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sleyvas Posted - 25 Jan 2017 : 13:52:07
So, I've seen that some guy had developed 3d models of a bunch of monster manual monsters and released them for free. I've also seen that a lot of 3d software can scale to different sizes. I've always had this kind of strange idea that I wanted to try, but I can't find any 3d models of a faerie dragon. I'd seen solar garden lights that are of butterfly wings, and I just wanted to try putting those on a resin faerie dragon and paint it up. I think they'd look awesome as fence post toppers, or on the top of light posts, etc... I've even played with the idea of buying a 3d printer that can scan stuff and maybe scanning some porcelain cast dragons. Has anyone seen any 3d models out there that would work as a faerie dragon?
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CMH Posted - 29 Jan 2017 : 19:41:48
Last time I looked a printer like that was over a $1000.

I guess I need look at 3D printers again.

As to the question about smell It depends on the printer, most that I've looked at don't smell to bad, but they are printing hot plastic so their is some smell and most printers don't have anything to limit the smell.

If you need more information their are bunch of hobby sites for 3D printing and as I mentioned before companies like shapeways allow you upload designs and both order and sell them in a variety of materials.
sleyvas Posted - 29 Jan 2017 : 03:12:26
quote:
Originally posted by CMH

Glad you like my work.

What I know about XYZprinters, it's a cheap easy to use printer but last time I

looked it was is limited in the materials, sizes and the level of details it could

achieve, of course thats true for most printers that are less than $1000

but I should note that 3D printers are evolving fast, and new and better models are coming out every year.



I do take requests to make things if you don't think your up to making something yourself.





The one I'm looking at is the "xyzprinting da Vinci 1.0 Pro 3-in-1" and the price just dropped $200 in the last 3 weeks since I started looking.... weird, its now $699 on amazon. Its got a 7.8" x 7.8" x 7.8" work area, 3d scan ability, and I can add on a laser engraver for $199. It also takes third party filaments... not sure how big of a deal that is. I'm thinking that would be big enough for anything I might want to play with... so maybe I'm coming into the market at around the right time...

On the offer of making something, I WILL keep that in mind, as despite everything I'm not an artist and I've never touched 3d design software (normally only working in things like visio for network diagrams, etc...).

Oh, one last question.... this seems odd, but when I was looking up the difference between PLA and ABS plastics (still don't get much about the difference) one of the things they mentioned was the smell of 3d printing. How bad is this, because the girlfriend is kind of picky?

CMH Posted - 28 Jan 2017 : 17:56:49
Glad you like my work.

What I know about XYZprinters, it's a cheap easy to use printer but last time I

looked it was is limited in the materials, sizes and the level of details it could

achieve, of course thats true for most printers that are less than $1000

but I should note that 3D printers are evolving fast, and new and better models are coming out every year.



I do take requests to make things if you don't think your up to making something yourself.

sleyvas Posted - 28 Jan 2017 : 14:20:48
quote:
Originally posted by CMH

Hello I was checking out candlekeep when I saw your post.

If I may make a suggestion you might check out some online printing

companies before buying a printer, like shapeways or sculpteo, I have

used both to make miniatures and jewelry and found them easy to use and reasonably priced.

shapeways also provide free software downloads and instruction for amateurs on 3D modeling.

My shop if your curios https://www.shapeways.com/shops/artscape



Wow, you really have some nice stuff. A lot of snazzy decorative pieces that could be put on the wall or a shelf. After looking at it, it makes me think making a "Realms Coin Collection" would be interesting.

Just wondering, since you've at least played with a 3d printer, have you heard anything bad about xyzprinting's printers?

For the mods, I know this isn't really realms relevant, so if you need me to shut up, just let me know.
CMH Posted - 27 Jan 2017 : 23:09:29
Hello I was checking out candlekeep when I saw your post.

If I may make a suggestion you might check out some online printing

companies before buying a printer, like shapeways or sculpteo, I have

used both to make miniatures and jewelry and found them easy to use and reasonably priced.

shapeways also provide free software downloads and instruction for amateurs on 3D modeling.

My shop if your curios https://www.shapeways.com/shops/artscape
sleyvas Posted - 27 Jan 2017 : 02:54:13
quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

I think its still cheaper to poly-cast your own stuff, but that works better for larger pieces, and is only cost-effective if you are building armies.

