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| RAKKIR |
Posted - 28 Jul 2005 : 18:12:38
Who are the seven lost/Dead Gods?
I thnk THESE are four of them
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Amaunator
Moander
Mystryl?
Tyche
Other possibilities that I don't think are them.
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Bhaal...(I don't think this is in there)
Karsus (I don't think this is one of them)
That one consort of Helm who was the goddess of reason/pragmatism.
One of these seven was supposedly slain by Myrkul, Bhall, and Bane when they were still mortal. Anyone know which one?
Where can I find information on this? Something definitive as to who they were?
As an aside:
Also, who REALLY wants to see Karsus come back? I do, fervently. Maybe somehow serving under Mystra as Azuth does. Perhaps he has learned from his hubris and that could be incorporated into his portfolio? Or, perhaps Mystra could bring him back as some sort of "key" into gaining the Shadow-Weave from Shar. Since, Mystryl supposedly "gave up" the ability to control the shadow-weave when she re-incarnated herself as Mystra.
That's another thing I hope happens, Mystra getting the Shadow Weave from Shar.
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| Na-Gang |
Posted - 08 May 2007 : 18:58:16
quote:
Sylune helped save Sharess/Bast.
I think that should have read "Sune helped save Sharess" |
| KnightErrantJR |
Posted - 04 May 2007 : 17:21:13
Yeah, I love that one too. There are tons of obscure deities of various races that I love to still try to throw references to in my games. |
| Markustay |
Posted - 04 May 2007 : 17:02:49
Forgot about that, good catch, KEJr.
Monster Mythology is one of my favorite 2e sources. |
| The Sage |
Posted - 04 May 2007 : 02:01:15
quote:
Originally posted by Mumadar Ibn Huzal
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage
quote:
Originally posted by Kuje
quote:
Originally posted by Victor_ograygor
My research say that teas should be The Seven Lost Gods
The Seven Lost Gods, all of whom "bowed down before Bane"
1. Camnod the Unseen
2. Borem of the Lake of Boiling Mud: Former god of anger
3. Haask, the Voice of Hargut
4. Maram of the Great Spear
5. Tyranthraxus the Flamed One
Except there are two sets of seven lost gods, that is one set but there is another set. :)
Further clarification from Eric -
"As I noted in the C&D web enhancement, Borem is thought to have been one of the Seven Lost Gods. (There are 2 sets of Seven Lost Gods. The OLDER set includes Borem, Tyranthraxus, etc. Only five of that set are named.)...
--Eric"
A little more on this older set - in particular Borem - is included in Faiths & Pantheons, page 169 (Darkhouse of Saerloon). It hints at Borem being worshipped by the Jhaamdath culture, or a culture using their script. And the little text in italics would hint at Borem being 'killed' by Bane, Bhaal and Myrkul in their quest for divinity.
F&P places the Lake of Boiling Mud's possible location on Mezeketh Isle -- two miles SW of Saerloon's harbor. It's also said that the Lake may have existed, during pre-Dale Reckoning, somewhere in Jhaamdath -- possibly in the vicinity of what would become Sembia. These "indefinite" points about the possible location of the Lake may work to support a little of what Eric suggested to me some time ago about Borem's "travelling" avatar -
"Implicit in your assumption is that the Lake of Burning Blood/Mud is a "real lake". I'd suggest that maybe it's a moveable lake (in other words, the lake is the "avatar" of Borem). Alternatively, it could be the lake is created by opening a blood-spewing portal. When the portal closes/moves, the lake drains away.
--Eric"
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| Kuje |
Posted - 04 May 2007 : 00:33:40
quote:
Originally posted by Markustay
but some other deity (forget who) saved her and they all live happily ever after.
Sorry about the missing goddess's name, I'm not at home and don't have any of my references.
