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| sleyvas |
Posted - 03 Apr 2021 : 17:36:55
I just put out a new DM's Guild product that covers a lot of unusual topics
https://www.dmsguild.com/product/352561/United-Tharchs-of-Toril--Secret-Cities--Strange-Skyships-of-Anchorome?src=newest_community&filters=45469_0_0_0_0_0_0_0
but one of them I think could be a particularly fun concept for players who love Forgotten Realms HISTORY. It's the concept of a living construct race for players, but one in which its NOT a warforged, helmed horror, or nimblewright looking creation. You are a magen, but a magen which has memories of an earlier life, usually as a great archmage from one of the great fallen empires that were around when the time of Netheril was around (so Jhaamdath, Narfell, Raumathar, Calimshan, Mulhorand, Unther, etc...). However, as a player, you start out at first level with MEMORIES... vague ones... of being extremely powerful. You just lack all of those skills that you once held, and perhaps you WANT to recover them, or MAYBE you see this as a way to change your life around. The thing being with this concept is to explore ancient societies, develop some lost ancient history, etc.... with your character without having to have the whole story up front.... because your character is still foggy on what he remembers. The one thing you know for certain is that you were involved with a netherese enclave that went to Anchorome that was cosmopolitan enough to have spellcasters from cultures all over the world at the time.... and somehow you died there.
So, with that base concept out there... just for discussions sake, I'd like to ask, what would YOU do with it? |
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| sleyvas |
Posted - 09 Apr 2021 : 02:07:23
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Originally posted by TBeholder
Magens are... pseudo-flesh golems/simulacra constructs from Mystara?
quote:
Originally posted by sleyvas
It's the concept of a living construct race for players, but one in which its NOT a warforged, helmed horror, or nimblewright looking creation. You are a magen, but a magen which has memories of an earlier life, usually as a great archmage from one of the great fallen empires
So, that thing Giant Space Hamster of Ill Omen asked about?
The question, however, is how much those are "their own" memories.
Simulacra have copies of the original, Alias had fake "memories" created. Then there was Nybor's mind-cloning process for enchanted items...
On the other eyestalk, transfer of a pre-existing lifeforce into a construct was done. Those magen are known to sometimes wind up possessed by fiends on creation. And Realms has not only helmed horrors, but a canon example of successful lifeforce transfer into a pre-existing golem, so that instead of an elemental it had a dwarf's spirit "driving".
Yes, the concept that there are these magen that are created in a way like other magen, but that its easier to make them because you're sucking in the soul of someone captured in a special cavern. They can only be created in one spot, and the spell to be used is taught to the person by a udoxias crossed with a mythallar, and they can only cast the spell once (it uses their life force in some unusual way that they can never cast the spell again).
So, mortal casts spell, faeros magen created from soul captured in cavern, fully grown but with only vague memories of their past life.
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| TBeholder |
Posted - 08 Apr 2021 : 21:40:57
Magens are... pseudo-flesh golems/simulacra constructs from Mystara?
quote:
Originally posted by sleyvas
It's the concept of a living construct race for players, but one in which its NOT a warforged, helmed horror, or nimblewright looking creation. You are a magen, but a magen which has memories of an earlier life, usually as a great archmage from one of the great fallen empires
So, that thing Giant Space Hamster of Ill Omen asked about?
The question, however, is how much those are "their own" memories.
Simulacra have copies of the original, Alias had fake "memories" created. Then there was Nybor's mind-cloning process for enchanted items...
On the other eyestalk, transfer of a pre-existing lifeforce into a construct was done. Those magen are known to sometimes wind up possessed by fiends on creation. And Realms has not only helmed horrors, but a canon example of successful lifeforce transfer into a pre-existing golem, so that instead of an elemental it had a dwarf's spirit "driving". |
| Gyor |
Posted - 04 Apr 2021 : 19:00:43
quote:
Originally posted by sleyvas
I just put out a new DM's Guild product that covers a lot of unusual topics
https://www.dmsguild.com/product/352561/United-Tharchs-of-Toril--Secret-Cities--Strange-Skyships-of-Anchorome?src=newest_community&filters=45469_0_0_0_0_0_0_0
but one of them I think could be a particularly fun concept for players who love Forgotten Realms HISTORY. It's the concept of a living construct race for players, but one in which its NOT a warforged, helmed horror, or nimblewright looking creation. You are a magen, but a magen which has memories of an earlier life, usually as a great archmage from one of the great fallen empires that were around when the time of Netheril was around (so Jhaamdath, Narfell, Raumathar, Calimshan, Mulhorand, Unther, etc...). However, as a player, you start out at first level with MEMORIES... vague ones... of being extremely powerful. You just lack all of those skills that you once held, and perhaps you WANT to recover them, or MAYBE you see this as a way to change your life around. The thing being with this concept is to explore ancient societies, develop some lost ancient history, etc.... with your character without having to have the whole story up front.... because your character is still foggy on what he remembers. The one thing you know for certain is that you were involved with a netherese enclave that went to Anchorome that was cosmopolitan enough to have spellcasters from cultures all over the world at the time.... and somehow you died there.
So, with that base concept out there... just for discussions sake, I'd like to ask, what would YOU do with it?
Interesting, I like it. |
| sleyvas |
Posted - 03 Apr 2021 : 20:04:47
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Originally posted by TheIriaeban
Pre- or Post-end of gnome slavery? Because an ex-gnome slave magen hunting down other magen for revenge sounds interesting. Imagine watching some archmage or group of archmages torture your family into being spriggans? Those could be some pretty nasty "flashbacks" and great motivators for finding the guys that did it.
Well, I haven't hard set the date for the fall of the enclave, and the people in the enclave would have their souls trapped in a crystal cavern after the fall.... but let's pretend the enclave fell as a result of Karsus' folly and therefore it would be in the years immediately following Karsus' folly.
I like your idea of magen on magen conflict. One concept I've been playing with was that during the time they were in Abeir, one faeros magen actually gets the spirit of Karsus himself drawn into it, or believes it to be Karsus, reviving the cult of Karsus. |
| TheIriaeban |
Posted - 03 Apr 2021 : 19:43:40
Pre- or Post-end of gnome slavery? Because an ex-gnome slave magen hunting down other magen for revenge sounds interesting. Imagine watching some archmage or group of archmages torture your family into being spriggans? Those could be some pretty nasty "flashbacks" and great motivators for finding the guys that did it. |
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