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| Alruane |
Posted - 16 Nov 2013 : 23:59:25
I'd actually like to talk about it, I know a few things but never got my hands on A WHOLE lot of knowledge about the city. I find it ULTIMATELY fascinating, and highly interesting. If anyone is willing to input some lore, or talk about why they like it I'm all ears.
I realize one of the lords was Elminster at a time as well as Khelben, but I'd like to learn more of this place. Share knowledge of the city of Splendors!  |
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| Jorkens |
Posted - 13 Dec 2013 : 20:23:11
quote:
Journal VII. Jorkens of Waterdeep. Year of Silent Shadows (1436 DR).
Ha, nice to see that at least some of the more important people made it through the Spellplague
Now if I could just remember where I put that book... |
| Alruane |
Posted - 09 Dec 2013 : 15:37:13
There is a dedicated lore scroll for nothing but added info from other sages to the ever growing library on Waterdeep. I have created with my fellow sages in mind, much appreciated!
Waterdeep, The City Of Splendors! |
| LordXenophon |
Posted - 09 Dec 2013 : 14:38:31
quote:
Originally posted by Shadowsoul
Not sure if anyone remembers this but I really enjoyed the "Eye of the Beholder" games for PC. Well the first one is still my favourite to this day. What I did in my own personal D&D FR campaign was I made "Kirath Half-elven" a Lord of Waterdeep after he made it out of the dungeons below the city.
Now if you don't know Kirath, he was a magic user who's bones you find in the Mind Flayer level of the game. You can have him resurrected and he will join the party.
I so love Waterdeep!
I drew inspriation from the same thing when I designed an adventure to go with "I, Tyrant." They players were not the first heroes Piergeiron sent to investigate the Beholder island. At the bottom of one of the beholder lairs was the player character of a long-missing player, turned to stone. The players revived him and he joined the party.
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| Jeremy Grenemyer |
Posted - 09 Dec 2013 : 06:29:25
quote:
Originally posted by Alruane
This helps GREATLY!
Glad to hear it.
quote:
Originally posted by Alruane
As a matter of fact I'd like to put together a scroll on here consisting of Waterdeep lore and information. For everyone to see! Unless there already is one, having fellow sages add canon lore!
I'm sure there have been plenty of requests for Waterdeep lore, but I don't know if there exists a dedicated Waterdeep scroll (i.e an equivalent to the Looking For All Info About Cormyr scroll).
Were I you, I'd go right ahead and start one, either on the Running the Realms shelf or perhaps on the Sage of Realmslore shelf.
************
Some names of books and other media written by NPCs residing in Waterdeep or written about Waterdeep follow. All are taken from the list I and others worked on over at Loremaster.org in the Books of the Realms thread there:
Lines I've Lived By. Mirt of Waterdeep. Year of the Harp.
[[Greenwood, Ed (2005). Hand of Fire (Second Edition). 7]]
A Walk in My City. Kuldhas of Waterdeep. Year of Azuth's Woe (1440 DR).
[[Steven E. Schend (2008). Blackstaff Tower (First Edition). 173]]
Architects Arcane: Waterdeep and the Sword Coast North. Paerl Nhesch. Year of the Dog-Eared Journal (1424 DR).
[[Steven E. Schend (2008). Blackstaff Tower (First Edition). 258]]
Journal VII. Jorkens of Waterdeep. Year of Silent Shadows (1436 DR).
[[Steven E. Schend (2008). Blackstaff Tower (First Edition). 140]]
My Eyes Open Always: Memories of the Blackstaff. Maliantor of Waterdeep. Year of the Enthroned Puppet (1416 DR).
[[Steven E. Schend (2008). Blackstaff Tower (First Edition). 226]]
Horkle's Gossip Cauldron. Published by Annath Horkle of Beacon Street, Trades Ward, Waterdeep.
[[Greenwood, Ed. “Eye On the Realms: The Storm Bird." Dragon #411 May 2012]]
Waterdeep Wartrumpet. Publisher unknown. Waterdeep. Contributors include the social critic Markarl Mightyeye (pseudonym).
