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| The Cardinal |
Posted - 29 Feb 2004 : 23:27:29
We have been kicking around this thought for quite sometime. We have thought of arguements for all sides and have reached a stalemate. So We send out a cry for aid in this idea. Can a Surface elf give praise to Lolth/Lloth? And would Lolth/Lloth look up on the elf as a fool, a useful tool, or simply ignore them?
We thank thee for thy time and consideration  |
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| AlacLuin |
Posted - 17 May 2006 : 17:42:17
Ok, I was mostly pointing to that a mention is in F&P.
The rest of my post was just... well.... "extra" anyway.  |
| Kuje |
Posted - 17 May 2006 : 17:21:43
quote:
Originally posted by AlacLuin
quote:
Originally posted by Drakul
However, in the FRCS there is no mention of her having Moander's Portfolio. So, she does not have Sun Elves that venerate her (Moander). There is also no mention of such info in Faiths & Pantheons. If the info that AlacLuin is accurate, can we get a reliable source posted on here??
Faiths & Pantheons pg 40, History/Relationships
<snip>,since the Time of Trubles, to masqurade as Moandar <snip>
Sure, she may not yet have the portfolio, yet, but gaining worshipers that pray to her may just grant her that portfolio.
Maybe finally gaining this portfolio is what gave her the power to seperate her realm, nevermind
I think this shows that Lolth will grant spells to a sun elf, even if she only sees these sun elves as tools. (dubble meaning? )
Actually, as I said above, she does have some of Old Moldies portfolios and Finder got some of the others. |
| AlacLuin |
Posted - 17 May 2006 : 17:02:43
quote:
Originally posted by Drakul
However, in the FRCS there is no mention of her having Moander's Portfolio. So, she does not have Sun Elves that venerate her (Moander). There is also no mention of such info in Faiths & Pantheons. If the info that AlacLuin is accurate, can we get a reliable source posted on here??
Faiths & Pantheons pg 40, History/Relationships
<snip>,since the Time of Trubles, to masqurade as Moandar <snip>
Sure, she may not yet have the portfolio, yet, but gaining worshipers that pray to her may just grant her that portfolio.
Maybe finally gaining this portfolio is what gave her the power to seperate her realm, nevermind
I think this shows that Lolth will grant spells to a sun elf, even if she only sees these sun elves as tools. (dubble meaning?) |
| Eremite |
Posted - 16 May 2006 : 04:35:06
Actually, KnightErrantJR, that's what I'm doing. A lot of the EV don't know it's Moander but they know that they have some strange rituals to perform in order to prepare their spells. |
| KnightErrantJR |
Posted - 15 May 2006 : 19:48:55
Then again Eremite, you can have Lolth/Moander granting power to Lossarwyn, and having him present this power as the power of nature to the rest of the Eldreth Veluuthra. Ironic and fitting (although back when we discussed this most of the scribes thought someone like Ghaunadaur might be a better alternative for a divine patron of "nature" worshipping Eldreth Veluuthra).
That older discussion can be found here:
http://www.candlekeep.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=4517&SearchTerms=Eldreth,Veluuthra |
| Eremite |
Posted - 15 May 2006 : 19:25:59
My next campaign is going to have Lolth making a major push to convert the surface elves to her worship using Moander as her "front man/thing". It's high time she made some in-roads in the World Above and I think the Eldreth Veluuthra are a ready band of recruits (particularly as I won't touch the retcon from Champions of Ruin where druids and rangers can draw their spells from nature itself). |
| Kuje |
Posted - 15 May 2006 : 17:42:06
quote:
Originally posted by Drakul
Kuje is correct. Lolth did indeed assume Moander's Portfolio. I looked it up on my computer.
quote:
With the death of Moander,
always a more comprehensible (and tempting) force of evil to
the nature-loving surface elves than the Spider Queen, Lolth
has assumed the Darkbringer's aspect and portfolio of rotting
death, decay, and corruption and revived its cult in a bid to add
elven, half-elven, and human worshipers to the ranks of her
faithful.
