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| king-tiax |
Posted - 26 Aug 2002 : 22:00:03
In my time in faerun I have Travled the lands and I can't decide what is the best location a hevily armed Dwarven Mine like Dorns Deep or an hidden Elven Citey like Suldernesalar.
Daveron: My name is Daveron, I would ask yours but I don't care to become aquainted with the dead.
BG1. |
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| Stout Heart |
Posted - 25 Sep 2008 : 01:15:26
Did Citadel Felbar get destroyed? because I'm looking at the 4E map and it's not there. They don't mention Ardbar but it's still on the map Mirrabar as well btu I see no sign of old Felbar. |
| Vangelor |
Posted - 22 Sep 2008 : 12:41:49
Elf "city", please, if by "city" you mean a widespread area in which elves make a lasting abode among the trees and other natural growth, augmented with carefully selected plantings of useful and attractive flora, gently re-directed streams, cascades and pools, in which they create arms an armor the equal or better of any dwarven craft, and hone magic arts beyond the understanding of shorter-lived (or, for that matter, simply shorter) folk. ;)
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| Wooly Rupert |
Posted - 22 Sep 2008 : 03:25:51
In terms of appearance, and where I'd prefer to live, given the choice, I'd pick an elven city -- particularly one that was mostly in the trees and off the ground. If I had to pick a place to defend, however, I'd go for the dwarven stronghold.
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| ShadezofDis |
Posted - 18 Sep 2008 : 17:19:30
I'd have to go with Gildenglade. An elven city on top of a dwarven stronghold!
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And damn, this is the most impressive thread necromancy ever! |
| bitter thorn |
Posted - 16 Sep 2008 : 18:22:11
I have to go with the Dwarven Stronghold. I'm confident that they will have the best stout ales! |
| Alisttair |
Posted - 16 Sep 2008 : 12:13:54
Sweet....this thread is like a fine wine....better with age...
So on topic then, a Dwarven Stronghold is far superior. Why, the trolls have been barricading themselves within the Wailing Dwarf for nigh unto a century and more before finally being made an example of by a race far more sinister... (cue the super evil music..."da da dum")
If only the dwarves knew how to tap the weave better before the whole Thunder Blessing... |
| Leon_Stryfe |
Posted - 16 Sep 2008 : 00:55:31
Indeed, I have to go with a Dwarven stronghold. While both have their ups and downs, I would say that the Dwarven stronghold would be much easier to defend, especially against enemies that stand above 5 1/2 feet tall. |
| TheEasilyDiseased |
Posted - 15 Sep 2008 : 01:24:53
Solmyr,
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In the third book of the last mythal, at the end, Araevin say that he may search out lamruil's hidden city and put his talents to use there, and help with raising a mythal if they are doing that in the city. So if there is a novel in the future featuring lamruil's hidden city Araevin may be there, and will probably have influenced their decision of raising a mythal since there may not have been enough, or any high mages with lamruil.
I always thought that a Dwarven stronghold would be better than an Elven city in the case of a siege, as it's probably much better protected, eg, Built into a mountain with only one entrance available. |
| Fhaorn quessir |
Posted - 16 Feb 2008 : 17:31:12
Oh, dearly sorry. I did not realize the date on that post. Well I shall try not to make such a fool out of myself again.
Regards,
Fhaorn'quessir |
| Wooly Rupert |
Posted - 16 Feb 2008 : 03:27:48
Mother of Lurue, this is the oldest scroll I've seen resurrected! Look at the URL -- this is topic 27. And we're at up to least 10600 by now!  |
| The Sage |
Posted - 16 Feb 2008 : 02:33:36
Errr... Fhaorn, the scribe you are referring to hasn't visited Candlekeep in over 5 years. It's more than likely he's forgotten about this discussion and has since moved on. This is, after all, a very old scroll.
So, let's move on shall we? 