[[Greenwood, Ed. “Eye On the Realms: Rastigur Stornont." Dungeon #184 November 2010]]
Beware the Favored Tentacle.
Anonymous.
Waterdeep.
A cheap-scratch (i.e. low quality paper) chapbook. Poorly written. Distributed throughout southern Waterdeep (parts south of the Palace).
Topic: the Favored Tentacle.
[[Greenwood, Ed. “Eye On the Realms: The Storm Bird." Dragon #411 May 2012]] |
| Shadowsoul |
Posted - 08 Dec 2013 : 23:33:05
quote:
Originally posted by Alruane
Well you're in good company then, Shadowsoul!
Cheers!
I can't tell you how many of my games began in the "Yawning Portal". 
My old notes are long gone, but I remember doing a lot of extensive work on the "Watch Wizards". I went to great lengths to flesh them out more. |
| Alruane |
Posted - 08 Dec 2013 : 23:23:30
Well you're in good company then, Shadowsoul! |
| Shadowsoul |
Posted - 08 Dec 2013 : 23:07:02
Not sure if anyone remembers this but I really enjoyed the "Eye of the Beholder" games for PC. Well the first one is still my favourite to this day. What I did in my own personal D&D FR campaign was I made "Kirath Half-elven" a Lord of Waterdeep after he made it out of the dungeons below the city.
Now if you don't know Kirath, he was a magic user who's bones you find in the Mind Flayer level of the game. You can have him resurrected and he will join the party.
I so love Waterdeep! |
| Alruane |
Posted - 08 Dec 2013 : 09:52:13
quote:
Originally posted by Jeremy Grenemyer
quote:
Originally posted by Alruane
Why thank you Jeremy! I shall make a note of these and look them all up for further lore. I appreciate each one having a small description as well!
You're very welcome.
What follows are a whole bunch of names belonging to various personages found in Waterdeep, along with a few bits of info about them.
As before, my source of information is the Eye on the Realms series of articles. I hope you find them useful.
*********
Alanthra Ghellowsar
Brothelkeeper
Alathea Gryphonsar
Disappeared, daughter of Andremon.
Aldran Haldark
Guilded rope maker and ship outfitter, shop owner
Andremon Gryphonsar
Many rooms and places named after him in Waterdeep after he passed away. Well liked. Six daughters.
Andurlatha Merendil
Lady escort
Annath Horkle
Broadsheet publisher; Trades Ward
Awntrus Malaver
Nickname: the Black Glove.
Unguilded investigator
Beregon Stormshot
Member of the Watch.
Earned Shield of the City award.
Blacksunder
Murderer for hire
Blacksunder
Wheelwright (note: this isn't a typo. Both NPCs share the name "Blacksunder".)
Blakrho Phull
Exiled noble; called “Blackthroat”
Dragonard Merendil
Dratha Murrndryl
Seer; called a ‘daily lifeguide’; Castle Ward
Elaerla Raelingdorn
Sage.
Specialtiy is the recent social history of Castle Ward.
Loves cheeses.
Eldro Heldargram
Brewmaster
Elmra Mrayvren
Inn owner.
Felgrar Ilitul
Exiled noble. Called “Firehurler”.
Felmar Phull
Noble of Waterdeep
Glaerus Blakakhmar “the Black”
Glaraura Margaster
Noble of Waterdeep
Guild Speaker Amgarath Beltront
Watchful Order member
Haeldrar Mrayvren
Merchant
Haelor Hammantle
Gem merchant
Haelrorn Phull
Deceased noble of waterdeep
Harburtran Daeyel
Leader of the True Ghost Knight Faithful
Helgramgura Gundwynd
Exiled noble
Ithrim Cauldart
“Purveyor to the Titled”; caterer and procurer used by most nobles in Waterdeep, acts as the “voice of the nobles” for a fee.
