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keftiu Posted - 28 Dec 2019 : 03:56:08
Looking for stuff with less than a paragraph on them.

I'm currently fixated on the conflict between the aarakocra and avariel of the post-Spellplague Adder Hills (a chain of earthmotes) in Chessenta. Literally a single line of text in a Dungeon article, and no prior establishment of either group that I can find. Love it.
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Arivia Posted - 21 Apr 2020 : 22:16:51
quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos

The Sorceress in Gray from Volo's Guide to All Things Magical.

-- George Krashos



Dammit George that was going to be mine! She was the very first thing I EVER asked Ed about.
Delnyn Posted - 19 Apr 2020 : 22:59:14
quote:
Originally posted by ericlboyd

Obscure Realms references like the name of the language For High Infernal.



I believe "Mabrahoring" is the term. The spelling is probably butchered.
VikingLegion Posted - 12 Jan 2020 : 13:57:51
Who originally built the The Citadel of the White Worm, which eventually was settled by the Disciples of St. Sollars who now call it the Monastery of the Yellow Rose?

Who is Barroch the Bandit Lord?
keftiu Posted - 08 Jan 2020 : 09:00:21
Okay, I have my new favorite answer: a LFR adventure features a keep unstuck in time, where the party can briefly meet a band of adventurers from the year 2421 DR. They are a human, a half-dwarf, a "tree elf" (described as an elf or eladrin with leaves that cover half of her green-skinned body), a svirfneblin, and a choker. It's wild!
tmcvicar2 Posted - 05 Jan 2020 : 15:56:41
quote:
Originally posted by Nilus Reynard

More information about Laogzed, the demipower worshipped by the troglodyte race. You can find a small entry about him on the FR wiki, but that's about it.



Auld Dragon has a piece about Laogzed on his blog.The blog is aweome in general, btw.

http://blog.aulddragon.com/2017/08/laogzed-the-devourer/
TBeholder Posted - 05 Jan 2020 : 10:16:00
Also, were there details on Aerilaya? Especially what she did that she had to leave the continent?
Kentinal Posted - 04 Jan 2020 : 18:32:57
quote:
Originally posted by AJA


Speaking of both "niche" and "irrelevant," did we ever find out who wrote Filfaeril, Bound and Willing?





Manshoon is the author of Filfaeril, Bound and Willing

http://forum.candlekeep.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=18725&whichpage=5

at least according to the above link.
AJA Posted - 04 Jan 2020 : 17:54:50

Speaking of both "niche" and "irrelevant," did we ever find out who wrote Filfaeril, Bound and Willing?

Wooly Rupert Posted - 04 Jan 2020 : 16:40:32
I just thought of another bit of niche lore that I really, really like -- my idea for the Claws of Varanyx, an enemy of the Cult of the Dragon, was based on the oft-overlooked fact that the potion that turns a dragon into a dracolich has a 10% chance of just flat-out perma-killing the dragon.
Nilus Reynard Posted - 04 Jan 2020 : 07:48:24
No, I didn't have that. Thank you for posting that. It will help me with using him in future campaigns.
Brimstone Posted - 04 Jan 2020 : 03:56:48
You do have this from Auld Dragons Monster Mythology scroll
Dalor Darden Posted - 04 Jan 2020 : 01:54:25
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

He's got a half page in Monster Mythology.



Unfortunately it doesn’t really expand the information much except to say he eats all the time.
Wooly Rupert Posted - 03 Jan 2020 : 21:09:50
He's got a half page in Monster Mythology.
Nilus Reynard Posted - 03 Jan 2020 : 19:34:12
Yeah, that's about all I was able to find as well. If I want more for use in a campaign, I may have to make it up as I go.
Dalor Darden Posted - 03 Jan 2020 : 17:26:10
Not much on ol’ stinky:

