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EltonRobb Posted - 13 May 2025 : 20:33:03
Been reading the Dalelands by Rich Baker. He says Archendale has the largest army in the Dales. I'm wondering if Warmages can be trained in Archendale (it's not as detailed as Shadowdale, though). Thoughts?
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Athreeren Posted - 16 May 2025 : 18:47:05
That's where Ask Valhaeria would be useful. Does anyone know where Italian Archmage Karsus left the latest version?
EltonRobb Posted - 16 May 2025 : 17:06:08
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Originally posted by sleyvas

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Originally posted by EltonRobb

[quote]Originally posted by Galuf the Dwarf

Eytan Bernstein covered Warmages (as well as Favored Souls in the same article) in the Realms a while back. Don't know if that article can be retrieved.



I noticed that the Realms Wiki linked to it. I didn't follow the link, though.



That is a setback.

Not a big one, though.
sleyvas Posted - 16 May 2025 : 13:45:55
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Originally posted by EltonRobb

quote:
Originally posted by Galuf the Dwarf

Eytan Bernstein covered Warmages (as well as Favored Souls in the same article) in the Realms a while back. Don't know if that article can be retrieved.



I noticed that the Realms Wiki linked to it. I didn't follow the link, though.



that sucks. I tried the link and its gone. Threw it in the wayback machine and it found one time for 2024, and that was a blank page.
EltonRobb Posted - 16 May 2025 : 02:09:05
quote:
Originally posted by Galuf the Dwarf

Eytan Bernstein covered Warmages (as well as Favored Souls in the same article) in the Realms a while back. Don't know if that article can be retrieved.



I noticed that the Realms Wiki linked to it. I didn't follow the link, though.
Galuf the Dwarf Posted - 15 May 2025 : 19:06:01
Eytan Bernstein covered Warmages (as well as Favored Souls in the same article) in the Realms a while back. Don't know if that article can be retrieved.
sleyvas Posted - 15 May 2025 : 12:49:43
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Originally posted by EltonRobb

quote:
Originally posted by sleyvas

I don't see why not. The "traditional" story on warmages is that it started as an elven tradition, and they're right on the border of the elven court. I wouldn't be surprised to see some elf or half-elf that didn't go to Evermeet living there and training people in the art. I in fact wouldn't say that there's much of anywhere in the realms for the most part that couldn't easily shoehorn in the idea that there's someone there that isn't a traditional wizard and is training warmages. It doesn't need to be a university and could just be warmage and apprentice(s).



I also figured that the Warmage base class can replace the War Wizard prestige class. Just realized that now.



Not really ... warmages are pretty much pure evokers. War wizards are wizards. Cormyrian War Wizards do a LOT more than just blast stuff.
TBeholder Posted - 14 May 2025 : 20:26:41
Why? They are fairly typical Dales folk.
Per Wizards & Rogues of the Realms, Archendale wizards' benefit is bonus skill (fishing or herbalist), and disadvantage Charisma penalty -2 when dealing with folk from outside their Dale, due to local prideful attitudes and reputation of arrogance (which sticks to the wizards in particular as naturally aloof to some degree).
EltonRobb Posted - 14 May 2025 : 18:47:06
quote:
Originally posted by sleyvas

I don't see why not. The "traditional" story on warmages is that it started as an elven tradition, and they're right on the border of the elven court. I wouldn't be surprised to see some elf or half-elf that didn't go to Evermeet living there and training people in the art. I in fact wouldn't say that there's much of anywhere in the realms for the most part that couldn't easily shoehorn in the idea that there's someone there that isn't a traditional wizard and is training warmages. It doesn't need to be a university and could just be warmage and apprentice(s).



I also figured that the Warmage base class can replace the War Wizard prestige class. Just realized that now.
sleyvas Posted - 14 May 2025 : 13:28:46
I don't see why not. The "traditional" story on warmages is that it started as an elven tradition, and they're right on the border of the elven court. I wouldn't be surprised to see some elf or half-elf that didn't go to Evermeet living there and training people in the art. I in fact wouldn't say that there's much of anywhere in the realms for the most part that couldn't easily shoehorn in the idea that there's someone there that isn't a traditional wizard and is training warmages. It doesn't need to be a university and could just be warmage and apprentice(s).
Klack of the Soul Posted - 13 May 2025 : 22:33:16
I don't know much about the Dales. I have read the 3rd edition campaign setting and Volo's guide to the Dales. There didn't seem to be any big reason they couldn't.

Archendale was described as very militaristic, so I think they have the right temperament to accept a military force of mages in their society. They have come into conflict with Sembian and Thayian forces in the past, so I think that gives them a motive to bolster their army with magic users.

The main obstacle I see is the dale's relatively small population, but that depends on how you handle "the Gift" in your world. Homegrown mages might be hard to come by if you follow Ed Greenwood's ratios. Archendale is described as wealthy, so they might be able to recruit foreign mages.

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