Jessalythe Sparrantar
Independent adventurer-wizard
Kleannsur Hortothul
Just Hand of Torm;
Nickname: Cleanser
Lady Alaeya Kothont
Lady Anthra Snome
Noble of Waterdeep; dowager; harridan
Lady Embrelle Eagleshield
Laeyra Jhannastra
Wealthy widow; Castle Ward
Lord Elevur Tarm
Son and heir of the Tarms
Lord Grimmun Kothont
Spends all his time invisible.
Lord Lonthlur Tarm
An invalid and former adventurer; monster nearly bit his head off, taking a good chunk instead. Walks Dock Ward by night, hooded and cloaked.
Lord Narrovan Eagleshield
Holds a revel every four years, on the sixth night of Flamerule, to honor his dead wife Embrelle.
Lord Olranth Silmerhelve
Noble of Waterdeep
Lord Quaen Lanngolyn
Noble of Waterdeep. Tentacled mask of his caused gossip; 1466 DR
Lord Ralascar Tarm
Father of Elevur and Lonthlur
Lord Urlymen Jardeth
Discontented bachelor; North Ward
Malaerha Ohmtalakar
Mother of Thanthrabbas
Markarl Mightyeye
Social Critic
Maruttur Thalekin
Self-appointed Sage of the Seas; Nickname: mutter; Castle Ward
Melaroar Duthking
Art dealer. Loudly flamboyant, rich.
Meurold Navarnaekur
Self-styled Sage of Waterdeep.
Expert on building and sites history from 1430 DR to 1451 DR. Most of his notes and records were stolen.
Mhairdren Phull
Noble of Waterdeep
Moaront Ghelmer
A painter who disappeared some thirty years ago.
Mortrym Margaster
Noble of Waterdeep
Old Coldeyes Saerpryn Thulomhreigh
Moneylender; Castle Ward
Olthar Jhannastra
Deceased
Dealer in fineweave textiles, outlander mercantile concern investor
Ostryn Gralhund
Noble
Phondra Dorlym
Merchant, Nickname: eggs.
Egg seller
Rambaertus of Waterdeep
Sage
Randamar Lohthuntle
Innkeeper
Rastigur Stornont
Merchant, Nickname: Old Roaring Rastigur
Relavvar Husteem
Exiled noble; called “Redblade”
Rhavilra Gryphonsar
Runs the Brightboots cleaning service, daughter of Andremon.
Rhoenus Ravenwynd
Factor of Ravenwyndar Representations
Sammereza Sulphontis
Notorious personage
Sardron Thandarn
Pirate (former), Trader
Sastram Vaerintel
local minstrel
Systarra Lohthuntle
Innkeeper
Talessa Tanshar
Nickname: Bloodcoins
Thamrose Baradult
Scribe
Thanthrabbas Ohmtalakar
Of Ohmtalakar’s Fine Gems in Sea Ward. Calishite blood.
Tlarleene Gryphonsar
Adventurer; daughter of Andremon.
Trueblood Merendil
Tyrael Dantathur
Apprentice to Glaerus
Velmark Durinbold
Exiled noble
This helps GREATLY! The more information I have about Waterdeep, the better! I love this place, almost as much as Baldur's Gate itself! As a matter of fact I'd like to put together a scroll on here consisting of Waterdeep lore and information. For everyone to see! Unless there already is one, having fellow sages add canon lore! |
| Jeremy Grenemyer |
Posted - 08 Dec 2013 : 07:05:16
Alruane,
Below are some words and phrases used in and around Waterdeep. These are take from the Forgotten Realms Lexicon found at Loremaster.org.
I'm happy to say all the entries (unlike the ones above) include a source where the word or phrase is found.
Enjoy!
********
all horns hunt
Common (Waterdeep)
phrase
1. The equivalent of a real-world "all points bulletin" for the Watch in the city of Waterdeep.
2. Refers to the signal horns all Watch officers carry while on patrol.
[[Greenwood, Ed. "Eye on the Realms: The Six Horned Crowns." Dragon #413 July 2012]]
http://www.wizards.com/DnD/Article.aspx?x=dnd/dun/201207eotr
comfort fare
Common
Food that is flavorful and easy to eat.
