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| Milythar Sylavin |
Posted - 05 Feb 2003 : 11:05:09
Ao is the first and most powerful god of Faerun. He made the first pantheon but... I would like to know, who was in this pantheon and what was his/her sphere in this time. Can you help me? |
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| Bookwyrm |
Posted - 07 Feb 2003 : 06:49:55
Wow. I've got a not-too-small interest in comparative mythology, and this sounds like something out of "real" legends. I usually concentrate on non-divinity myths (i.e., non-human creatures like dragons, vampires, elves, and other spirits, and how different peoples thought of them), but I may have to pick up some of these reference books just for the reading value. This stuff here is entertaining, at least. |
| Echon |
Posted - 06 Feb 2003 : 16:13:41
Amaunator
-Echon |
| Mumadar Ibn Huzal |
Posted - 06 Feb 2003 : 15:45:55
Pelor is a Greyhawk deity, not a Forgotten Realms deity.
Once upon a time there was a Sun Deity, Aumanathor (sp?), but he is no longer actively worshipped. Information about this deity and his clergy can be found in the 2nd edition Faiths & Avatars |
| Ranaghar Tsaran |
Posted - 06 Feb 2003 : 10:36:12
quote:
Originally posted by Mumadar Ibn Huzal
The sister of light, Selūne gave in and using a great amount of Elemental fire, created the sun.
Was Pelor created then? He's the god of sun, I suppose... |
| Mumadar Ibn Huzal |
Posted - 06 Feb 2003 : 10:14:58
A little browsing through the scrolls of Candlekeep turned up some interesting information, particularly the scrolls dealing with the dubious being known as Lord Ao. Through the efforts of the somewhat misguided Cult of Ao, some elements of Toril's earliest legends have come to light. These legends have much in common with the oldest lore of the churches of Selūne, Shar and Chauntea.
According to their scriptures which provide some insight into the oldest deities of Toril, Lord Ao created the universe. Out of that process of creation twin beings came to be; one representing light and one representing darkness: Selūne and Shar.
The twin sisters created the heavenly bodies, and in that creation process they gave life to a spirit that turned itself to the task of animating Toril; Jannath the Earthmother, nowadays better known as Chauntea. The Earthmother begged the sisters for warmth and light so her own creations could survive and flourish upon Toril.
The sister of light, Selūne gave in and using a great amount of Elemental fire, created the sun. Shar, the dark sister didnt like the concept of life and preferred the eternal darkness. She thwarted her sisters creation by snuffing out Selūnes lights, thereby weakening the sister of light. Using part of her own essence, Selūne lashed out at Shar, and the bolt of light ripped a part of the dark deity. The two pieces of light and darkness coalesced into Mystryl, a being of pure magic.
The battle between the sisters raged on, with Mystryl siding on the side of light. This first battle between the chaotic deities gave birth to other deities as well, some of which have been forgotten in time, others who are still around. Among them the original deities of war, disease, murder, death, and others
Several deities of war were created in the first battle between the two sisters, all eventually vying for the position of ultimate deity of war. The two best known of these deities are Tempus and Garagos the Reaver. Talos is also said to one of the deities created by that first battle and it could be that at one point he also qualified as a deity of war and over time grew into the Destroyer.
(Sources: page 18, 56, 68, 71 Faiths & Pantheons; page 4 Magic of Faerūn; page 249, 260 Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting.)
For those wishing to learn a little more about the earliest history of the Forgotten Realms: check page 260 and subsequent. In brief it discusses the creation of Toril, the first deities and the first races to walk the surface.
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| Mumadar Ibn Huzal |
Posted - 05 Feb 2003 : 17:25:58
Hmmm... I might be mistaken, but I thought I had seen info under the entries of Shar and Selune...
I'll look it up tonight to see exactly where I have seen the info. Magic of Faerun is for sure, because this legend also explains the Shadow Weave... |
| Kitira Gildragon |
Posted - 05 Feb 2003 : 17:11:57
Mumadar, Faiths and Pantheons has this info? Which page? I don't recall seing that. |
| Mumadar Ibn Huzal |
Posted - 05 Feb 2003 : 15:45:16
Faiths & Pantheons and Magic of Faerun both have information on this legend (3rd edition products)
Faiths & Avatars (2nd edition) also has some of this history. |
| Echon |
Posted - 05 Feb 2003 : 13:56:54
quote:
Originally posted by Ranaghar Tsaran
mmm...I didn't know that. Where did you find these informations, Mumadar?
I remember reading what Mumadar describes in a book in Baldur's Gate. And all of the 'books' in this game consist of quotes from canon material.
-Echon
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| Ranaghar Tsaran |
Posted - 05 Feb 2003 : 12:28:05
mmm...I didn't know that. Where did you find these informations, Mumadar? |
| Mumadar Ibn Huzal |
Posted - 05 Feb 2003 : 12:11:02
There were no other gods in the beginning, only Shar, Selune darkness and light. And the world they created which became Chauntea. The strife between the sisters over the millenia spawned several other gods. Most well known of those is Mystryl (currently Mystra).
Of course in due time deities from other planes made a visit and left some of their aspect/presence behind, as well as mortals on Toril which rose to deity status. |
| Ranaghar Tsaran |
Posted - 05 Feb 2003 : 11:59:36
I think that Selune and Shar were first "daughters" of Ao. They are sisters and they created Toril with help of other Gods, I think... |
| Ranaghar Tsaran |
Posted - 05 Feb 2003 : 11:54:51
I know it's not the answer for your question, but I know(also) that you seek information about Lord Ao. Here they are...
AO(ay-oh) stands outside of the power struggles of deities in Faerun.A quiet and distant being, Ao is the overgod of Toril. He is responsible for the creation of the first deities of Toril and for maintaining the cosmic balance. Ao was completely unknown before the Time of Troubles. His presence was made known when he single-handly banished all the deities to walk Faerun in mortal forms as punishment because many of them had abdicated their responsibilities.
Ao has supreme power over all deities of Toril, is capable of demoting, banishing, or destroying any of them, and can elevate mortals to any level of divinity if thay accept the responsibilities and duties of the divine state. No being can be promoted to divinity without his approval. He is impervious to all attacks, even by a concerted effortof all the divine powers, and has no known realm among the Planes. Ao is essentially the god of the deities of Faerun. He answers no mortal prayer, grants no spells to mortals, and has not been heard since the end of the Godswar. It is unknown if he established the fundation of the cosmology of Toril or if that structure is something that evolved over time from the interaction of the deities.
And what about first pantheon...I think this is the gathering of all of the Gods, before Time of Troubles(because then many gods had been killed, and some of them had beed added to the second pantheon). Am I clear? |
| zemd |
Posted - 05 Feb 2003 : 11:22:23
tough question, have you try to look in dieties and demigods (2nd) and faiths and avatars (2nde). I know that there is an entry on Ao in the latter |
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