Though, it seems funny that she would have Moander's Portfolio rather than Kiransalee (SP??).
I dunno, maybe Kiransalee was to busy being worried that Orcus would kick her arse. :) |
| Drakul |
Posted - 15 May 2006 : 09:58:42
Kuje is correct. Lolth did indeed assume Moander's Portfolio. I looked it up on my computer.
quote:
With the death of Moander,
always a more comprehensible (and tempting) force of evil to
the nature-loving surface elves than the Spider Queen, Lolth
has assumed the Darkbringer's aspect and portfolio of rotting
death, decay, and corruption and revived its cult in a bid to add
elven, half-elven, and human worshipers to the ranks of her
faithful.
Though, it seems funny that she would have Moander's Portfolio rather than Kiransalee (SP??). |
| warlockco |
Posted - 15 May 2006 : 09:11:44
quote:
Originally posted by darkflame millithor
I thought Finder Wyvernspur was still contesting her for Moander's portfolio. If he is she'll no doubt Eat him and get the portfolio anyway like she ate zinzarina "the sandwich".
She has assumed his Idenity, not his power. Kinda like Set and Sseth. |
| Arivia |
Posted - 15 May 2006 : 04:16:07
quote:
Originally posted by darkflame millithor
Oh ,by the way as much as we'd hate to hear it the DarkMother secretly wants the worship of the traitors(perhaps to inlighten the savages).
She would not be adverse to their worship,especially the wretched golds.Just to spite The Golden Idiot that had the nerve to attempt to banish her! Take note Lolth is nolonger banished to the abyss,She is Rizen!
Although it's not currently noted as such, the Candlekeep Inn was created a long time ago to collect all in-character roleplaying and to keep the rest of the forums for out-of-character discussion for clarity's sake. Hence, please keep all in-character posting therein. Speak from your views, not your character's. |
| darkflame millithor |
Posted - 15 May 2006 : 04:04:54
I thought Finder Wyvernspur was still contesting her for Moander's portfolio. If he is she'll no doubt Eat him and get the portfolio anyway like she ate zinzarina "the sandwich". |
| Kuje |
Posted - 15 May 2006 : 01:33:15
quote:
Originally posted by Drakul
Mikayla is a regular from Menzoberranzan.net. All in all, just another spider kisser. Vhaeraun will flush out those who are unworthy of him and accomplish his goal.
However, in the FRCS there is no mention of her having Moander's Portfolio. So, she does not have Sun Elves that venerate her (Moander). There is also no mention of such info in Faiths & Pantheons. If the info that AlacLuin is accurate, can we get a reliable source posted on here??
Demihuman Deities. One of her alias's is now Moander and same book, "Lolth has assumed the Darkbringer's aspect and portfolio of rotting death, decay, and corruption and revived its cult in a bit to add elven, half-elven, and human worshippers to the ranks of her faithful."
So there you have it. Always reference the 2e trilogy since F&P is a pale shadow of them. :) |
| Drakul |
Posted - 15 May 2006 : 00:52:04
Mikayla is a regular from Menzoberranzan.net. All in all, just another spider kisser. Vhaeraun will flush out those who are unworthy of him and accomplish his goal.
However, in the FRCS there is no mention of her having Moander's Portfolio. So, she does not have Sun Elves that venerate her (Moander). There is also no mention of such info in Faiths & Pantheons. If the info that AlacLuin is accurate, can we get a reliable source posted on here?? |
| AlacLuin |
Posted - 15 May 2006 : 00:02:57
I haven't seen this mentioned in this thread yet, but of note.
There are Gold elves cultists that worship Moandar in Cormanthor, near the body of the dead god.
Well, Lolth is pretending to be Moandar and (presumably) grants spells in Moandar's name.
