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| Squick |
Posted - 26 May 2005 : 13:42:51
Can anyone please point me to the definitive source (whether online or in print) of the Border Kingdoms. I would very much like to run a campaign centred on the Lake of Stream and I am gathering as much info about the environs. |
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| The Sage |
Posted - 04 Sep 2007 : 13:49:16
The PDF for Elminster Speaks is pretty much it, in terms of compilations of FR articles at WotC.
Of course, I've [sorry, we've  ] got our own compilations for all the others! 
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| Lady Kazandra |
Posted - 03 Sep 2007 : 00:59:24
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage
It runs on a lot of hard work.
In fact, the only consistent thing about SageOS, the only thing you can completely rely on when it comes to SageOS... is that it'll always be full of errors! 
That's funny. I always thought it ran through the power of a mouse running round and round one of those little wheels!
On a slightly related topic, have any of the other "Forgotten Realms" articles published on the main-site of WOTC ever been compiled into PDF format? "Elminster Speaks" was, if I remember correctly . . . I just don't recall any others.
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| Markustay |
Posted - 01 Sep 2007 : 18:55:24
Hopefully WotC are just holding back because they would rather SELL us the material in the new DI.
I expect to see much of what we've been waiting for cropping up in their new version of Dungeon/Dragon Magazines.
And since that is being kept under wraps, it could easily be tied into Ed's multiple NDA's.
I feel sorry for the guy - imagine being the man with an entire planet's worth of information swimming around in your head, and NOT being able to legally talk about it?
I'd be frustrated as all hell. 
P.S. - Do deepspawn create NDA's? |
| Kajehase |
Posted - 31 Aug 2007 : 14:59:55
I've got them all in one big zonking word-file myself. Been waiting with creating a .pdf until it gets finished... |
| The Sage |
Posted - 30 Aug 2007 : 01:29:36
It runs on a lot of hard work.
In fact, the only consistent thing about SageOS, the only thing you can completely rely on when it comes to SageOS... is that it'll always be full of errors!
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| Markustay |
Posted - 30 Aug 2007 : 01:24:08
So what does SageOS run on, an Abacus? |
| The Sage |
Posted - 30 Aug 2007 : 00:59:19
There's very likely to be a "master" version [being a collection of hand-written or printed articles] in Ed's basement. But aside from the original articles included in POLYHEDRON, the updated entries in Power of Faerûn, and Ed's efforts to include the BK material [with further updates] online at WotC, I don't think we've ever had access to a "master" version of ALL the 'Border Kingdoms' articles. Which, for me, is a real shame, because it's one of my favorite regions of the Realms! 
I've compiled most of that into a convenient PDF-style document that works well under SageOS. I'm not sure whether it'll function as well under Windows and/or MacOS, depending upon your own home system. And given that the articles published online have yet to be finished, it would be difficult for WotC to compile them and include them all in a PDF for download. They'll likely wait until the series is finished.
I'll see about converting my version into something that can function under alternate OS. Then I'll get back to you.
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| scererar |
Posted - 30 Aug 2007 : 00:56:21
I tried to find the same on the WOTC site, but was not able to. This would be great if someone here has done that or knows where to find it. |
| Purple Dragon Knight |
Posted - 30 Aug 2007 : 00:48:47
Dear Scribes: does any of you know if there exists a "master" version of the Border Kingdoms articles? I wish to have them all under one big document instead of multiple downloads.
Any help would be much appreciated! |
| Lysander |
Posted - 04 Jun 2005 : 04:03:08
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage
Actually, I've often thought that some of the lesser principalities would make fine additions to the Border Kingdoms area of the Realms -- with notable alterations to the material of course  .
Of course, but when aren't there alterations to the material? |
| The Sage |
Posted - 04 Jun 2005 : 03:51:47
Actually, I've often thought that some of the lesser principalities would make fine additions to the Border Kingdoms area of the Realms -- with notable alterations to the material of course .
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| Lysander |
Posted - 04 Jun 2005 : 03:35:29
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage
Nice way to end such a law-filled post Lysander .
Thankyew, thankyew, I'll be here all week.
It was better than ranting about my morning. By the end of it, I was almost ready to forment rebellion and set up my own Border Kingdom!   |
| The Sage |
Posted - 04 Jun 2005 : 03:18:13
Nice way to end such a law-filled post Lysander .
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| Lysander |
Posted - 04 Jun 2005 : 02:52:26
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One
Or play with what you're given.
Seriously, Ed wants to say something about this topic in the worst way, but can't.
The moment he can, I'm sure he'll tell me.
If I loosen his bonds enough, that is.
love,
THO
P.S. Now I have to scamper back to Ed and play Hide The Whip again. 
LOL... Well, the quickest way I know to circumvent an NDA is a retainer agreement - after all, there's not a court I can think of that would barrel through attorney-client confidences to find for the NDA holder. Though, there'd have to be a retainer agreement first... and I'm not licensed in Canada. Know people who are who'd associate me in (after all, I'm down the road from the USPTO...) but, that'd really just help me, unless, of couse, Ed does need some good 'ol Virginian Legal Advice.
Anyways, confidences or not, I'm realllly not all that sure I want to know where that whip was hidden. Or interfere.