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| Fhaorn quessir |
Posted - 16 Feb 2008 : 02:12:27
quote:
Originally posted by The Great Drizzt
Well, if you could spell DEFENSE right, then maybe you might have a valid point!
The Great Drizzt
You really should not take the name "The Great Drizzt". You are not great in any shape or form. If you did not have to be 13 or older to sign up for this sight, I would think you were younger than that (pretending to be a dark elf and all that). Also I would correct you on an earlier post that Menzoberranzan is not the largest Drow city.
Menzoberranzan has a population of 32,000, where as Sshamath, a city led by male heretics of Vhaeraun, is larger with a population of 45,000. I would have to also state against you in your idea that drow are elves, thus classifying them together with surface elves. The two factions make bitter war on eachother to no end, and many a time the surface elves look to the dwarves for aid against drow ; sometimes even vice versa (despite the stubborness and pride of the dwarves, preventing them from asking for help very much).
"The Great Drizzt", I would reccomend you to change your name (Drizzt rejects drow culture, and is calm and slow to speak. You, on the other hand, are very quick to post rude comments and seem to have an affinity for the drow), and if you are looking for more people of your canon to talk to, take a shot at the Barrens chat, on World of Warcraft. |
| Alaundo |
Posted - 18 Nov 2002 : 19:43:26
Ahem.....Well Met
Now lets not get into a correct\incorrect spellings debate of the ENGLISH language
Lets get this topic back on track as it often keeps running out of steam and is already in danger of being locked up.........and i might just lock it whilst you lot are trapped inside!!  |
| The Defence Minister |
Posted - 18 Nov 2002 : 17:40:03
Actually DEFENCE is the corret spelling (according to every dictionary in my house) and DEFENSE is the US Slang - so my opinion is valid 
TDM |
| The Great Drizzt |
Posted - 18 Nov 2002 : 08:31:43
Well, if you could spell DEFENSE right, then maybe you might have a valid point!
The Great Drizzt |
| The Defence Minister |
Posted - 14 Nov 2002 : 20:12:23
LOL God some of these threads go off topic .
I have to vote Dwarven Stronghold. Airy-Fairy Magical cities just don't do it for me (I have not interest in Waterdeep). I like the down to earth rock solid Dwarven defences and artillary.
TDM
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| The Great Drizzt |
Posted - 04 Nov 2002 : 08:14:08
I agree whole heartedly Darwin
The Great Drizzt |
| Darwin Tenderfoot |
Posted - 03 Nov 2002 : 21:25:51
Jefferey Williams I respectfully disagree whith your opinion. You are basing all Elves on the few that are like that and I personally dont think that is right.
Darwin |
| The Great Drizzt |
Posted - 29 Oct 2002 : 07:16:21
Elves should rule, and they cant be as bad as you say, or else they wouldnt be around still.
You might wanna re-think the thought of going over to Tiax's house, its probably built like a Dwarven Stronghold! lol j/k Tiax
The Great Drizzt |
| Jeffrey Williams |
Posted - 26 Oct 2002 : 06:53:59
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Originally posted by The Great Drizzt
 ....How can you not like us Fey folk? We rule, and in the book "Elminster in Myth Drannor", it says that it was all Elves, Elminster, the Shrinshee, and some of their "Chosen Protectors" so... <snip>
Myth Drannor is the reason why elves should not rule. Arrogance in their own superiority blinded them to enemies that wait in the shadows.
Elves at their worse are arrogant, distrustful of all non-elves and they refuse to clean up the mess they make. They delegate such "duties" to non-elves. This makes them perfect xenophobes and racists. This is why I do not play standard elves in the D&D game. 
I like dwarves. They have good homes, low in height by human standards, but they make a good lodger and strong beer. 
King-tiax, I'd liek to come to your house.