[[Greenwood, Ed. "Eye on the Realms: The Lost Dragon of Waterdeep." Dragon #414 August 2012]]
http://www.wizards.com/DnD/Article.aspx?x=dnd/dun/201208eotr
Guild Speaker
Common
noun
In Waterdeep:
1. A grandiose term for a spokesperson of the Watchful Order of Magists and Protectors.
2. An official title within the Watchful Order by 1479 DR. Several such Speakers exist, each with a particular specialty or field of magical expertise.
[[Greenwood, Ed. "Eye on the Realms: The Lost Dragon of Waterdeep." Dragon #414 August 2012]]
http://www.wizards.com/DnD/Article.aspx?x=dnd/dun/201208eotr
the High
Common (Waterdeep)
noun
1. A shortened form of "the High Road" that is almost always use the citizens of Waterdeep. (Outlanders and non-natives of Waterdeep can be distinguished as such by their failure to use this term.)
[[Greenwood, Ed. "Eye on the Realms: The Talking Door." Dragon #410]
http://www.wizards.com/DnD/Article.aspx?x=dnd/dun/201204eotr
jacks
Common
noun
1. A shortened version of the word "doorjacks".
2. A term used to describe the youths employed at the Inn of the Dripping Dagger (in Waterdeep) to fetch and return items from the inn's cellars and attics.
[[Greenwood, Ed. "Eye on the Realms: The Talking Door." Dragon #410]]
http://www.wizards.com/DnD/Article.aspx?x=dnd/dun/201204eotr
"not previously entertained"
Common (Waterdeep)
phrase
Business activities not previously engaged in. E.g. "We will expand our business into holdings not previously entertained."
[[Greenwood, Ed. "Eye on the Realms: The Six Horned Crowns." Dragon #413 July 2012]]
http://www.wizards.com/DnD/Article.aspx?x=dnd/dun/201207eotr
onslur eel
Common
noun
1. A kind of eel.
2. Known to be served roasted in Waterdeep.
[[Greenwood, Ed. "Eye on the Realms: The Lost Dragon of Waterdeep." Dragon #414 August 2012]]
http://www.wizards.com/DnD/Article.aspx?x=dnd/dun/201208eotr
"prominent and dominant"
Common (Waterdeep)
phrase
1. A polite term for ruthless-in-trade, domineering nobles, guildmasters and wealthy citizenry seeking to become noble.
2. A phrase found in broadsheets printed in Waterdeep.
[[Greenwood, Ed. "Eye on the Realms: The Lost Dragon of Waterdeep." Dragon #414 August 2012]]
http://www.wizards.com/DnD/Article.aspx?x=dnd/dun/201208eotr
safegiving
Common (Waterdeep)
verb
1. The act of turning over suspect or possibly dangerous items, or items whose ownership is in dispute, to the Watch of Waterdeep.
2. An act gaining in popularity over the last thirty years (approx. 1449 DR to 1479 DR) in Waterdeep and seen as a civic duty, as items unclaimed after four seasons are returned to the individual who safegave them, as are items for which a dispute over ownership has been resolved.
[[Greenwood, Ed. "Eye on the Realms: The Six Horned Crowns." Dragon #413 July 2012]]
http://www.wizards.com/DnD/Article.aspx?x=dnd/dun/201207eotr
seasoners
Common (Waterdeep)
noun
Individuals who rent rooms by the season.
[[Greenwood, Ed. "Eye on the Realms: The Talking Door." Dragon #410]]
http://www.wizards.com/DnD/Article.aspx?x=dnd/dun/201204eotr
spalder-splash
Common (Waterdeep)
noun
A polite term for nonsensical dross.
[[Greenwood, Ed. "Eye On the Realms: The Wild Lords." Dungeon #190 May 2011]]
http://www.wizards.com/DnD/Article.aspx?x=dnd/dun/201105eotr
wharfjets
Common (Waterdeep)
noun
Small, movable cranes that load and unload ships in Waterdeep.
