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| Fellfire |
Posted - 01 Mar 2014 : 13:40:10
Rabbit-folk, hare-kin. I don't know. Some time ago I was traipsing thru the interweb and stumbled across these things in some wiki or another. I believe they are a 4e creation. Can anyone tell me the proper name for these creatures?
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| Barastir |
Posted - 21 May 2014 : 17:15:27
And some days ago I realized a great limitation a tiger hengeyokai would suffer, if he would be able to transform into a tiger since 1st level, accordingly with the old 1e OA rules: although he would be very strong in terms of damage, he would have a hard time having half of his human form HP and taking damage as a large creature (ok, some weapons are weaker against L, but most of the more popular weapons do a lot of damage vs. big critters). |
| Barastir |
Posted - 12 May 2014 : 12:53:42
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Originally posted by Razz
I actually remember reading about that NPC a long time back and thinking to myself how out of place that was from all the other hengeyokai.
The hengeyokai tiger poses a balance issue. All the hengeyokai have always been small animals with minimal balance issues but turning into a tiger as compared to a cat opens a host of problems at the gaming table. If one has a tiger hengeyokai, the other wants a dire ape hengeyokai...LOL
That's true, specially if you consider a low-level hengeyokai transforming into a tiger, with the great cat's full attack capabilities. However, it seems that in eastern mythology all animals can be hengeyokai, although the ones you find normally in legends are smaller animals - probably because there are few big animals in Japan.
In my revised Oriental Adventures I've included a few "greater hengeyokai" - black bear, wolf, boar and tiger, among others, but I've made an adjustment based on the character's level. In the first levels, these yokai would assume a lesser animal form, more similar to its level in HD (for example, a 1st level wolf hengeyokai would have the animal stats of a fox hengeyokai, and a 2nd level he would have the stats of a dog yokai). |
| Razz |
Posted - 11 May 2014 : 19:01:53
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Barastir
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
I'm pondering a tiger hengeyokai, right now... It's not one of the listed animals, but the original Oriental Adventures does say other animals are possible. Or I could say he's a cat, and that cat type is a tiger. 
Hengeyokai cats from OA are small cats, but I've seen tiger hengeyokai considered, and even described in some other sources (mostly unofficial, but I think I saw something in a Dragon Magazine). IIRC, they are also possible in japanese mythology.
Actually, (thanks to Kuje) I just found one in a Realms source: FR7 Hall of Heroes lists Masakado, a 9th-level bushi tiger hengeyokai. He is on pages 85-86 of that tome.
I actually remember reading about that NPC a long time back and thinking to myself how out of place that was from all the other hengeyokai.
The hengeyokai tiger poses a balance issue. All the hengeyokai have always been small animals with minimal balance issues but turning into a tiger as compared to a cat opens a host of problems at the gaming table. If one has a tiger hengeyokai, the other wants a dire ape hengeyokai...LOL |
| Alystra Illianniis |
Posted - 11 May 2014 : 05:25:26
Ah. Not really a Who fan, since I don't get any of the channels it usually runs on, and have never been a big fan of British shows in general. If he'd just said Police Box, I'd have got it better. |
| Wooly Rupert |
Posted - 11 May 2014 : 05:20:13
The blue box refers to the TARDIS, of Doctor Who fame. I don't know if the interior dimensions have ever been given, but it's a good ten or twenty feet from the door to the main control panel, and one would assume it has other rooms -- but it appears, externally, to be about the size of a phone booth.
I've always loved the concept of hammerspace, myself.  |
| Alystra Illianniis |
Posted - 10 May 2014 : 22:49:44
Blue box? Not getting the reference there. But considering how she literally pulls stuff out from under it, instead of from pockets, it's kind of disturbing.... I tend to think there's a "box" in there, alright, and it's the trans-dimensional kind. Brings new meaning to "box of holding" LOL!! Sorry, my mind is rather dirty at times. |
| Drustan Dwnhaedan |
Posted - 10 May 2014 : 22:19:38
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Originally posted by Alystra Illianniis
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Originally posted by Barastir
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
(...)