Sylune helped save Sharess/Bast. |
| KnightErrantJR |
Posted - 04 May 2007 : 00:04:54
Jazirian predates A Guide to Hell making its first appearance in Monster Mythology, so Jazirian had a place in Realms history due to being the former patron of Coatls. But yes, the bits about being one of the co creators of Universe aren't really "Realmsian." |
| Markustay |
Posted - 04 May 2007 : 00:02:24
quote:
Originally posted by RAKKIR
So, in summation we have the following dead (or greatly reduced in worship) gods.
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31: Jazirian (Who is this?)
Frome 2e A Guide to Hell. I'm not really sure why he was even mentioned in SK, because his history in the earlier work doesn't really merge well with FR lore; he/she was one of the two Celestial (as in 'uber-cosmic') Dragons that created the Outer planes. Her bro Ahriman helped her, but later became Asmodeus.
I Think....
quote:
Originally posted by Forge
What about Bast? Or is she not eligible due to being subsumed into Shar?(I think it was Shar)
Actually, she saved Zandilar the Dancer from the further machinations of Vhaeruan (after he sired Selvatarm on her), and then subsumed that goddess/Yuir Totem and became Sharess. She never merged with Shar, just hung out with her for awhile and became kinda 'dark'. During the ToT Shar tried to kill her to take her power, but some other deity (forget who) saved her and they all live happily ever after.
Sorry about the missing goddess's name, I'm not at home and don't have any of my references. |
| Asgetrion |
Posted - 03 May 2007 : 23:03:52
quote:
Originally posted by Mumadar Ibn Huzal
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage
quote:
Originally posted by Kuje
quote:
Originally posted by Victor_ograygor
My research say that teas should be The Seven Lost Gods
The Seven Lost Gods, all of whom "bowed down before Bane"
1. Camnod the Unseen
2. Borem of the Lake of Boiling Mud: Former god of anger
3. Haask, the Voice of Hargut
4. Maram of the Great Spear
5. Tyranthraxus the Flamed One
Except there are two sets of seven lost gods, that is one set but there is another set. :)
Further clarification from Eric -
"As I noted in the C&D web enhancement, Borem is thought to have been one of the Seven Lost Gods. (There are 2 sets of Seven Lost Gods. The OLDER set includes Borem, Tyranthraxus, etc. Only five of that set are named.)...
--Eric"
A little more on this older set - in particular Borem - is included in Faiths & Pantheons, page 169 (Darkhouse of Saerloon). It hints at Borem being worshipped by the Jhaamdath culture, or a culture using their script. And the little text in italics would hint at Borem being 'killed' by Bane, Bhaal and Myrkul in their quest for divinity.
And also features an artifact known as 'Borem's Quagheart', which is "the final remnant of the slain deity Borem of the Lake of Boiling Mud". Another artifact -- Jathiman Dagger -- transfixes the heart, and it was apparently this "god-slayer" weapon that Bane, Bhaal and Myrkul used to kill Borem. There is also an interesting reference to the Netherese Cult of Jathiman and its demise at Jergal's hands. |
| Jamallo Kreen |
Posted - 03 May 2007 : 20:36:53
quote:
Originally posted by Mumadar Ibn Huzal
(snip snip snip)
quote:
A little more on this older set - in particular Borem - is included in Faiths & Pantheons, page 169 (Darkhouse of Saerloon). It hints at Borem being worshipped by the Jhaamdath culture, or a culture using their script. And the little text in italics would hint at Borem being 'killed' by Bane, Bhaal and Myrkul in their quest for divinity.
Thanks, Mumadar; I think that is to what I was formerly referred.
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| Mumadar Ibn Huzal |
Posted - 03 May 2007 : 20:22:36
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage
quote:
Originally posted by Kuje
quote:
Originally posted by Victor_ograygor
My research say that teas should be The Seven Lost Gods
The Seven Lost Gods, all of whom "bowed down before Bane"
1. Camnod the Unseen
2. Borem of the Lake of Boiling Mud: Former god of anger
3. Haask, the Voice of Hargut
4. Maram of the Great Spear
5. Tyranthraxus the Flamed One
Except there are two sets of seven lost gods, that is one set but there is another set. :)
Further clarification from Eric -
"As I noted in the C&D web enhancement, Borem is thought to have been one of the Seven Lost Gods. (There are 2 sets of Seven Lost Gods. The OLDER set includes Borem, Tyranthraxus, etc. Only five of that set are named.)...