[[Greenwood, Ed. "Eye on the Realms: The Storm Bird." Dragon #411 May 2012]]
http://www.wizards.com/DnD/Article.aspx?x=dnd/dun/201205eotr
"Whisperer within the Door"
Common (Waterdeep)
phrase
The name given by broadcryers to the voice that emanates from the front door of the Inn of the Dripping Dagger, in Waterdeep.
[[Greenwood, Ed. "Eye on the Realms: The Talking Door." Dragon #410]]http://www.wizards.com/DnD/Article.aspx?x=dnd/dun/201204eotr
wildblade
Common (Waterdeep)
noun
A Waterdhavian noble who rebels against rules, believes rank accords one the right to break most laws and shun those who behave "properly." [[Greenwood, Ed. "Eye On the Realms: The Wild Lords." Dungeon #190 May 2011]]
http://www.wizards.com/DnD/Article.aspx?x=dnd/dun/201105eotr |
| Jeremy Grenemyer |
Posted - 08 Dec 2013 : 06:02:35
quote:
Originally posted by Alruane
Why thank you Jeremy! I shall make a note of these and look them all up for further lore. I appreciate each one having a small description as well!
You're very welcome.
What follows are a whole bunch of names belonging to various personages found in Waterdeep, along with a few bits of info about them.
As before, my source of information is the Eye on the Realms series of articles. I hope you find them useful.
*********
Alanthra Ghellowsar
Brothelkeeper
Alathea Gryphonsar
Disappeared, daughter of Andremon.
Aldran Haldark
Guilded rope maker and ship outfitter, shop owner
Andremon Gryphonsar
Many rooms and places named after him in Waterdeep after he passed away. Well liked. Six daughters.
Andurlatha Merendil
Lady escort
Annath Horkle
Broadsheet publisher; Trades Ward
Awntrus Malaver
Nickname: the Black Glove.
Unguilded investigator
Beregon Stormshot
Member of the Watch.
Earned Shield of the City award.
Blacksunder
Murderer for hire
Blacksunder
Wheelwright (note: this isn't a typo. Both NPCs share the name "Blacksunder".)
Blakrho Phull
Exiled noble; called “Blackthroat”
Dragonard Merendil
Dratha Murrndryl
Seer; called a ‘daily lifeguide’; Castle Ward
Elaerla Raelingdorn
Sage.
Specialtiy is the recent social history of Castle Ward.
Loves cheeses.
Eldro Heldargram
Brewmaster
Elmra Mrayvren
Inn owner.
Felgrar Ilitul
Exiled noble. Called “Firehurler”.
Felmar Phull
Noble of Waterdeep
Glaerus Blakakhmar “the Black”
Glaraura Margaster
Noble of Waterdeep
Guild Speaker Amgarath Beltront
Watchful Order member
Haeldrar Mrayvren
Merchant
Haelor Hammantle
Gem merchant
Haelrorn Phull
Deceased noble of waterdeep
Harburtran Daeyel
Leader of the True Ghost Knight Faithful
Helgramgura Gundwynd
Exiled noble
Ithrim Cauldart
“Purveyor to the Titled”; caterer and procurer used by most nobles in Waterdeep, acts as the “voice of the nobles” for a fee.
Jessalythe Sparrantar
Independent adventurer-wizard
Kleannsur Hortothul
Just Hand of Torm;
Nickname: Cleanser
Lady Alaeya Kothont
Lady Anthra Snome
Noble of Waterdeep; dowager; harridan
Lady Embrelle Eagleshield
Laeyra Jhannastra
Wealthy widow; Castle Ward
Lord Elevur Tarm
Son and heir of the Tarms
Lord Grimmun Kothont
Spends all his time invisible.
Lord Lonthlur Tarm
An invalid and former adventurer; monster nearly bit his head off, taking a good chunk instead. Walks Dock Ward by night, hooded and cloaked.
Lord Narrovan Eagleshield
Holds a revel every four years, on the sixth night of Flamerule, to honor his dead wife Embrelle.