If I were going to make something to top fence-posts, I would probably do the original in clay (I'm a far better sculptor then I am 2d artist), make a mold off of that, and then cast them in plaster (and if it looked lucrative, then maybe do a 'lost wax' process in bronze, which would be pretty damn nifty).

And then, considering I have some awesome electrical skills as well, I could make the eyes glow at night (using solar), or maybe have them perched atop a glowing 'crystal' (really just clear plastic, but at that point my post-caps are no longer 'just bronze' LOL).

But instead I'll just stay poor (and humble lol) and type stuff on internet sites, 'cause I'm lazy and am an epic-level underachiever.



It seems yet again, we're thinking a lot alike. I however can't draw a straight line to save my soul, so carving anything in clay would be horrid. I am pretty good at tweaking things on the computer though, even if slow. Anyway, I keep coming back to this idea for some reason that I can't answer myself. I guess I'll be buying a printer soon and maybe I'll even find a good use for it.
sleyvas Posted - 27 Jan 2017 : 02:49:27
quote:
Originally posted by Mirtek

Afaik there are still two types of 3D printers:

Those which are affordable and those capable of enough detail to print 25/28/32mm scale tabletop miniatures

In other words no reasonably priced printer will yield results that don't disappoint and those that can still cost thousands

The cheaper ones may make decent dungeon walls, flours and furniture, but thats their limit



Well, actually, what I'm looking to make isn't exactly a "mini". I'd like to make a faerie dragon that's say big enough to hold in both hands. I was thinking yard decoration, mailbox decoration, fence decoration, fountain decoration type stuff. In addition to the idea of faerie dragon's with solar butterfly wings, I was also thinking actual faeries with the same. I've seen the solar butterfly wings on butterflies at Walmart, I was just thinking to myself "hmmm, you could use them on something else and it'd be cute". So, it doesn't need to be able to do a lot of fine detail. I was also thinking 3d print the "master copy" then play with molding putty to make something where you could plaster cast or something to make cheaper copies.... or make metal castings for more durability, etc...

That being said, I've never done anything remotely like this. I've been looking at some 3d printers from xyzprinting (one for $549, one for $899) that say they'll let you 3d scan a model, so I was thinking it could be a fun toy. I could possibly scan in a ceramic dragon and then tweak said scan to look more like I want (maybe remove existing batlike wings, etc...). However, I've never done anything at all with 3d modeling, so that might be hell for all I know.
Markustay Posted - 26 Jan 2017 : 20:50:42
I think its still cheaper to poly-cast your own stuff, but that works better for larger pieces, and is only cost-effective if you are building armies.

If I were going to make something to top fence-posts, I would probably do the original in clay (I'm a far better sculptor then I am 2d artist), make a mold off of that, and then cast them in plaster (and if it looked lucrative, then maybe do a 'lost wax' process in bronze, which would be pretty damn nifty).

And then, considering I have some awesome electrical skills as well, I could make the eyes glow at night (using solar), or maybe have them perched atop a glowing 'crystal' (really just clear plastic, but at that point my post-caps are no longer 'just bronze' LOL).

But instead I'll just stay poor (and humble lol) and type stuff on internet sites, 'cause I'm lazy and am an epic-level underachiever.
Ayrik Posted - 26 Jan 2017 : 20:39:06
Today's "cheap" 3D printers are capable of adequate detail for producing 25mm-tall people. Although not quite the sort of fine detail (like "finely" textured chainmail or hairstyle) you'd see on cast lead figs, the sort of surface detail you wouldn't really see without close scrutiny and a skillfully "washed" paint job. I've seen battlemechs fresh off a Dremel printer which looked far more detailed (bolts, rivets, and plates, wispy antennae, etc) than most commercial metal mechs. And you can always use ye olde precision knife blade to manually detail your figs, lol.

http://www.3ders.org/articles/20160223-rough-and-tumble-3d-print-your-very-own-fantasy-board-game.html
Mirtek Posted - 26 Jan 2017 : 13:17:15
Afaik there are still two types of 3D printers:

Those which are affordable and those capable of enough detail to print 25/28/32mm scale tabletop miniatures

In other words no reasonably priced printer will yield results that don't disappoint and those that can still cost thousands

The cheaper ones may make decent dungeon walls, flours and furniture, but thats their limit

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