--Eric"
A little more on this older set - in particular Borem - is included in Faiths & Pantheons, page 169 (Darkhouse of Saerloon). It hints at Borem being worshipped by the Jhaamdath culture, or a culture using their script. And the little text in italics would hint at Borem being 'killed' by Bane, Bhaal and Myrkul in their quest for divinity. |
| Jamallo Kreen |
Posted - 03 May 2007 : 20:16:10
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
quote:
Originally posted by Jamallo Kreen
(snip snip snip)
Cloak & Dagger was about power groups, though it does have a section on Westgate. That section does not really offer more info on the seven lost gods than what's already in this thread.
The web enhancements (found here) are two Word docs (this was before they started putting pdfs and download links on the pages) and an art gallery. One doc is the timeline linked above, the other is a breakdown of the Westgate dynasties.
Thanks, Wooly! |
| Asgetrion |
Posted - 03 May 2007 : 18:55:25
quote:
Originally posted by RAKKIR
We also have:
1: The Yuirwood Gods only one of which is known.
Actually, four of them are known by name. Zandilar the Dancer, Magnar, Relkath of the Infinite Branches and Simbul. All appear in the novel The Simbul's Gift. |
| Asgetrion |
Posted - 03 May 2007 : 18:51:33
quote:
Originally posted by Jamallo Kreen
Mmmm ... at the risk of sounding obtuse, have we ever learned who was the seventh, "whose name has been forgotten"?
I guess the seventh god was intentionally left unnamed, so that every DM might use it as a story-hook for a deity of their own choosing. Personally, I might prefer Borem, Tyche, Shaundakul or Murdane (in no particular order).
A possible theory: The Temptation of Elminster shows us that of the Nethrese Arcanists at least Karsus had a secret lair near Westgate. Maybe he (and even some other Netherese) left relics of their culture behind? Moander and Garagos (Targus) are two of the Lost Gods, and thus I might be inclined to think that the "seventh" would be a deity of the Netherese pantheon, too. Tyche had an important monastery in Cormyr (Monksblade) which would suggest that she was still alive after the Templeban Edict, and it wouldn't probably too far-fetched to assume that she might have been worshipped in Westgate, too? |
| The Sage |
Posted - 03 May 2007 : 00:52:30
quote:
Originally posted by Kuje
quote:
Originally posted by Victor_ograygor
My research say that teas should be The Seven Lost Gods
The Seven Lost Gods, all of whom "bowed down before Bane"
1. Camnod the Unseen
2. Borem of the Lake of Boiling Mud: Former god of anger
3. Haask, the Voice of Hargut
4. Maram of the Great Spear
5. Tyranthraxus the Flamed One
Except there are two sets of seven lost gods, that is one set but there is another set. :)
Further clarification from Eric -
"As I noted in the C&D web enhancement, Borem is thought to have been one of the Seven Lost Gods. (There are 2 sets of Seven Lost Gods. The OLDER set includes Borem, Tyranthraxus, etc. Only five of that set are named.)...
--Eric"
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| Kuje |
Posted - 03 May 2007 : 00:10:11
quote:
Originally posted by Victor_ograygor
My research say that teas should be The Seven Lost Gods
The Seven Lost Gods, all of whom "bowed down before Bane"
1. Camnod the Unseen
2. Borem of the Lake of Boiling Mud: Former god of anger
3. Haask, the Voice of Hargut
4. Maram of the Great Spear
5. Tyranthraxus the Flamed One
Except there are two sets of seven lost gods, that is one set but there is another set. :) |
| Victor_ograygor |
Posted - 02 May 2007 : 23:54:21
My research say that teas should be The Seven Lost Gods
The Seven Lost Gods, all of whom "bowed down before Bane"
1. Camnod the Unseen
2. Borem of the Lake of Boiling Mud: Former god of anger
3. Haask, the Voice of Hargut
4. Maram of the Great Spear
5. Tyranthraxus the Flamed One
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| Wooly Rupert |
Posted - 02 May 2007 : 21:45:37
quote:
Originally posted by Jamallo Kreen
Mmmm ... at the risk of sounding obtuse, have we ever learned who was the seventh, "whose name has been forgotten"?