quote:
LAOGZED
Demigod

ARMOR CLASS: 0
MOVE: 15”
HIT POINTS: 187
NO. OF ATTACKS: 1
DAMAGE/ATTACK: 6-60
SPECIAL ATTACKS: Stinking cloud
SPECIAL DEFENSES: Poison
MAGIC RESISTANCE: 29%
SIZE: L (10’ tall)
ALIGNMENT: Chaotic evil
WORSHIPER'S ALIGN: Chaotic evil (troglodytes)
SYMBOL: Image of the god
PLANE: Abyss
CLERIC/DRUID: 15th level cleric using only harmful spells
FIGHTER: As 16+ HD monster
MAGIC-USER/ILLUSIONIST: Nil
THIEF/ASSASSIN: Nil
MONK/BARD: Nil
PSIONIC ABILITY: Nil
S:21 (+4, +9) I: 18 W: 17 D: 19 C: 19 CH:-2

Troglodytes worship the disgusting Laogzed, a vile being whose appearance suggests both toad and lizard. Laogzed's oozing skin is covered with loose patches of dead flesh. The liquid on his skin is an acidic poison; any creature touching it takes 3-18 points of damage and must save vs. poison at -4. Weapons or other objects touching it must save vs. acid or be destroyed. Laogzed can exhale a stinking cloud at will. His huge mouth is lined with many rows of needle-sharp teeth; he bites for 6-60 points of damage.

The most important rites in the worship of Laogzed are always held far below ground at Midwinter. At this time, troglodytes gather together for the ritual of the Shedding of Skins, where the trogs (who grow throughout their lives) remove their old, dull skins, and then sacrifice these husks to Laogzed. Troglodyte shamans can work up to the 3rd level of clerical ability.


There is a little more in a module but I can’t remember which.
Nilus Reynard Posted - 03 Jan 2020 : 06:58:27
More information about Laogzed, the demipower worshipped by the troglodyte race. You can find a small entry about him on the FR wiki, but that's about it.
George Krashos Posted - 03 Jan 2020 : 04:34:18
quote:
Originally posted by Ayrik

I think we need more backstory about "Thunderstorm" (known to some as "Dûd Onahorz").
He must be epic and iconic - his tale must somehow be important in Realmslore - how else could he singularly grace the cover of the legendary Old Grey Box?
Few might know his name, but many will instantly recognize his heroic countenance.



Not to toot my own horn, but tell me if this fits the bill:

https://www.dmsguild.com/product/253569/Yahdi-al-Alamat-the-Hand-of-Doom

-- George Krashos
AJA Posted - 03 Jan 2020 : 01:52:18

My favorite irrelevant bit of the moment would be of the Company of the Cleaver, who returned from Undermountain with a giant silvery snail and proceeded to ride it around Castle Ward. Where did that snail come from, and where did it go afterwards? And how many street urchins (and City Watchmen) got to ride on it and dream of their own fantastic adventures?

quote:
Originally posted by Ayrik
He must be epic and iconic - his tale must somehow be important in Realmslore - how else could he singularly grace the cover of the legendary Old Grey Box?

Not sure just how far your tongue is in your cheek here but for me what I love of the Realms is not the "epic" and "important" figures, but in the fact that it could be any random person on that cover, and that everyone has a story and goals and aspirations, not just the high and mighty (and uber-leveled). Dûd is indeed epic in his own way, but so is "Horseman by the Lake" (Keith Parkinson's title for the piece).

Dalor Darden Posted - 02 Jan 2020 : 22:20:43
Krashos did a piece on him for DMs Guild
Ayrik Posted - 02 Jan 2020 : 21:43:42
I think we need more backstory about "Thunderstorm" (known to some as "Dûd Onahorz").
He must be epic and iconic - his tale must somehow be important in Realmslore - how else could he singularly grace the cover of the legendary Old Grey Box?
Few might know his name, but many will instantly recognize his heroic countenance.
Asharak Posted - 01 Jan 2020 : 16:05:21
The Kabuayan Wars in Kara-Tur Box Set
Seravin Posted - 31 Dec 2019 : 13:29:16
quote:
Originally posted by keftiu

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

Susprina Arkenneld was a character seen in exactly one source: the intro to FOR2 The Drow of the Underdark. Despite the fact that we know nothing at all about her, I still find her intriguing and want to know more.