Lord Olranth Silmerhelve
Noble of Waterdeep
Lord Quaen Lanngolyn
Noble of Waterdeep. Tentacled mask of his caused gossip; 1466 DR
Lord Ralascar Tarm
Father of Elevur and Lonthlur
Lord Urlymen Jardeth
Discontented bachelor; North Ward
Malaerha Ohmtalakar
Mother of Thanthrabbas
Markarl Mightyeye
Social Critic
Maruttur Thalekin
Self-appointed Sage of the Seas; Nickname: mutter; Castle Ward
Melaroar Duthking
Art dealer. Loudly flamboyant, rich.
Meurold Navarnaekur
Self-styled Sage of Waterdeep.
Expert on building and sites history from 1430 DR to 1451 DR. Most of his notes and records were stolen.
Mhairdren Phull
Noble of Waterdeep
Moaront Ghelmer
A painter who disappeared some thirty years ago.
Mortrym Margaster
Noble of Waterdeep
Old Coldeyes Saerpryn Thulomhreigh
Moneylender; Castle Ward
Olthar Jhannastra
Deceased
Dealer in fineweave textiles, outlander mercantile concern investor
Ostryn Gralhund
Noble
Phondra Dorlym
Merchant, Nickname: eggs.
Egg seller
Rambaertus of Waterdeep
Sage
Randamar Lohthuntle
Innkeeper
Rastigur Stornont
Merchant, Nickname: Old Roaring Rastigur
Relavvar Husteem
Exiled noble; called “Redblade”
Rhavilra Gryphonsar
Runs the Brightboots cleaning service, daughter of Andremon.
Rhoenus Ravenwynd
Factor of Ravenwyndar Representations
Sammereza Sulphontis
Notorious personage
Sardron Thandarn
Pirate (former), Trader
Sastram Vaerintel
local minstrel
Systarra Lohthuntle
Innkeeper
Talessa Tanshar
Nickname: Bloodcoins
Thamrose Baradult
Scribe
Thanthrabbas Ohmtalakar
Of Ohmtalakar’s Fine Gems in Sea Ward. Calishite blood.
Tlarleene Gryphonsar
Adventurer; daughter of Andremon.
Trueblood Merendil
Tyrael Dantathur
Apprentice to Glaerus
Velmark Durinbold
Exiled noble |
| Alruane |
Posted - 08 Dec 2013 : 00:51:26
I think that's a great idea, for those of us that love Waterdeep and want to learn more about it. Locations, governing system, history, historical figures, etc. |
| LordXenophon |
Posted - 08 Dec 2013 : 00:47:26
Perhaps we should have a thread specifically for sharing locations we've added to Waterdeep. |
| Alruane |
Posted - 07 Dec 2013 : 10:45:23
There are so many novels I need to find about Waterdeep and other various aspects of Faerun. I love the realms! |
| Alruane |
Posted - 07 Dec 2013 : 10:24:12
Why thank you Jeremy! I shall make a note of these and look them all up for further lore. I appreciate each one having a small description as well! |
| Jeremy Grenemyer |
Posted - 07 Dec 2013 : 10:14:31
quote:
Originally posted by Alruane
Does anyone else have any interesting lore or stories to share about the City Of Splendors? 
Some random bits of lore, from my collection drawn from various Eye on the Realms articles in Dragon and Dungeon magazines (ezine versions).
Lady Eagleshield Revel
A revel held to honor Lady Embrelle Eagleshield in Waterdeep at Highroost, once very four years, on the sixth night of Flamerule.
Highroost
The home of the Eagleshield noble family in Waterdeep.
The Laughing Lass
A brothel on Ship street. Dungeon 184
The Foaming Tankard
A brew-tavern. Converted into The Foamy Smile festhall.
Dungeon 184
Ten Trolls Fallen
A tavern in Trades Ward. Has named rooms such as the Brazen Doors room.
Trades Ward
Inn of the Dripping Dagger
Front door sometimes speaks out loud. The inn is sometimes haunted.
Dock Ward
Haldark's Shiphaven Shop
On Sternpost Street.
Jhannastra House
Turned into a fortress of sorts after being broken into. Three ground floor shops occupy the space beneath her living quarters.