So, Lolth does have sun elven worshipers. |
| darkflame millithor |
Posted - 14 May 2006 : 23:25:21
Oh ,by the way as much as we'd hate to hear it the DarkMother secretly wants the worship of the traitors(perhaps to inlighten the savages).
She would not be adverse to their worship,especially the wretched golds.Just to spite The Golden Idiot that had the nerve to attempt to banish her! Take note Lolth is nolonger banished to the abyss,She is Rizen! |
| darkflame millithor |
Posted - 14 May 2006 : 23:18:52
Even though the thread is old ,I find that I Like both The Cardinal and Mikayla a whole lot.
they both are worthy contemporaries,but some of us don't keep the drow dictionary with us all the time.Your dialogue is lovely but please try to stick to the barbaric,coarse language of the Rivil(iblith) so that other less fluent drow can be graced with your immaculent,Lolth-blessed words. I look forward to reading more from the chosen poeple like myself. |
| The Cardinal |
Posted - 10 Mar 2004 : 03:08:42
Alas, it twas a simple questions and recived simple answers. The letter of the question is compleated (Bonus points if that is recognised). Lolth would not out right hate a surface follower. That was our question, we thought maybe as such but better to ask those wiser than us... Well there is tis then |
| The Sage |
Posted - 10 Mar 2004 : 02:51:16
Ah, I can't help but notice that this scroll has fallen off-topic, just a little...
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| The Cardinal |
Posted - 10 Mar 2004 : 02:30:24
As shame... Well thou art warned
May we never be called upon to collect thy head |
| Shadowlord |
Posted - 10 Mar 2004 : 00:15:27
Never! |
| The Cardinal |
Posted - 09 Mar 2004 : 02:01:48
Ol zhah numl nindel udos xal uss tangi tlu morfel ulu elgg dos.
There is still a chance to beg for Lolth's forgiveness. |
| Shadowlord |
Posted - 09 Mar 2004 : 00:42:42
Dos ph'jal waela! Vel'drav L'Orbdrinus Senger g'jahallen dosst quar'valsharess, dos zhal ortelanth nindel dos tangis' inbal natha mayar whol dro'xundus!
I spit upon you, Spider-Kissers! |
| The Cardinal |
Posted - 08 Mar 2004 : 18:41:07
So Bookwyrm you wish to comprehend? Have we ever told you of the great glory there is in serving Lolth?
Ulu kla'ath l' orbb valsharess, gaer zhah nau mzild ib'ahalii taga nindel.
What is this Cling-on you speak of? |
| Bookwyrm |
Posted - 08 Mar 2004 : 18:27:39
Well, I figure it can't be Klingon, or Alaundo would be down on them like a bad spell . . . |
| SiriusBlack |
Posted - 08 Mar 2004 : 18:06:11
quote:
Originally posted by Bookwyrm
::Bookwyrm smacks his wand against his desk::
Blast! My wand of comprehend languages ran out of charges again! 
Oh! They were speaking one of the FR languages. I thought their keyboards had just gotten stuck. |
| Bookwyrm |
Posted - 08 Mar 2004 : 17:42:25
::Bookwyrm smacks his wand against his desk::
Blast! My wand of comprehend languages ran out of charges again!
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| Mikayla |
Posted - 07 Mar 2004 : 05:50:19
Dos ph', lu' nindel zhah ele Usstan xun naut khaless dos.
But a useful one perhaps. We shall see..... |
| The Cardinal |
Posted - 07 Mar 2004 : 05:11:02
Drill udos ph' natha waela jaluk, ph' udos naut?
* Grins* |
| Mikayla |
Posted - 07 Mar 2004 : 03:11:30
Jal khaless zhah waela. |
| The Cardinal |
Posted - 07 Mar 2004 : 01:04:52
Never would we assume something like that. The Yathtallar are infallible and would neve miss such things... We simply stated it.... for the advantage of those who do not understand the full glory that is the Spider Queen and her way of strengthening... Yes nothing more... Trust us... |
