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| Trafaldi |
Posted - 03 Feb 2003 : 19:03:33
Drizzt and Legolas have been discussed.
Eliminster, Gandalf, and Walker Boh have been discussed.
Now we must see who would win Bruenor or Gimli.
Which of these great dwarves would win in a brawl? |
| 30 L A T E S T R E P L I E S (Newest First) |
| Mournblade |
Posted - 30 Mar 2003 : 08:17:00
YES this is the same post as before...
I wonder which fruit would win in a fight...
an apple or an orange.
It is impossible to tell, because Salvatore's books features detailed fighting. J.R.R. Tolkein was a Linguist proffeseur, he did not write detailed fighting segments, instead he concentrated on cultural aspects and myth. Perhaps if we were given a bit more information about Legolas's fighting we could come up with an answer to this pointless question.
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| Baron Sengir |
Posted - 28 Mar 2003 : 23:17:58
Bruenor Battlehammer.Salvatore might be the reason.Anyone who read "Siege of Darkness" will remember the scene when the "King" killed the "Queen".And understand what "rage" means.A dwarf is bull-headed.Bruenor "is" a bull himself.All I can see after the duel is that leader of Clan Battlehammer walking away from the scene trying to clean his face.Cursing himself because he couldn't have finished his job cleaner(Sure I am not counting Bruenor's nature.He wouldn't do anything like that,killing someone from his race.)Gimli,no chance.sorry... |
| Hendrindar |
Posted - 25 Mar 2003 : 20:30:27
I belive that it would be an almost average battle, both are great fighters... |
| Brad_stubbert |
Posted - 25 Mar 2003 : 00:04:18
i think that Bruenor would win from battle smarts this would not be a battle of strength because they are so equal. I have read alot about both of them and they are both amoung my fav. chacters. again hats off to Gimli for a long hard fight but the belt would have to go to Bruenor. |
| Kailen Rage |
Posted - 08 Mar 2003 : 20:15:24
Gimli would put a good fight but in the end Bruenor would win' he is to stubborn to quit so I think he would wear Gimli down. |
| Targon Moonrise |
Posted - 08 Mar 2003 : 06:40:55
I would say Bruenor. But like peop,e have said, if they met, they might become best friends or bad enemies and we would never know for sure who could be the winner without a true contest between them. |
| DragonofJustice |
Posted - 24 Feb 2003 : 06:28:46
(DOJ grunts, nods his head once, and turns back to his beer) |
| Bookwyrm |
Posted - 24 Feb 2003 : 06:21:58
No, that would be Father that makes us both clean up. Now, that's a dragon to be reckoned with! |
| DragonofJustice |
Posted - 24 Feb 2003 : 06:15:58
(DOJ smiles slightly)
Let us call it spending quality time between brothers. What is a little squabble between two magic wielding dragons? We've never completely destroyed a place. Why do you thing my brother is so good at repairing windows that people have been thrown through. He has experience. I throw. He lands. I make him clean up. |
| sushisauce |
Posted - 24 Feb 2003 : 01:47:25
yeah... a family or...fighting? fear? or.. just brotherly love? |
| DragonofJustice |
Posted - 23 Feb 2003 : 06:01:51
Why does Bookwyrm show fear? Cheer up little wyrm. I have cut off any body parts . . .of late. |
| Jalfrez |
Posted - 22 Feb 2003 : 19:42:22
I actually think it would be a long fight(like Drizzt and Entrie). My guess would be Brenour, because Gimli isn't as smart as Brenour.It would be a battle of wits. |
| Bookwyrm |
Posted - 21 Feb 2003 : 19:30:55
Please, don't encourage him in his bloodthirsty ways! I'm his younger brother, after all . . . .   |
| Ranaghar Tsaran |
Posted - 21 Feb 2003 : 19:06:09
Indeed... |
| Aust Grimshadow |
Posted - 21 Feb 2003 : 14:01:58
Couldnt have said it better myself.  |
| DragonofJustice |
Posted - 21 Feb 2003 : 06:12:49
Bruenor vs. Gimli. I've got to say, that would be a much more interesting match than El vs. Gandalf and Drizzt vs. Legolas. Mostly because I can already see the blood and gore splattering over everything.