Castle Ward
Home of Maruttur "Mutter" Thalekin
Seller of maps, charts and books, knows much of the last century of seafaring activity in Waterdeep vicinity; doesn't do Skullport or Seacaves.
Castle Ward
Home of Saerpryn "Old Coldeyes" Thulomhreigh
Moneylender on Rainrun Street
Trades Ward
Ravenwyndar Representations
Factors/trade agents; of Blackmul Street
Mrayvren's Superior Castings
Given to four younger sons so that Mrayvren's Bountiful Rest could be opened.
North Ward
(name?)
Ilzantul Street, near Delzorin Street.
Called the Bountiful by locals. Has a room called the Gryphonshar.
Waterdeep
Mrayvren's Bountiful Rest
Feature: the Gryphonsar room (additional from Ed):
“Gryphonshar” was the name of a wealthy, successful, ethical, and much-loved Waterdhavian merchant who was a sometime sponsor, patron, and eventually business partner of Haeldrar Mrayvren. Andremon Gryphonsar died in the autumn of 1454 DR, but is remembered with fond nostalgia by many traders, and several rooms and features around Waterdeep have been named for him (all since his death).
Sea Ward
Ohmtalakar's Fine Gems
Located on the second floor of the first west-side Sul Street building north of Chanszobur's Manywares.
Sea Ward
Chanszobur's Manywares
On NW corner of Sul and Vondil Streets. Glittering and highly regarded store; favorite of nobles; expensive but superior merchandise.
(additional from Ed:)
Brightboots cleaning service
Run by Rhavilra Gryphonshar, whose teams clean many lodgings and polish many boots for laboring and shopkeeping Waterdhavians
Highroost
The home of the Eagleshield noble family in Waterdeep.
Waterdeep Wartrumpet
broadsheet
Markarl Mightyeye (pseudonym for an unknown social critic) writes in this one.
Horkle's Gossip Cauldron
broadsheet
Published by Annath Horkle of Beacon Street, Trades Ward
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A random smattering of lore, but I hope it interests you and otherwise excites your imagination.
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| Alruane |
Posted - 01 Dec 2013 : 06:59:39
quote:
Originally posted by Jeremy Grenemyer
quote:
Originally posted by Tyrant
quote:
Originally posted by Firestorm
hmmmm. I do not remember Elminster being a lord there but it has been awhile since I read the older sourcebooks.
I believe one of the recent Elminster books had Storm recalling a time when she and Elminster were Lords of Waterdeep. I can't recall off hand which one or what the exact circumstances of the conversation were though.
This has been nagging at me all week, so I went for a dig in my notes.
The reference can be found on page 287 of the hardcover version of "Bury Elminster Deep". The exchange went thus:
Mirt grinned. "The two of ye would have made very good Lords of Waterdeep, ye know."
El and Storm exchanged glances again.
"As I recall," Storm added sweetly, "we did."
A perfect example of how answering one question (i.e. "Were any Chosen ever Lords of Waterdeep?") opening the door to several more questions.
Not only that, but it does clarify to others that Elminster was a hidden lord. But I do believe in one of my Elminster books, it blatantly says he was anyway. Or, at the very least, it vaguely mentions it. But yeah, it does open doors to several other questiosn as well... |
| Alruane |
Posted - 01 Dec 2013 : 06:55:32
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
That's the beauty of good Realmslore. You never know where it can take you...
"It's a dangerous business, Frodo, going out of your door," he used to say. "You step into the Road, and if you don't keep your feet, there is no knowing where you might be swept off to." -- The Fellowship of the Ring, page 82
Exactly! It's fun letting it lead you to the most interesting places!
Good quote though haha Very fitting! |
| Wooly Rupert |
Posted - 01 Dec 2013 : 06:00:33
That's the beauty of good Realmslore. You never know where it can take you...
"It's a dangerous business, Frodo, going out of your door," he used to say. "You step into the Road, and if you don't keep your feet, there is no knowing where you might be swept off to." -- The Fellowship of the Ring, page 82 |
| Jeremy Grenemyer |
Posted - 01 Dec 2013 : 05:07:01
quote:
Originally posted by Tyrant
quote:
Originally posted by Firestorm
hmmmm. I do not remember Elminster being a lord there but it has been awhile since I read the older sourcebooks.