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| sushisauce |
Posted - 25 Oct 2002 : 22:15:10
Elven city. Dwarven strongholds are ugly but they work. Still, elven cities are cool and easily defendable. I'd rather be stuck in an elven citie during a battle than a dwarven stronghold. |
| king-tiax |
Posted - 25 Oct 2002 : 19:00:55
Year, Elves are resoursful (especialy Drow), perhaps they could have managed without my people. |
| The Great Drizzt |
Posted - 25 Oct 2002 : 06:34:11
....How can you not like us Fey folk? We rule, and in the book "Elminster in Myth Drannor", it says that it was all Elves, Elminster, the Shrinshee, and some of their "Chosen Protectors" so maybe your right, there might have been a Dwarf or 2 in the "Protectors", though it seems very hard to swallow, they didnt even want Elminster helping, plus the fact that dwarves arent very accomplished mages to my knolage, so thats also a key factor why I don't think any Dwarves helped, Illogical, but not impossible!
The Great Drizzt |
| Jeffrey Williams |
Posted - 24 Oct 2002 : 23:33:07
[quote]Originally posted by king-tiax
In my time in faerun I have Travled the lands and I can't decide what is the best location a hevily armed Dwarven Mine like Dorns Deep or an hidden Elven Citey like Suldernesalar.
Hurmff! Spoken like a true northern dwarf. A dwarven paper merchant (with a thick dalesland accent) was kind enough to supply me with a travel brochure and a sparkling green gemstones. I felt a strange energy and moments later I was inside a great canyon rift called Dwarves' Deep. Although the brochure, a second edition Forgotten Realms accessory, was deeply detailed it failed to illustrate my strong and recenntly adpoted dwarven brethern. If you ever get a chance to check out Dwarves' Deep or find a second-hand copy, do so. It is the best dwarven settlement anywhere on Faerun.
I can say I don't like Elves or Drow that much. Personally, they are arrogant on one extreme and cruel on the other. But my favorite city is Myth Drannor. It is a detailed city/dungeon with horrors, forgotten treasures, and the remnants of beauty long lost.
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| king-tiax |
Posted - 24 Oct 2002 : 22:10:39
A Dwarf is capable of disguising himself to great affect, they do also th there strongholds. |
| Darwin Tenderfoot |
Posted - 24 Oct 2002 : 12:43:05
I thought that Cormanther was different than Myth Drannor and yes some Dwarves did help build it. If you want to know a little more on Myth Drannor just read "Pool of Radiance"(the new one.) And I guess if Cormanther and Myth Drannor are the same then you could read "Cormanther: a novel". Oh, my favorite settelment would have to be Mithral Hall. Elven would have to be Evermeet(spelling?).
Darwin |
| The Great Drizzt |
Posted - 24 Oct 2002 : 06:53:26
Ok, from what I know, First it was called Cormanthor, and only Elves, and Elminster lived there, and when the Mythal was completed, they allowed everyone else into it and changed it's name to Myth Drannor, so when it WAS called Myth Drannor, all the races were in there, so technically, not only Elves created Myth Drannor, but the Elves, and only Elves besides Elminster, created Cormanthor, to bad Myth Drannor fell, but it was the fact that they let everyone else in there, well, that and the fact that a gateway to the Abyss opened up right outside the city gates, and the city was over run, looted, and then destroyed.
The Great Drizzt |
| Shades |
Posted - 22 Oct 2002 : 19:05:16
Wasn't Myth Drannor built by a collection of races,though mainly elves, because I think something I read said dwarves also had a hand in helping build it. Correct me if I'm wrong please. |
| Frey |
Posted - 22 Oct 2002 : 12:33:46
The beauty of a dwarven deep dolven city ... The beauty of an elven stronghold ...
A suggestion: (re)read LOtR (I know, it's not FR, but it's good), where this discussion leads to new perspectives for both elves AND dwarves, for the benifit of both races.
IMHO there's little to add after that. |
| The Great Drizzt |
Posted - 22 Oct 2002 : 08:57:35
What you say is very true.
But, I myself like the Elven folk, especially the Drow
The Great Drizzt |