If I had played in such a campaign, I would have been really tempted to be Captain Caveman. Anything he needed, he could reach into his fur to get it.
Nabeshin, from Excel Saga, had a similar ability, with his "magic afro". He became my fave male anime character when he was charging into battle and whipped a couple of M-16s out of his afro.
Gizmo, from the Super Globetrotters cartoon, also had this ability...
And so does Momo the scholarly chick from the PS RPG game Breath of Fire III. Except she pulls everything out from under her robe..... I'll leave the WHERE to everyone's imagination, but I'll just say this- her weapon of choice is a shoulder-mounted cannon!!   
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Maybe her robe's bigger on the inside? (Kind of like a certain blue box, perhaps?) |
| Alystra Illianniis |
Posted - 08 May 2014 : 22:35:50
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Originally posted by Barastir
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
(...)
If I had played in such a campaign, I would have been really tempted to be Captain Caveman. Anything he needed, he could reach into his fur to get it.
Nabeshin, from Excel Saga, had a similar ability, with his "magic afro". He became my fave male anime character when he was charging into battle and whipped a couple of M-16s out of his afro.
Gizmo, from the Super Globetrotters cartoon, also had this ability...
And so does Momo the scholarly chick from the PS RPG game Breath of Fire III. Except she pulls everything out from under her robe..... I'll leave the WHERE to everyone's imagination, but I'll just say this- her weapon of choice is a shoulder-mounted cannon!!
Wooly, your tiger hengeiyokai character just reminded me- there is a tiger mutant in the new Nickelodeon TMNT cartoon series, named (appropriately enough) Tigerclaw. He's a bounty hunter and assassin. You might want to check him out- cool design, and his missing tail could be fodder for a great backstory! |
| Wooly Rupert |
Posted - 08 May 2014 : 05:23:34
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Originally posted by Barastir
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Still working out the backstory for my newest NPC, the tiger hengeyokai... Sadly, though, I have no use for him. I'm just creating him because I can.
Wooly, I've found another tiger hengeyokai in the Kara-Tur boxed set, named Hu ("tiger", in chinese). There are no details over his abilities or stats, but this is another canon reference on this hengeyokai variety. Unlike Masakado, he is NG, albeit with "a slight aura of menace about him". 
Ah, thank you for that reference. |
| Barastir |
Posted - 07 May 2014 : 13:39:18
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Still working out the backstory for my newest NPC, the tiger hengeyokai... Sadly, though, I have no use for him. I'm just creating him because I can.
Wooly, I've found another tiger hengeyokai in the Kara-Tur boxed set, named Hu ("tiger", in chinese). There are no details over his abilities or stats, but this is another canon reference on this hengeyokai variety. Unlike Masakado, he is NG, albeit with "a slight aura of menace about him". |
| Barastir |
Posted - 07 Mar 2014 : 11:10:03
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
(...)
If I had played in such a campaign, I would have been really tempted to be Captain Caveman. Anything he needed, he could reach into his fur to get it.
Nabeshin, from Excel Saga, had a similar ability, with his "magic afro". He became my fave male anime character when he was charging into battle and whipped a couple of M-16s out of his afro.
Gizmo, from the Super Globetrotters cartoon, also had this ability... |
| Diffan |
Posted - 07 Mar 2014 : 05:33:20
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Diffan
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Originally posted by Alystra Illianniis
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Originally posted by Diffan
Leo worked out well. He was a 4e character for a 1-shot campaign that was all about mutants and the like. I took a darker aspect for the character. He used longswords that were just reflavored katanas and had the Sohei theme. A bit over powered (as the 4E ranger often is) but was excellent in sneaking and getting the drop on enemies. Even though his backstory could be considered "troubled", he was still Lawful Good.
Just out of curiosity, what was his background? I'm seriously thinking of doing one up, now. (Never mind that I don't currently have a game going.) It might be fun to draw some up in 3.5 ed style. I may have to look up the stats in my 3.5 OA book.