I could be mistaken, but I believe that the seventh has never been named.
quote:
Originally posted by Jamallo Kreen
What is the URL for the Cloak and Dagger web enhancement (or is it the Westgate timeline itself? (The links to the Pool of Radiance handbook are dead now. Does the published campaign accessory have the same information?)
Cloak & Dagger was about power groups, though it does have a section on Westgate. That section does not really offer more info on the seven lost gods than what's already in this thread.
The web enhancements (found here) are two Word docs (this was before they started putting pdfs and download links on the pages) and an art gallery. One doc is the timeline linked above, the other is a breakdown of the Westgate dynasties. |
| Jamallo Kreen |
Posted - 02 May 2007 : 20:33:13
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
quote:
Originally posted by Kuje
The Cloak & Dagger web enchancement describes who they really are.
Ah, yes, you are correct. From the timeline for the city of Westgate:
quote:
927 DR Year of the Red Rain
Fed up with the excesses of both the Reaver King and the Prince-Templars who proceeded him, the merchant nobility of Westgate secretly hires another army of mercenaries to over throw Gostaraj in turn. The heads of the various noble houses choose Altarl Campion, the head of a powerful merchant family, as Westgate’s next king.
As his first official act, King Altarl bans all organized religious activity within the city walls, and all existing temples are torn down, their land seized in the name of the new king. The Templeban Edict extends beyond the city walls as well, permitting only simple shrines within a day’s walk of Westgate.
In the nine decades that follow, no less than seven rings of standing stones are established on a ring of seven hillocks just beyond the last rise west of the city. One such site, the Hill of Fangs, is established by worshipers of Moander. The Abomination’s hilltop shrine consists of a ring of eight great red stone plinths shaped like fangs curving inwards. The other faiths include Garagos, Ghaunadaur, Jergal, Savras, Silvanus, and one whose name has been forgotten. Unbeknownst to the general populace of Westgate, secret subterranean temples are established beneath most (or all) of the seven hillocks, as well as in the catacombs of the city itself, in direct violation of the Templeban Edict.
Mmmm ... at the risk of sounding obtuse, have we ever learned who was the seventh, "whose name has been forgotten"?
What is the URL for the Cloak and Dagger web enhancement (or is it the Westgate timeline itself? (The links to the Pool of Radiance handbook are dead now. Does the published campaign accessory have the same information?)
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| Lashan |
Posted - 01 Aug 2005 : 15:23:25
Just wanted to add...
...if you are running the "Age of Worms" series from the current Dungeon issues, then this could be a great way to insert Kyssus into the FR. Add him as some lost god of Nethril, Narfelli, or other cult that was destroyed ages ago. |
| The Sage |
Posted - 30 Jul 2005 : 11:41:07
quote:
Originally posted by RAKKIR
17: Borem (Spelling? Who is this? "The Sage" suggests a demipower of Anger killed by Bane, Bhaal, and Myrkul possibly during Netherese times or during the survivor state eras? Bowed before Bane before being killed?)
[...]
According to "The Sage" we have:
1: Maram of the Great Spear (Bowed before Bane)
2: Haask, Voice of Hargut (Bowed before Bane)
3: Tyranthraxus the Flamed One (LE, DP of magical fire, domination (Gehenna?) bowed before Bane.)
4: Borem of the Lake of Boiling Mud (See above.)
5: Camnod the Unseen (Bowed before Bane)
6: The Dark God (NE, LP of eternal darkness, cold, decay, enfeeblement, paralysis (Astral Plane/dying) Possibly an aspect of Tharizdun)
I should point out that these were just idle speculations, and were never intended to reflect the canon interpretation which had already been established by Eric's C&D WE.