Also from that book, I am particularly fascinated with the fact that drow can have really spiffy prosthetics -- to the point that I made an NPC drow, based on a GI Joe figure, using that bit of lore.



What does it say about her?

And that latter thing is really cool. Disability representation can be even rarer than queer material in fiction, so I'm very curious. Does it say anythinf about what they're like?

The only other prosthesis I know are the crystal plangents of 4e Durpar.



The City on the Hill novel in the Cities series has a protagonist who is missing most of one arm; he is treated badly by citizens and even the temples in Eltural (spelling) because of it). It's not much of a disability representation I suppose, but he goes through an arc and eventually overcomes his disability in a way?

On topic of the post - I see a lot of amazing lore bits every time Ed or Jeff Grubb put pen to paper (especially together). I would say that my faves are in the City write ups of Forgotten Realms Adventures where they have local lore. Much goodness is to be had there!

A character I read about in one of those sections is on a character named Salvarad - a wearer of the purple in Saerloon who is briefly mentioned in Spellfire as worshipping Talos, but then in this book he is worshipping Shar and Cyric and level 20 (now) - said to be one of the most powerful forces for evil loose in the Dragonreach. Love that hook.
sleyvas Posted - 30 Dec 2019 : 15:00:29
quote:
Originally posted by Zeromaru X

quote:
Originally posted by sleyvas


As a somewhat heretical idea.... prior to this edition, the aarakocra LOOKED different (at least I believe they did look different still in 4e). They had wings but no arms (they had hands on their wings). If there is ONE thing that the spellplague kind of "showed" its that there was a way to modify a people such that they all start to be the same (i.e. tieflings). What if the Aarakocra in Chessenta picked up old Aearee lore and some powerful magic ritual.... and used some avariels who died as a result.... to give them separated arms and wings like the avariels have just prior to the Sundering? What if they only uncovered this information because ancient sarrukh or batrachi lore came to Chessenta/Unther/Mulhorand as a result of the spellplague? Then when the sundering happened, this miracle of magic spread to their entire race.




The aarakocra in 4e are as you describe them, but I don't know if they apply to Realmslore, as the only aarakocra ported to 4e were in the Dark Sun Creature Catalog sourcebook.

As for the tieflings, they weren't transformed by the Spellplague, they were created by a ritual that took place during the Time of Troubles (as revealed in The Devil You Know novel). However, this doesn't affect your theory, as the Spellplague did change the race of some creatures (it happened to Clytemorrenestrix --one of the characters from the God Catcher novel--, a former blue dragon who was transformed into a human by the Spellplague).



Good points. Sometimes my mind thinks along the lines of "editions" because "it happened in this edition so it would be after X occurred". Still, what we do know is that for a long time, Avariels and Aarakocra were noted in entries as being amiable. Now they're not. Privately, I'll also note that avariels are little seen in the realms, but if this is true, then where they are involved, they have a kind of big impact... the king killer star ritual being one thing... possibly a ritual that modifies aarakocra.... hell, I wouldn't be surprised if they were somehow involved with the corruption of Auril.
Zeromaru X Posted - 29 Dec 2019 : 16:08:13
quote:
Originally posted by sleyvas


As a somewhat heretical idea.... prior to this edition, the aarakocra LOOKED different (at least I believe they did look different still in 4e). They had wings but no arms (they had hands on their wings). If there is ONE thing that the spellplague kind of "showed" its that there was a way to modify a people such that they all start to be the same (i.e. tieflings). What if the Aarakocra in Chessenta picked up old Aearee lore and some powerful magic ritual.... and used some avariels who died as a result.... to give them separated arms and wings like the avariels have just prior to the Sundering? What if they only uncovered this information because ancient sarrukh or batrachi lore came to Chessenta/Unther/Mulhorand as a result of the spellplague? Then when the sundering happened, this miracle of magic spread to their entire race.