Hm, well the campaign was a collection of Epic heroes from famous cartoons and he was created to fight alongside warriors like He-Man and Storm (from X-Men), and Lion-O. Because of that, his history had to change from the shows so I wrote his back story as Shredder being killed by both Raph and Splinter but he took them both down with him from the aid of Mousers. Leo was injured in a previous battle and couldn't help them which he ultimately regrets. Donnie and Mikey were, at the same time, fighting off more mousers and Kraang in the Technodrome. They were able to destroy the Technodrome but Donnie was killed as they left. Mikey lost an Arm as well as any humor and innocence he had left. After learning of the death of his other brother Raph and Splinter, he and Leo split because he felt it was Leo's fault they died because he wasn't there to protect them.
This made Leo gain a pretty dark and grim outlook. He started a 1-man crusade (similar to say...Batman) on ridding the streets of thugs and gangsters and your run-of-the-mill scumbags. When he and Mikey caught up again a few years later, they finally came to peace but this is when the adventure started. In the first few minutes of battle Mikey saved Leo's life as other worldly creatures rained down on them from an unknown galaxy. These were minions of a ruthless, Skeletal horror who called himself Skeletor. Mikey pushed Leo out of the way of a dark and sickening ray shot from a staff with a skeletal ram's head. Mikey slowly disintegrated in front of a horrified Leo. This pushed Leo over the edge and he brutally killed most of Skeletor's minions and one of his more prominent hencmen (a female he later discovered to be a sorceress named Evil-Lyn).
With Leo's furious onslaught, he helped a powerful armored warrior who rode a ferocious cat push back Skeletor and his forces into a strange new Realm. This is pretty much how my character got introduced into the campaign. It's funny because it's a pretty similar storyline to the LEGO Movie (except they're not LEGOs). It was a mashup of any/all famous cartoon characters from the last 30 or so years. And if/when one of our characters died, we thought of someone new to build and play (or resurrected the slain hero).
If I had played in such a campaign, I would have been really tempted to be Captain Caveman. Anything he needed, he could reach into his fur to get it.
Nabeshin, from Excel Saga, had a similar ability, with his "magic afro". He became my fave male anime character when he was charging into battle and whipped a couple of M-16s out of his afro.
While Im not overly familiar with either character, both could easily be do-able. Its the sort of campaign thats overtly zaney and fun and not at all serious (well it was here and there) but the tone was light-hearted. |
| Wooly Rupert |
Posted - 07 Mar 2014 : 05:30:19
Still working out the backstory for my newest NPC, the tiger hengeyokai... Sadly, though, I have no use for him. I'm just creating him because I can. |
| Wooly Rupert |
Posted - 07 Mar 2014 : 05:27:45
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Originally posted by Diffan
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Originally posted by Alystra Illianniis
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Originally posted by Diffan
Leo worked out well. He was a 4e character for a 1-shot campaign that was all about mutants and the like. I took a darker aspect for the character. He used longswords that were just reflavored katanas and had the Sohei theme. A bit over powered (as the 4E ranger often is) but was excellent in sneaking and getting the drop on enemies. Even though his backstory could be considered "troubled", he was still Lawful Good.
Just out of curiosity, what was his background? I'm seriously thinking of doing one up, now. (Never mind that I don't currently have a game going.) It might be fun to draw some up in 3.5 ed style. I may have to look up the stats in my 3.5 OA book.
Hm, well the campaign was a collection of Epic heroes from famous cartoons and he was created to fight alongside warriors like He-Man and Storm (from X-Men), and Lion-O. Because of that, his history had to change from the shows so I wrote his back story as Shredder being killed by both Raph and Splinter but he took them both down with him from the aid of Mousers. Leo was injured in a previous battle and couldn't help them which he ultimately regrets. Donnie and Mikey were, at the same time, fighting off more mousers and Kraang in the Technodrome. They were able to destroy the Technodrome but Donnie was killed as they left. Mikey lost an Arm as well as any humor and innocence he had left. After learning of the death of his other brother Raph and Splinter, he and Leo split because he felt it was Leo's fault they died because he wasn't there to protect them.