(and to keep Big Al happy:)
When Ed can speak, or, more accurately, when he's able and you let him let us know.
Lysander, Esq.
Atty, Solicitor, Barrister, and Counsellor at law. |
| The Hooded One |
Posted - 04 Jun 2005 : 02:38:24
Or play with what you're given.
Seriously, Ed wants to say something about this topic in the worst way, but can't.
The moment he can, I'm sure he'll tell me.
If I loosen his bonds enough, that is.
love,
THO
P.S. Now I have to scamper back to Ed and play Hide The Whip again. |
| Lysander |
Posted - 03 Jun 2005 : 19:17:17
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One
I sent this thread to Ed for his comment, but all that he could tell me, struggling against the stern iron bondage of many, many NDAs, was: "Meep! MEEP!"
love to all,
THO
I thought you were the only one allowed to use bondage on Ed...
Well, she IS the Hooded ONE. The NDAs were "many, many". Thus and ergo, THO is the only ONE allowed thus.
(No, my arguments are much better than that; you only can work with what you're given though.)
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| Wooly Rupert |
Posted - 03 Jun 2005 : 17:53:21
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One
I sent this thread to Ed for his comment, but all that he could tell me, struggling against the stern iron bondage of many, many NDAs, was: "Meep! MEEP!"
love to all,
THO
I thought you were the only one allowed to use bondage on Ed... |
| The Hooded One |
Posted - 03 Jun 2005 : 15:28:20
I sent this thread to Ed for his comment, but all that he could tell me, struggling against the stern iron bondage of many, many NDAs, was: "Meep! MEEP!"
love to all,
THO |
| The Sage |
Posted - 03 Jun 2005 : 14:34:07
quote:
Originally posted by Squick
I have come across Noble Knight Games, and they seem to have every copy of Polyhedron mentioned by Faraer (thanks for that BTW), which I might very well get.
Kuje is a strong proponent of Noble Knight games, and with very good reason, as I'm starting to realise myself.
And the Border Kingdoms articles are definitely worth every gold piece. Truly inspiring Realmslore...  .
quote:
Isn't it weird though, that this material hasn't been integrated into any of the 3E books?
Krash pretty much already stated why such material has never seen any true publication, but I'm sure every scribe here who has read these articles will agree whole-heartedly with you .
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| Squick |
Posted - 03 Jun 2005 : 10:05:19
Thanks Sage (for that link), anything is helpful. I've got the 3.5E Shining South and it isn't very helpful concerning the Border Kingdoms. I have come across Noble Knight Games, and they seem to have every copy of Polyhedron mentioned by Faraer (thanks for that BTW), which I might very well get.
Isn't it weird though, that this material hasn't been integrated into any of the 3E books? |
| TomCosta |
Posted - 02 Jun 2005 : 17:27:15
Oh, yeah. Thanks. It's been so long, I forgot about that one.... |
| The Sage |
Posted - 01 Jun 2005 : 01:53:12
The Black Bouquet features the town of Oeble.
Tom, you also wrote the piece on the town for the WotC FR Novel archives.
Squick, you may also find Tom's information on Oeble useful.
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| TomCosta |
Posted - 31 May 2005 : 21:52:10
I believer you're right. I think the 3.5E Shining South does have a half page or so on the Border Kingdoms, but your best bet is still Ed's articles. Also, one of the rogue novels takes place in Oeble -- sorry blanking on the name. |
| Mumadar Ibn Huzal |
Posted - 31 May 2005 : 21:29:45
I thought that the 3.5e Shining South tome had a little on the Border Kingdoms as well... then again, it has been a while that I looked into it. |
| TomCosta |
Posted - 31 May 2005 : 18:43:19
The lands to the north of the Lake of Steam are best covered in the 2E Empires of the Shining Sea (which also does a great job of collecting the lore up to that point on the region from sources like the Vilhon Reach and elsewhere). Since then, you're best source is the 3E FRCS and possibly Races of Faerun. |
| The Sage |
Posted - 28 May 2005 : 03:42:22
Mostly the south.
The Border Kingdoms rest around the southern shores of the Lake of Steam.
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| Jindael |
Posted - 28 May 2005 : 03:22:56
Do those articles cover the land just north of the Lake of Steam? I'd love to get my hands on those. |
| Faraer |
Posted - 27 May 2005 : 19:03:28
For the sake of people trying to obtain these issues, the Polyhedrons with the Border Kingdom articles are 109–111, 115–121, 123–148.
It's now getting on for four year that we've been waiting for the rest of the series. Too long. |
| Squick |
Posted - 27 May 2005 : 07:35:27
Thanks for all the practical advice. It just kind of bothers me to know that such material exists, but it's such a bitch to get hold of. 
And George, does your selfless generosity extend to Kiwis? |
| The Sage |
Posted - 27 May 2005 : 07:19:53
quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos
Oh, and Dargoth & Sage, I haven't forgotten about you - the p/copies sit in my study: I just have to get to a PO and get a box big enough to fit the 'delivery'. I'll get my act together soon - promise.
That's great to hear .
And, I didn't think you had forgotten, I just know that you're busy with other concerns, as well as with your committments to the Realmslore. As always, I appreciate the assistance from my fellow Australians .
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