I was just playing around with the concept of the dead gods. The correct listing is as Kuje originally pointed out.
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| Thauramarth |
Posted - 30 Jul 2005 : 08:30:16
quote:
Originally posted by RAKKIR
So, in summation we have the following dead (or greatly reduced in worship) gods.
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30: Maanzecorian (Who is this? Wasn't this one involved with Psionic powers worshipped in Jhaamdath? I think Serpent Kingdoms or Lost Empires of Faerun has info on this.)
31: Jazirian (Who is this?)
According to DMGR4 - Monster Mythology, Maanzecorian is a mind flayer power, wwhose portfolio included knowledge and philosophy. Maanzecorian was killed by Tenebrous (Orcus's alias, after he came back from the dead) in the Planescape Adventure "Dead Gods".
Jazirian was also featured in DMGR4 - Monster Mythology, he/she/it is the god of the Couatl. In "A Guide to Hell", Jazirian is one of the two creator powers (the other being Asmodeus). |
| Wooly Rupert |
Posted - 29 Jul 2005 : 19:42:17
Well, as mentioned in my preivous post, six of the seven lost gods are known. I'd forgotten that bit, earlier. So that's likely as official an answer as we're going to see for a while. |
| Kuje |
Posted - 29 Jul 2005 : 19:24:33
We gave you the official answer, and it's in the web enhancement I mentioned and Wooly quoted. :) |
| RAKKIR |
Posted - 29 Jul 2005 : 18:05:53
So, in summation we have the following dead (or greatly reduced in worship) gods.
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1: Moander (Almost assurededly one of the seven.)
2: Garagos (Suggested by George Krashos. Not dead, just reduced in power.)
4: Bhaal (Too recent to be one of the seven.)
5: Shundakul (Suggested by Eric Boyd. Seems to be having a resurgance at least according to Faiths and Pantheons where he is is listed within the more important deities section.)
6: Jergal (Suggested by Eric Boyd. Not dead, serves Kelemvor)
7: Ghaunadaur (Suggested by Eric Boyd. Seems to be having a resurgance in recent FR materials where he is given more promenence)
8: Bane (Too recent to be one of the seven and back now anyways.)
9: Myrkul (Too recent to be one of the seven and surving now anyways though not as a "god" anymore. Doesn't want to return to Godhood status.)
10: Karsus (Only achieved divinity momentarily. I don't think he counts)
11: Mystryl (Reincarnated as Mystra. -MAYBE- one of the seven.)
12: Tyche. (Split into Tymora and Besheba. Probably not one of the seven.)
13: Murdane (Consort to Helm. Destroyed in Lathander's Dawn Cataclysm. Possibly one of the seven.)
14: Iyachtu Xvim (Not one of the seven. Really a sentient "contingency" for Bane)
15: Leira (Can't remember, did Cyric kill her again?)
16: Ibrandul (Killed recently by Shar. Not one of the Seven.)
17: Borem (Spelling? Who is this? "The Sage" suggests a demipower of Anger killed by Bane, Bhaal, and Myrkul possibly during Netherese times or during the survivor state eras? Bowed before Bane before being killed?)
18: Auppenser (Who is this?)
19: Eshowe (Chultan Pantheon. Not one of the seven.)
20: Re (Mulharondi Panteon. Not one of the seven. Killed by Gruumsh)
21: Inanna (Untheric Pantheon, not one of the seven.)
22: Girru (Untheric Pantheon, not one of the seven.)
23: Ki (Untheric Pantheon, not one of the seven.)
24: Marduk (Untheric Pantheon, not one of the seven.)
25: Nanna-Sin (Untheric Pantheon, not one of the seven.)
26: Nergal (Untheric Pantheon, not one of the seven.)
27: Utu (Untheric Pantheon, not one of the seven.)
28: Gilgeam. (Killed by Tiamat right? But too recently to be one of the seven.