This made Leo gain a pretty dark and grim outlook. He started a 1-man crusade (similar to say...Batman) on ridding the streets of thugs and gangsters and your run-of-the-mill scumbags. When he and Mikey caught up again a few years later, they finally came to peace but this is when the adventure started. In the first few minutes of battle Mikey saved Leo's life as other worldly creatures rained down on them from an unknown galaxy. These were minions of a ruthless, Skeletal horror who called himself Skeletor. Mikey pushed Leo out of the way of a dark and sickening ray shot from a staff with a skeletal ram's head. Mikey slowly disintegrated in front of a horrified Leo. This pushed Leo over the edge and he brutally killed most of Skeletor's minions and one of his more prominent hencmen (a female he later discovered to be a sorceress named Evil-Lyn).
With Leo's furious onslaught, he helped a powerful armored warrior who rode a ferocious cat push back Skeletor and his forces into a strange new Realm. This is pretty much how my character got introduced into the campaign. It's funny because it's a pretty similar storyline to the LEGO Movie (except they're not LEGOs). It was a mashup of any/all famous cartoon characters from the last 30 or so years. And if/when one of our characters died, we thought of someone new to build and play (or resurrected the slain hero).
If I had played in such a campaign, I would have been really tempted to be Captain Caveman. Anything he needed, he could reach into his fur to get it.
Nabeshin, from Excel Saga, had a similar ability, with his "magic afro". He became my fave male anime character when he was charging into battle and whipped a couple of M-16s out of his afro. |
| genebateman |
Posted - 06 Mar 2014 : 23:37:23
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Originally posted by Drustan Dwnhaedan
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Originally posted by Diffan
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Diffan
There is also the Hengeokai. It's a race of pseudo-animal people who have an almost hybrid animal/humanoid appearance.
Always liked the hengeyokai, myself... Non-werecritters that change into animals -- what's not to love?
Now I want to come up with a hengeyokai NPC. 
Me too, they're pretty awesome. I had a Hengeyokai (turtle aspect) Ranger who wielded two longswords. Before you ask, yes it was a Leonardo knock-off but he was a lot of fun.
Now I want to play a hengeyokai PC. It's a pity my DM refuses to allow them (or any Oriental Adventures races and classes, for that matter) in his campaigns.
a good way to get around your DM is what i did for my players. (home brewed)
i all ways saw the elves more like clans in the nations so i adopted the clans from OA for the elves.the Unicorn clan lead by female elves riding unicorns (Battle Maidens)
the Sohie name was changed to Temple Guards and used more as NPC. would have to look up all the other things i did but you can see where i went |
| Diffan |
Posted - 06 Mar 2014 : 17:20:29
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Originally posted by Alystra Illianniis
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Originally posted by Diffan
Leo worked out well. He was a 4e character for a 1-shot campaign that was all about mutants and the like. I took a darker aspect for the character. He used longswords that were just reflavored katanas and had the Sohei theme. A bit over powered (as the 4E ranger often is) but was excellent in sneaking and getting the drop on enemies. Even though his backstory could be considered "troubled", he was still Lawful Good.
Just out of curiosity, what was his background? I'm seriously thinking of doing one up, now. (Never mind that I don't currently have a game going.) It might be fun to draw some up in 3.5 ed style. I may have to look up the stats in my 3.5 OA book.
Hm, well the campaign was a collection of Epic heroes from famous cartoons and he was created to fight alongside warriors like He-Man and Storm (from X-Men), and Lion-O. Because of that, his history had to change from the shows so I wrote his back story as Shredder being killed by both Raph and Splinter but he took them both down with him from the aid of Mousers. Leo was injured in a previous battle and couldn't help them which he ultimately regrets. Donnie and Mikey were, at the same time, fighting off more mousers and Kraang in the Technodrome. They were able to destroy the Technodrome but Donnie was killed as they left. Mikey lost an Arm as well as any humor and innocence he had left. After learning of the death of his other brother Raph and Splinter, he and Leo split because he felt it was Leo's fault they died because he wasn't there to protect them.
