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| LWhitehead1 |
Posted - 12 Sep 2022 : 08:50:49
Um I've got a problem, it's for my homebrew world and setting, I need Demi Human Deities, but all I can find is for FR.
I need these deities for my setting,
LW
Mod edit: Found this one floating in the ethers and relocated it. |
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| Wooly Rupert |
Posted - 19 Sep 2022 : 05:20:39
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Originally posted by Azar
When it comes to Dragonlance, I'm generally fond of that setting's machinery...with one major exception: not only it is centered around the notion that Good in abundance becomes Evil (that whole "The balance between good and evil." literary convention), but Evil doesn't become Good when it is similarly prolific. Good must always be mindful of overreaching, but Evil is always free to cut loose (be their presence writ small or writ large).
For me, one of the most problematic aspects of that whole Balance thing was the noble draconians. Okay, cool, regular draconians are good dragon eggs corrupted to evil. That's fine. Noble draconians are evil dragon eggs, but because of Balance, they come out good. Ah, okay... But wait! Despite this, Takhisis still gets to screw with them, and makes them have nightmares of evil dragons. Paladine doesn't get to do that with regular draconians, but hey, that's okay, for reasons.
Of course, the whole Cataclysm, and then waiting 300 years for people to come back around -- interesting idea, but wow, there are some issues, there!
(It's still better than what the Sartan did in the Death's Gate Cycle, but that doesn't make it any less problematic... I don't know if it's one or both authors, but someone in that duo is a huge fan of one of more main characters having a crisis of faith. It's a recurring element in their books, and even in at least one series I've read that Margaret Weis did without Tracy Hickman) |
| Azar |
Posted - 19 Sep 2022 : 00:02:18
When it comes to Dragonlance, I'm generally fond of that setting's machinery...with one major exception: not only it is centered around the notion that Good in abundance becomes Evil (that whole "The balance between good and evil." literary convention), but Evil doesn't become Good when it is similarly prolific. Good must always be mindful of overreaching, but Evil is always free to cut loose (be their presence writ small or writ large). |
| Wooly Rupert |
Posted - 18 Sep 2022 : 17:43:31
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Originally posted by LordofBones
Krynn? Whenever Lathander looks back on the Dawn Cataclysm or Corellon on the Downfall of Lolth, they console themselves with thoughts of "at least I'm not Paladine."
Krynn was my introduction to D&D game settings, but looking back at it, now, I really don't care for its divine setup.
(And the most recent novel makes it clear Astinus is Gilean, which to me begs the question of why a deity would need any secondary aids to keep track of events around the world. We already knew Raistlin made him a scrying orb of some sort, and from the most recent novel we also know that some of the Ascetics were traveling back in time to observe prior events... There's also a question of why, if he did need that scrying device, he didn't get one made thousands of years before. I love Weis & Hickman, but sometimes I question elements of their writing) |
| TheIriaeban |
Posted - 18 Sep 2022 : 15:19:05
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Originally posted by LordofBones
quote:
Originally posted by Azar
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
So with the exception of Krynn
I can imagine the Seldarine knocking on Krynn.
"Let us in! Buncha backwater snobs..."
Krynn? Whenever Lathander looks back on the Dawn Cataclysm or Corellon on the Downfall of Lolth, they console themselves with thoughts of "at least I'm not Paladine."
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Originally posted by LordofBones
90% of the non-human racial powers are multispheric and worshipped outside the realms. I assume that humans are a sort of template race that other deities decided to copy, which is why you have multiple human pantheons, while the nonhuman pantheons either made their worshipers in their image or were made in the image of their worshipers.
Or whatever goofy lore they have for the kuo-toa nowadays, since apparently "Blibdolpoolp is basically what a kuo-toa Lovecraftian deity would look like" is somehow less interesting than "kuo-toa are idiots."
The kuo-toa stuck a lobster head on a human statue and started worshipping it.
And claws, too. Can't forget them. VERY important, having those claws. Balances out the whole look.  |
| LordofBones |
Posted - 18 Sep 2022 : 09:39:45
quote:
Originally posted by Azar
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
So with the exception of Krynn
I can imagine the Seldarine knocking on Krynn.
"Let us in! Buncha backwater snobs..."
Krynn? Whenever Lathander looks back on the Dawn Cataclysm or Corellon on the Downfall of Lolth, they console themselves with thoughts of "at least I'm not Paladine."
quote:
Originally posted by LordofBones
90% of the non-human racial powers are multispheric and worshipped outside the realms. I assume that humans are a sort of template race that other deities decided to copy, which is why you have multiple human pantheons, while the nonhuman pantheons either made their worshipers in their image or were made in the image of their worshipers.
Or whatever goofy lore they have for the kuo-toa nowadays, since apparently "Blibdolpoolp is basically what a kuo-toa Lovecraftian deity would look like" is somehow less interesting than "kuo-toa are idiots."
The kuo-toa stuck a lobster head on a human statue and started worshipping it. |
| Azar |
Posted - 15 Sep 2022 : 23:37:15
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
So with the exception of Krynn
I can imagine the Seldarine knocking on Krynn.
"Let us in! Buncha backwater snobs..." |
| sleyvas |
Posted - 15 Sep 2022 : 20:16:33
let me mirror Seethyr here and recommend Aulddragon's works. I will say though that Aulddragon does try to stay away somewhat from deities added after 2nd edition.
You might also want to look at the various "races of" books from 3rd edition (i.e. races of stone, races of the wild, etc...), as they include some extras as well. Also, if you just want a list...
https://annex.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_Forgotten_Realms_deities |
| Seethyr |
Posted - 15 Sep 2022 : 19:13:06
AuldDragon’s Monster Mythology is the most comprehensive work that covers literally every deity, organized by culture, ever in D&D history. You cannot get more thorough than this if you don’t want to do anything yourself.
https://www.thepiazza.org.uk/bb/viewtopic.php?t=5493
https://blog.aulddragon.com/monster-mythology-update/ |
| Demzer |
Posted - 15 Sep 2022 : 14:04:38
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Originally posted by LordofBones
Or whatever goofy lore they have for the kuo-toa nowadays, since apparently "Blibdolpoolp is basically what a kuo-toa Lovecraftian deity would look like" is somehow less interesting than "kuo-toa are idiots."
What happened to old Blippy? |
| LordofBones |
Posted - 14 Sep 2022 : 15:44:40
90% of the non-human racial powers are multispheric and worshipped outside the realms. I assume that humans are a sort of template race that other deities decided to copy, which is why you have multiple human pantheons, while the nonhuman pantheons either made their worshipers in their image or were made in the image of their worshipers.
Or whatever goofy lore they have for the kuo-toa nowadays, since apparently "Blibdolpoolp is basically what a kuo-toa Lovecraftian deity would look like" is somehow less interesting than "kuo-toa are idiots." |
| The Masked Mage |
Posted - 13 Sep 2022 : 13:28:07
The only other source for AD&D would be monstrous mythology from 2nd E. There are some demihuman gods there that are not in demihuman Deities. In old D&D there were the Immortals, which was basically a whole different rules set for god-level beings. |
| LWhitehead1 |
Posted - 12 Sep 2022 : 22:28:31
I'm going to use them, 5th D&D mention this fact as well which will make easier for my homebrew setting.
LW |
| Wooly Rupert |
Posted - 12 Sep 2022 : 11:21:03
The gods of the demihumans are pan-spheric and are worshipped on most worlds where that particular race can be found.
So with the exception of Krynn, on any world with elves, the Seldarine will likely be worshipped there. And so on.
You've two choices: Use those deities, or make up your own. |
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