The aarakocra in 4e are as you describe them, but I don't know if they apply to Realmslore, as the only aarakocra ported to 4e were in the Dark Sun Creature Catalog sourcebook.

As for the tieflings, they weren't transformed by the Spellplague, they were created by a ritual that took place during the Time of Troubles (as revealed in The Devil You Know novel). However, this doesn't affect your theory, as the Spellplague did change the race of some creatures (it happened to Clytemorrenestrix --one of the characters from the God Catcher novel--, a former blue dragon who was transformed into a human by the Spellplague).
sleyvas Posted - 29 Dec 2019 : 14:20:41
Regarding the aarakocra in Chessenta mentioned above... some things that might also help are in Old Empires. I've suspected that the tuuru are an Aearee experiment back from when they were developing the wyvern (this would be a hypothesis based on later developed work). The number of dinosaurs in Unther and the Kenku that are relatively nearby may also have some relation to these Aarakocra.

As a somewhat heretical idea.... prior to this edition, the aarakocra LOOKED different (at least I believe they did look different still in 4e). They had wings but no arms (they had hands on their wings). If there is ONE thing that the spellplague kind of "showed" its that there was a way to modify a people such that they all start to be the same (i.e. tieflings). What if the Aarakocra in Chessenta picked up old Aearee lore and some powerful magic ritual.... and used some avariels who died as a result.... to give them separated arms and wings like the avariels have just prior to the Sundering? What if they only uncovered this information because ancient sarrukh or batrachi lore came to Chessenta/Unther/Mulhorand as a result of the spellplague? Then when the sundering happened, this miracle of magic spread to their entire race.


From Old Empires
The Riders to the Sky
This mountain chain is on the southeastern border of Chessenta. These are mostly hills ranging between 3,000 and 5,000 feet in height. On the southern end are a number of cliffs that are home to the tuuru, a race of giant birdlike lizards (pteranodons).

Legends exist that in ancient days these huge birds were used as mounts by the warriors of Unther. Given the size, weight, and strength of the pteranodons, it is doubtful that they could support a human rider; either larger varieties once existed or the legend is a hoax.

There are also the ruins of an ancient aarakocra civilization on the slopes, but this tribe was hunted to extinction a century ago for sport by mercenaries from Chessenta.

ericlboyd Posted - 29 Dec 2019 : 14:15:57
Obscure Realms references like the name of the language For High Infernal.
George Krashos Posted - 29 Dec 2019 : 13:44:59
The Sorceress in Gray from Volo's Guide to All Things Magical.

-- George Krashos
AuldDragon Posted - 29 Dec 2019 : 06:02:36
For me, it's the offhand-reference to loxoth being Spelljamming immigrants, which didn't get any mention in Spelljamming material. I've always wanted to know more about the sphere they're from (although I resist connecting them with giff) and the nature of their ships.

Jeff
TBeholder Posted - 29 Dec 2019 : 02:27:35
quote:
Originally posted by keftiu

And that latter thing is really cool. Disability representation can be even rarer than queer material in fiction, so I'm very curious.
Ah. Then you may also be interested in Clacker from the Dark Elf trilogy/The Legacy of the Drow .

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

All we know about Susprina Arkenneld is that she was hanging out with Elminster.

Good Old Ed also confirmed she is indeed related to Calimar Arkhenneld.

quote:
Originally posted by shades of eternity

The entire cheese section in Aurora's Whole Realms Catalog. :p

Wasn't cheeeese plot relevant in comics?
AJA Posted - 29 Dec 2019 : 02:06:07

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
All we know about Susprina Arkenneld is that she was hanging out with Elminster.

Way to bury lop off the lede there, Wooly.

All we know about Susprina Arkenneld is that she was hanging out with Elminster butt-nekkid in his cowpond.


While he watched and had a smoke.


You know, as you do if you're a female with even the slightest passing acquaintance with the Old Goat.



(Oh, and also that she was also his "onetime apprentice")




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