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Seethyr Posted - 12 Jan 2025 : 17:09:50
Do we have any official confirmation of encounters and interactions between the Sarrukh, Batrachi or Aearee with primordials? Or even any reasonable speculation? All I can really think of is Bazim Gorag and Zoukodien but then again, I have no idea what Bazim-Gorag is officially today? Is he slaad (according to Dungeon he was, GHotR he wasn’t), primordial? Batrachi himself?
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Seethyr Posted - 12 Jan 2025 : 22:49:02
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Originally posted by Zeromaru X

The time of the primordials was way before the time of the sarrukh, so unless they worshiped Ubtao (something I doubt), there was no interaction between sarrukh and primordials.

That said, according to some sarrukh records found in the ruins of Okoth, and echoed in the legends and history books of the people of Laerakond (aka Returned Abeir), the batrachi unleashed a lot of sealed primordials into the world in the last years of the Days of Thunder, causing the Tearfall and the crisis that eventually "sundered" Abeir from Toril.

I don't think the aearee interacted with any primordials, unless they worshiped Akadi.

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Originally posted by Seethyr

I have no idea what Bazim-Gorag is officially today? Is he slaad (according to Dungeon he was, GHotR he wasn’t), primordial? Batrachi himself?



Bazim-Gorag started as a slaad or a batrachi (or some combination of them, lol), but later evolved into a primordial somehow. Is the only known case of a creature becoming a primordial that I'm aware of. My theory is that it has something to do with the Pandemonium Stone.



Very informative response, thank you. I live and die by the GHotR - did anyone ever estimate and of the major events of 4e applied to the DR timeline? I mean, did Abeir split off in -50,000 DR? -500,000? I hope they don’t use one of the “time was different back then and no one can quite tell” copouts. I find it really important when designing adventures to have a grip on when things occurred.
Zeromaru X Posted - 12 Jan 2025 : 19:01:22
The time of the primordials was way before the time of the sarrukh, so unless they worshiped Ubtao (something I doubt), there was no interaction between sarrukh and primordials.

That said, according to some sarrukh records found in the ruins of Okoth, and echoed in the legends and history books of the people of Laerakond (aka Returned Abeir), the batrachi unleashed a lot of sealed primordials into the world in the last years of the Days of Thunder, causing the Tearfall and the crisis that eventually "sundered" Abeir from Toril.

I don't think the aearee interacted with any primordials, unless they worshiped Akadi.

quote:
Originally posted by Seethyr

I have no idea what Bazim-Gorag is officially today? Is he slaad (according to Dungeon he was, GHotR he wasn’t), primordial? Batrachi himself?



Bazim-Gorag started as a slaad or a batrachi (or some combination of them, lol), but later evolved into a primordial somehow. Is the only known case of a creature becoming a primordial that I'm aware of. My theory is that it has something to do with the Pandemonium Stone.

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