This made Leo gain a pretty dark and grim outlook. He started a 1-man crusade (similar to say...Batman) on ridding the streets of thugs and gangsters and your run-of-the-mill scumbags. When he and Mikey caught up again a few years later, they finally came to peace but this is when the adventure started. In the first few minutes of battle Mikey saved Leo's life as other worldly creatures rained down on them from an unknown galaxy. These were minions of a ruthless, Skeletal horror who called himself Skeletor. Mikey pushed Leo out of the way of a dark and sickening ray shot from a staff with a skeletal ram's head. Mikey slowly disintegrated in front of a horrified Leo. This pushed Leo over the edge and he brutally killed most of Skeletor's minions and one of his more prominent hencmen (a female he later discovered to be a sorceress named Evil-Lyn).
With Leo's furious onslaught, he helped a powerful armored warrior who rode a ferocious cat push back Skeletor and his forces into a strange new Realm. This is pretty much how my character got introduced into the campaign. It's funny because it's a pretty similar storyline to the LEGO Movie (except they're not LEGOs). It was a mashup of any/all famous cartoon characters from the last 30 or so years. And if/when one of our characters died, we thought of someone new to build and play (or resurrected the slain hero). |
| Wooly Rupert |
Posted - 05 Mar 2014 : 23:36:41
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Originally posted by George Krashos
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Actually, (thanks to Kuje) I just found one in a Realms source: FR7 Hall of Heroes lists Masakado, a 9th-level bushi tiger hengeyokai. He is on pages 85-86 of that tome.
I thought that these and the other "oriental" write-ups in FR 7 were excellent. I understand that these characters were created for an aborted novel line for OA that never finally got off the ground. Shame that - the story sounded good.
-- George Krashos
Agreed. Some of those characters have intrigued me since I first read that book, lo these many moons ago. |
| George Krashos |
Posted - 05 Mar 2014 : 23:33:27
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Actually, (thanks to Kuje) I just found one in a Realms source: FR7 Hall of Heroes lists Masakado, a 9th-level bushi tiger hengeyokai. He is on pages 85-86 of that tome.
I thought that these and the other "oriental" write-ups in FR 7 were excellent. I understand that these characters were created for an aborted novel line for OA that never finally got off the ground. Shame that - the story sounded good.
-- George Krashos |
| Kusghuul |
Posted - 05 Mar 2014 : 13:29:23
Furries. |
| Alystra Illianniis |
Posted - 05 Mar 2014 : 02:07:44
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Originally posted by Diffan
Leo worked out well. He was a 4e character for a 1-shot campaign that was all about mutants and the like. I took a darker aspect for the character. He used longswords that were just reflavored katanas and had the Sohei theme. A bit over powered (as the 4E ranger often is) but was excellent in sneaking and getting the drop on enemies. Even though his backstory could be considered "troubled", he was still Lawful Good.
Just out of curiosity, what was his background? I'm seriously thinking of doing one up, now. (Never mind that I don't currently have a game going.) It might be fun to draw some up in 3.5 ed style. I may have to look up the stats in my 3.5 OA book. |
| Barastir |
Posted - 04 Mar 2014 : 02:39:43
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Actually, (thanks to Kuje) I just found one in a Realms source: FR7 Hall of Heroes lists Masakado, a 9th-level bushi tiger hengeyokai. He is on pages 85-86 of that tome.
Wow, very nice! I suppose the entry includes statistics for this kind of yokai, right? Gotta check it out as soon as I go home...
EDIT: I've found some background info (not stats) in Hall of Heroes, but the character comes from the Kara-Tur adventure Test of the Samurai. |
| Fellfire |
Posted - 03 Mar 2014 : 21:43:59
Hengeyoki teriyaki. Mmmm |
| Wooly Rupert |
Posted - 03 Mar 2014 : 21:01:33
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Originally posted by Barastir
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
I'm pondering a tiger hengeyokai, right now... It's not one of the listed animals, but the original Oriental Adventures does say other animals are possible. Or I could say he's a cat, and that cat type is a tiger.