29: Valigan Thirdborn (Jhaamdathan god of Anarchy slain by Tyr. Possibly one of the seven.)
30: Maanzecorian (Who is this? Wasn't this one involved with Psionic powers worshipped in Jhaamdath? I think Serpent Kingdoms or Lost Empires of Faerun has info on this.)
31: Jazirian (Who is this?)
32: Amaunator (Died from lack of worship. Then there is the belief that Lathander -may- be somehow related to him. Like an aspect that survived.)
33: Herne. (Killed by Malar long ago. Probably not one of the seven.)
34: Simbul. (A lost diety of the Yuirwood elves)
35: Ulitu (Spelling on that. A giant god. The one God who slumbers in the great glacier.)
Possibly lost gods whose divinity status is not known. Known however to NOT be of seven whether divine or not. According to "The Sage" we have:
1: Maram of the Great Spear (Bowed before Bane)
2: Haask, Voice of Hargut (Bowed before Bane)
3: Tyranthraxus the Flamed One (LE, DP of magical fire, domination (Gehenna?) bowed before Bane.)
4: Borem of the Lake of Boiling Mud (See above.)
5: Camnod the Unseen (Bowed before Bane)
6: The Dark God (NE, LP of eternal darkness, cold, decay, enfeeblement, paralysis (Astral Plane/dying) Possibly an aspect of Tharizdun)
We also have:
1: The Yuirwood Gods only one of which is known.
2: The demipowers Talos has sponsered and then drained to nothingness.
Don't suppose if I put out an appeal to someone "official" that I'll be able to get the definitive anser right?
Thanks all, please clarify the above if you can and add to it as well.
Thank you! |
| Wooly Rupert |
Posted - 29 Jul 2005 : 00:46:57
quote:
Originally posted by Kuje
The Cloak & Dagger web enchancement describes who they really are.
Ah, yes, you are correct. From the timeline for the city of Westgate:
quote:
927 DR Year of the Red Rain
Fed up with the excesses of both the Reaver King and the Prince-Templars who proceeded him, the merchant nobility of Westgate secretly hires another army of mercenaries to over throw Gostaraj in turn. The heads of the various noble houses choose Altarl Campion, the head of a powerful merchant family, as Westgate’s next king.
As his first official act, King Altarl bans all organized religious activity within the city walls, and all existing temples are torn down, their land seized in the name of the new king. The Templeban Edict extends beyond the city walls as well, permitting only simple shrines within a day’s walk of Westgate.
In the nine decades that follow, no less than seven rings of standing stones are established on a ring of seven hillocks just beyond the last rise west of the city. One such site, the Hill of Fangs, is established by worshipers of Moander. The Abomination’s hilltop shrine consists of a ring of eight great red stone plinths shaped like fangs curving inwards. The other faiths include Garagos, Ghaunadaur, Jergal, Savras, Silvanus, and one whose name has been forgotten. Unbeknownst to the general populace of Westgate, secret subterranean temples are established beneath most (or all) of the seven hillocks, as well as in the catacombs of the city itself, in direct violation of the Templeban Edict.
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| Kuje |
Posted - 29 Jul 2005 : 00:01:23
The Cloak & Dagger web enchancement describes who they really are. |
| Wooly Rupert |
Posted - 28 Jul 2005 : 23:09:20
Drawing from the FAQ on this very site, we find this info:
quote:
George Krashos and Eric Boyd have both opined on the matter:
George:
The matter of the Seven Lost Gods has always been one of Eric's pet FR conundrums, and without pre-empting his inevitable contribution to this thread, I believe the Seven Lost Gods should include the following:
1. Jergal
2. Garagos
3. Moander
4. Shaundakul
5. Ghaunadar
Note that this leaves two slots free, and I have some idea as to which gods I'd put in, but the fact is that there is no 'canon' answer to this question. Put in any "old" gods you like - heck, make up some gods that have been slain or have died due to loss of worship/neglect. Also in Off-List discussion, the tie between Westgate and the Seven Lost Gods has been discussed. We know little of the history of Westgate and we don't even know who or what first colonised the area. Suggestions in regard to the nation that first founded Westgate have centered mostly on Jhaamdath (sp?) - the nation first discussed in LOI and EotSS. What gods did the nation of Jhaamdath worship? It seems that FR conundrums never go away.... :)
Eric:
First a bit of background:
The novel "Azure Bonds" revealed that there were seven hills with rings of stone plinths south and west of Westgate. One of these hills, the Hill of Fangs, was firmly associated with Moander.