How can one discount Gimli so quickly. Don't go by the movie, it doesn't do him justice. Go to the originals, the books, specifically the Two Towers, and Helms Deep. He is hard core!
Having said that, however, he would still lose. I have this vison of both of them near death, weapons shattered, blood and gore everywhere, and Bruenor snapping Gimli's neck killing him, moment prior to dying of the wounds given him by Gimli. Gimli would lose, by dying first, but Bruenor wouldn't be far behind him. |
| Sadonayerah Odrydin |
Posted - 21 Feb 2003 : 04:43:39
In all truth...I'm kind of tied between the two. In a sense I think that Bruenor would definitely win...but to an extent I kind of think Gimli would. I mean, the evidence that Bruenor is indeed a very strong fighter is pretty much a deciding thing that he would win, but I think that Gimli would have a chance.
So either one could win is my opinion.
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| Elminster |
Posted - 19 Feb 2003 : 06:33:03
Let's put it this way. In both LOTR and in Forgotten Realms, the denomination (clan) and direct lineage are imporant for both Elves and Dwarves. For example we know that in LOTR the Teleri were the best sailors, the Noldor were the craftsmen etc. We know also that the descendants of Dain (the great dwarf) are more fantastical and powerful (in whatever sense of the word) than dwarves from 'lesser' clans. Gimli is a many routed descendant. A kind of branch name if you please...from Gloin etc. Had he been descended directly from Thorin Oakenshield it might be different.
Breunor on the other hand is sole heir to the throne of Mithril Hall (excluding the books where he takes control of it again if you see my meaning - im a bit behind - books are so expensive). He has a more royal and direct lineage than Gimlie. Add to that fact the experience Gimli has gained being much older and wiser than Gimli.
The other contributing factor to Breunor's 'winning' or woteva, is that Tolkien doesn't describe power in the terms that Forgotten Realms authors do. Gimli killed 42 orcs in the battle of Helm's Deep being his most major battle in his life. Bruenor seems to kill that many with startling regularity so it is difficult to compare them as the wrinting styles are different. My opinion though, Breunor would win, if nothing else than his better equuipment and experience.
I have not followed the Gandalf/Elminster, Drizzt/Legolas threads but on those topics i can only say as well that the writing tyles again confound one. For instance in the whole of Tolkien's collected works, never does Gandalf "cast a spell" with a certain mechanism and with certain damage as it were. So i would have to say as a wise man and mover/changer of events, the best would be Gandalf - if only cause he has lived so much longer than Elminster. As for powerful magic, can ANYONE really compare to Elminster?
Drizzt and Legolas? one is ranger the one is a sort of non descript archer (not the ranger kit mind you) and with a bow, legolas wins. With swords, Drizzt obviously. Add to that Gwuenvyer (spelling i have NO idea) and his magic birth rite, i say overall Drizzt. |
| Ranaghar Tsaran |
Posted - 18 Feb 2003 : 21:55:49
quote:
Originally posted by jason12345
I think that any LOTR characters would win in a fight against any FR characters because LOTR started everything related to Dungeons and Dragons...
We all know that Tolkien is the "father of fantasy", but it doesn't mean, that everything else is worse...it is not worse, it just diffrent |
| Salius Kai |
Posted - 18 Feb 2003 : 19:28:44
Thats not entirely true Feanor, even though I agree with you for the most part. There are probably many LoTR characters that could best their FR counterparts, and vis-versa. Its really impossible to tell, and is all just a matter of opinion (so most people will probably put their favorite). |
| Feanor_Karnil |
Posted - 18 Feb 2003 : 15:05:58
This is NOT a popularity contest so it wouldn't matter who is 'cooler' but I say again Bruenor would win. The votes for the fight would be pretty much even, because most people who have seen the LotR movies and not read the FR books would of course say that Gimli would win. And those who have read the books would say Bruenor would win. But if they made a movie over the FR books I'm sure that would change everyone's mind and show how much better the FR characters are better than the LotR characters. |
| jason12345 |
Posted - 18 Feb 2003 : 01:59:59
Ha ha ha! Yet another "who would win, FR or LOTR" I know that Gimily would kick Bruenor's behind. Gimily is like the coolest person in LOTR other then Gandalf and Frodo and Legolas and Bilbo. I think that any LOTR characters would win in a fight against any FR characters because LOTR started everything related to Dungeons and Dragons. So my answer is Gimily.