Hengeyokai cats from OA are small cats, but I've seen tiger hengeyokai considered, and even described in some other sources (mostly unofficial, but I think I saw something in a Dragon Magazine). IIRC, they are also possible in japanese mythology.
Actually, (thanks to Kuje) I just found one in a Realms source: FR7 Hall of Heroes lists Masakado, a 9th-level bushi tiger hengeyokai. He is on pages 85-86 of that tome. |
| Barastir |
Posted - 03 Mar 2014 : 19:18:07
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
I'm pondering a tiger hengeyokai, right now... It's not one of the listed animals, but the original Oriental Adventures does say other animals are possible. Or I could say he's a cat, and that cat type is a tiger.
Hengeyokai cats from OA are small cats, but I've seen tiger hengeyokai considered, and even described in some other sources (mostly unofficial, but I think I saw something in a Dragon Magazine). IIRC, they are also possible in japanese mythology. |
| Wooly Rupert |
Posted - 03 Mar 2014 : 17:03:43
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Originally posted by Barastir
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Non-werecritters that change into animals -- what's not to love?
Actually, they were magic animals that could change into humans, or an intermediary shape.
My mistake; it had been a really long time since I read up on them.
I'm pondering a tiger hengeyokai, right now... It's not one of the listed animals, but the original Oriental Adventures does say other animals are possible. Or I could say he's a cat, and that cat type is a tiger. |
| Barastir |
Posted - 03 Mar 2014 : 16:30:30
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Non-werecritters that change into animals -- what's not to love?
Actually, they were magic animals that could change into humans, or an intermediary shape. |
| Diffan |
Posted - 03 Mar 2014 : 10:41:56
Leo worked out well. He was a 4e character for a 1-shot campaign that was all about mutants and the like. I took a darker aspect for the character. He used longswords that were just reflavored katanas and had the Sohei theme. A bit over powered (as the 4E ranger often is) but was excellent in sneaking and getting the drop on enemies. Even though his backstory could be considered "troubled", he was still Lawful Good. |
| Alystra Illianniis |
Posted - 03 Mar 2014 : 00:26:20
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Originally posted by Diffan
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Diffan
There is also the Hengeokai. It's a race of pseudo-animal people who have an almost hybrid animal/humanoid appearance.
Always liked the hengeyokai, myself... Non-werecritters that change into animals -- what's not to love?
Now I want to come up with a hengeyokai NPC.
Me too, they're pretty awesome. I had a Hengeyokai (turtle aspect) Ranger who wielded two longswords. Before you ask, yes it was a Leonardo knock-off but he was a lot of fun.
I was actually going to do something like that using four kappas and a rat hengeyokai (all NPC's) for an Oriental campaign I was running. Never got far enough to bring them in, unfortunately.... So how did "Leo" work out? (Personally, I'd have gone with Mikey, but then again, I'm kind of biased toward him. He's always been my fave of the four, LOL!)
And now that I think about it, a rabbit hengeyokai would work really well for another certain character- Usagi Yojimbo! He'd be a Samurai, of course. (or 3.5 Ronin, specifically.) |
| Drustan Dwnhaedan |
Posted - 02 Mar 2014 : 16:34:39
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Originally posted by Diffan
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Diffan
There is also the Hengeokai. It's a race of pseudo-animal people who have an almost hybrid animal/humanoid appearance.
Always liked the hengeyokai, myself... Non-werecritters that change into animals -- what's not to love?
Now I want to come up with a hengeyokai NPC.
Me too, they're pretty awesome. I had a Hengeyokai (turtle aspect) Ranger who wielded two longswords. Before you ask, yes it was a Leonardo knock-off but he was a lot of fun.
Now I want to play a hengeyokai PC. It's a pity my DM refuses to allow them (or any Oriental Adventures races and classes, for that matter) in his campaigns. |
| sleyvas |
Posted - 02 Mar 2014 : 15:42:20
Hmmmm, that brings me back to the idea we had originally had for the unapproachable east years ago. Hengeyokai would definitely fit the area. Are the hordelands known to be populated with them in any large amount? |
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