In an off-hand reference in one of Ed's novels, there is a reference to the "Seven Lost Gods." I can no longer find this reference, but I know its out there somewhere. (If you find this reference, please let me know the source and page number.)
When I was working on the Major Centers of Worship write-up in Moander's write-up in F&A, I linked the two, and now the "Seven Lost Gods" are firmly tied to the seven hills outside of Westgate.
In "Ruins of Myth Drannor", just before the discussion of Shaundakul, there is a discussion of "old" gods whose worship is faded. This discussion mentions that the cult of Garagos was once strong in Westgate and that Savras was once venerated as the god of worshipers in the South.
In "Prayers from the Faithful," we learn that Silvanus was once venerated in a vanished woodland south and west of the city of Westgate.
I recently learned about five heretofore-unknown names of gods who "bowed down before Bane." This is mentioned in the book that accompanied the old "Pools of Radiance" computer game.
So, who are the Seven Lost Gods?
Only Moander is an absolute given, as noted above.
Garagos, and to a lesser extent, Savras, seem like likely candidates given their geographic centers of interest.
Given that "Lost" seems to imply "gods whose worship has declined significantly and who may or may not be dead", I might add the following deities to the list:
Jergal and Ghaunadaur. (Jergal, while not dead, has certainly vanished from the perspective of most humans of Faerun. Ghaunadaur seems like a good candidate because he attracts only a few cultists, and he's dark, sinister, and evil.)
Other possibilities include Silvanus (because of that PftF reference) and Shaundakul (although the latter's base was farther north, around Myth Drannor.)
The five names from the computer game "Pool of Radiance" are interesting candidates as well. One theory I'm considering is that the "current" Seven Lost Gods were venerated outside of Westgate several centuries ago. However, their temples were built atop the ruins of an earlier civilization, and that realm's temples were dedicated to seven truly lost and forgotten deities. Maybe the five names mentioned in "Pool of Radiance" were of that civilization, and their "bowing down to Bane" occurred when the Father of Xvim was in his ascendance long, long ago.
Alfred Hailey added:
It's not a given that the five names mentioned in "Pool of Radiance" were actually gods - Tyranthraxus was a special daemon who appeared in two adventures. Properly though, they were:
Maram of the Great Spear
Haask, Voice of Hargut
Tyranthraxus the Flamed One
Borem of the Lake of Boiling Mud
Camnod the Unseen
For a more complete roster of fallen deities, check out the Dead Gods thread. |
| Forge |
Posted - 28 Jul 2005 : 21:59:54
What about Bast? Or is she not eligible due to being subsumed into Shar?(I think it was Shar)
Or are you only thinking of FR pantheon? |
| ode904 |
Posted - 28 Jul 2005 : 21:52:22
Bhaal.
Bane.
I don't now remember other names, I was on holiday trip so i have forgotten much.. :( |
| Lashan |
Posted - 28 Jul 2005 : 18:37:42
I know the lost three were listed either on this site or the official page. I can't recall if you have it right, but I don't think so. Most of these were for smaller gods that were big around Nethril's time. I don't think they are cults to gods that split or turned into other gods. That eliminates Tyche and Mystryl. Bhaal is too current to be considered, since the Lost Gods were lost before Bhaal was. Karsus wasn't really a god in the sense that he would have a religion around him.
The old storyline that details the Pool of Radiance (also "Ruins of Adventure") talks about some minor divine figures that Bane defeated, but doesn't necessarily say killed. I do believe one of the lost ones is <somebody> of the boiling mud from that gang. |
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