make much more sense then Kobolds being related to Dragons to me. Gargoyles have wings, fly, use claw and tail attacks. Kobolds hide under rocks, fight with weapons when either desperate or an overwhelming mob and can not fly. |
| warlockco |
Posted - 10 Oct 2005 : 01:10:31
quote:
Originally posted by Kentinal
quote:
Originally posted by warlockco
How are Gargoyles considered Dragonkin?!? 
I only report, I do not have to explain.
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/ex/20030502a
quote:
We also recommend the Monster Compendium: Monsters of Faerūn. A number of the creatures described in this sourcebook can be found there, as shown below. If you do not have Monsters of Faerūn, substitute the appropriate monster from the Monster Manual. ...
Dragonkin (gargoyle)
For a moment thought it might be 2nd, but clearly is 3.x for Unapproachable East campaigns. IAE it makes more sense to me then those dog-faced humaniods. *G*
Ah I see now.
Miss reading of the information.
If you do not have stats for Dragonkin, they are telling you to use Gargoyles instead, and so on. |
| David LƔzaro |
Posted - 10 Oct 2005 : 01:02:10
quote:
Originally posted by Kentinal
quote:
Originally posted by warlockco
How are Gargoyles considered Dragonkin?!?
I only report, I do not have to explain.
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/ex/20030502a
quote:
We also recommend the Monster Compendium: Monsters of Faerūn. A number of the creatures described in this sourcebook can be found there, as shown below. If you do not have Monsters of Faerūn, substitute the appropriate monster from the Monster Manual. ...
Dragonkin (gargoyle)
Doesn't it mean that one can substitute gargoyles for references of Dragonkin? That is, if you don't have Monsters of Faerūn available. Dragonkin is a kind of monster described in that book. |
| Kentinal |
Posted - 09 Oct 2005 : 23:38:49
quote:
Originally posted by warlockco
How are Gargoyles considered Dragonkin?!?
I only report, I do not have to explain.
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/ex/20030502a
quote:
We also recommend the Monster Compendium: Monsters of Faerūn. A number of the creatures described in this sourcebook can be found there, as shown below. If you do not have Monsters of Faerūn, substitute the appropriate monster from the Monster Manual. ...
Dragonkin (gargoyle)
For a moment thought it might be 2nd, but clearly is 3.x for Unapproachable East campaigns. IAE it makes more sense to me then those dog-faced humaniods. *G*
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| warlockco |
Posted - 09 Oct 2005 : 23:02:22
quote:
Originally posted by Kentinal
OK I searched Elfkin on WotC site and got no hit, that does not mean WotC and/or never used the term as the seach engine is not that robust (seach sometimes does not find pages I know are online at that site) and not all WotC/TSR material is online.
IAE Elfkin would appear to indicate not just elves but any related to Elves. Expalpes one might look at include Dragonkin (which includes, Kobolds, gargoyles, half-dragons, Wyvern and so on). So options are very large indeed, based on how Elfkin will be used.
How are Gargoyles considered Dragonkin?!? |