P.S. I suggest we next discuss this topic: Who would win, Alaundo or the Blue Power Ranger from the original Mighty Morphin Power Rangers (my vote is for the Blue Power Ranger)
Just kidding |
| Aust Grimshadow |
Posted - 17 Feb 2003 : 21:23:57
I say Bruenor hands down. He has much more experience as far as battles go, and he seemsto just be a better fighter overall then Gimli. However, it is quite hard to compare the two character b/c they live in such different worlds. It doesnt seem fair to contrast a dwarf from a place like ten towns, (a place that gets attacked just about once a week by who knows what) and Gimli from dwarven mines ( place that doesnt require skill in the battlefield to survive.. ME and FR are just too different to draw a fair comparison. |
| sushisauce |
Posted - 16 Feb 2003 : 03:02:57
Gimli.
!)He from LOTR
2)I'm to this relm and don't know the other guy
3)as for resistance to cold, Gimli is the best!
And about Drizzt vs. Legolas
isn't DRizzt a drow which is different from an elf esp. the LOTR elves
and The Gandalf matter, Gandalf is supreme. Even the elves and Sauron fear him when he's angry |
| Salius Kai |
Posted - 11 Feb 2003 : 01:00:20
quote:
Origianally Posted By drummerboy465
Not to spoil anyone's fun or offend anyone, but aren't these "someone vs. someone" topics a bit pointless? First of all, if any of these legendary heroes ever met, why in the world would they want to fight each other? Also, if any of you have read the 2nd Harry Potter book (yeah, I know most of you probably hate Harry Potter)or seen the movie, the lesson of it is that what defines us is not our abilities, but the choices we make. Just MHO
I guess its really just how you look at it. I beleive Vlad (scince I know him and hes horrible at wording) was just after your opinions. I agree, these kind of topics are a bit off, and these battles should never happen. But "IF" they did happen, in your opinion, who would win.
Again, I say Gimli. |
| enchantedgoblin |
Posted - 09 Feb 2003 : 15:19:45
I would have to say Bruenor. |
| Trafaldi |
Posted - 06 Feb 2003 : 19:54:17
quote:
Originally posted by Ranaghar Tsaran
We cannot say who of these dwarves would win in a brawl, now.But... The only way to find an answer to your questions Vlad, is very simple. We just have to open a portal(a gate), that leads to MiddleEarth and then we have to find Legolas, Gandalf, Gimli and bring them to Drizzt, Elmi and Bruenor. See? That's very simple
This topic was interesting because you could really picture this battle with your imagination. The clang of axe on axe the thumps of a good headbutt and the cursing of dwarves.
Hey that sounds like a good idea who knows how to open the portals. |
| Ranaghar Tsaran |
Posted - 05 Feb 2003 : 11:07:43
quote:
Originally posted by zemd
I think we'll never be able to find the answers to such topic!
We cannot say who of these dwarves would win in a brawl, now.But... The only way to find an answer to your questions Vlad, is very simple. We just have to open a portal(a gate), that leads to MiddleEarth and then we have to find Legolas, Gandalf, Gimli and bring them to Drizzt, Elmi and Bruenor.
See? That's very simple |
| zemd |
Posted - 05 Feb 2003 : 10:14:14
I think we'll never be able to find the answers to such topic! |
| Echon |
Posted - 04 Feb 2003 : 13:42:00
Gimli.
-Echon
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