I believe one of the recent Elminster books had Storm recalling a time when she and Elminster were Lords of Waterdeep. I can't recall off hand which one or what the exact circumstances of the conversation were though.
This has been nagging at me all week, so I went for a dig in my notes.
The reference can be found on page 287 of the hardcover version of "Bury Elminster Deep". The exchange went thus:
Mirt grinned. "The two of ye would have made very good Lords of Waterdeep, ye know."
El and Storm exchanged glances again.
"As I recall," Storm added sweetly, "we did."
A perfect example of how answering one question (i.e. "Were any Chosen ever Lords of Waterdeep?") opening the door to several more questions. |
| LordXenophon |
Posted - 30 Nov 2013 : 22:16:24
Waterdeep is so large, a random building table starts to make sense. |
| Alruane |
Posted - 30 Nov 2013 : 04:48:16
I found some more interesting canon lore within candlekeep books and various other novels on Baldur's Gate Enhanced Edition. Very interesting actually! |
| Alruane |
Posted - 27 Nov 2013 : 13:06:38
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Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie
The identity of one rather exotic 1479 Masked Lord is speculated in my novel DOWNSHADOW, in the last full chapter before the epilogue. And yeah, she's probably right.
I know several more but I'm not sure who's been disclosed and which are still protected under NDA, so I'll leave it a mystery.
I recommend the Ed Greenwood Presents Waterdeep series for lore on this point. Also, check out this thread (lots of spoilers, though!): http://forum.candlekeep.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=12810
Cheers
Ed Greenwood ANYTHING is something I'd gladly read. so that sounds perfect, just have to get my hands on the material! thanks for the info though, definitely adds to my interest of the City Of Splendors!
Thanks, Erik Scott de Bie. |
| Alruane |
Posted - 27 Nov 2013 : 13:03:23
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Originally posted by LordXenophon
As I run it, there isn't likely to be an open war, but both sides are still scheming in the background. Certain guilds are also at odds with certain temples.
For Waterdeep, this sounds about right. From what I gather, it wouldn't be Waterdeep if there wasn't scheming and what not going on. |
| Alruane |
Posted - 27 Nov 2013 : 13:01:16
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Originally posted by Marco Volo
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Originally posted by hashimashadoo
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Originally posted by Alruane
and I heard something about Waterdeep being ran by Merchants for a time. Either before or after the Lords, also a little vague on the details.
For about 7 years, after Ahghairon died, the city was essentially run by a council of the masters of the various guilds...but that didn't end so well.
As hashimashadoo said, there was a war between guilds and noble families, resulting in a extinction of certain of these families (iirc) and few guilds very unappreciated, even centuries after these events. The rivalry between guilds and nobles are still going on today, but we are very far from a war. Or aren't we ? 
See this kind of development in this great city, and the in-government fighting make it interesting! I definitely need to get more info on Waterdeep. |
| Erik Scott de Bie |
Posted - 24 Nov 2013 : 20:15:00
The identity of one rather exotic 1479 Masked Lord is speculated in my novel DOWNSHADOW, in the last full chapter before the epilogue. And yeah, she's probably right.
I know several more but I'm not sure who's been disclosed and which are still protected under NDA, so I'll leave it a mystery.
I recommend the Ed Greenwood Presents Waterdeep series for lore on this point. Also, check out this thread (lots of spoilers, though!): http://forum.candlekeep.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=12810
Cheers |
| LordXenophon |
Posted - 24 Nov 2013 : 18:33:13
As I run it, there isn't likely to be an open war, but both sides are still scheming in the background. Certain guilds are also at odds with certain temples. |
| Marco Volo |
Posted - 24 Nov 2013 : 13:30:06
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Originally posted by hashimashadoo
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Originally posted by Alruane
and I heard something about Waterdeep being ran by Merchants for a time. Either before or after the Lords, also a little vague on the details.
For about 7 years, after Ahghairon died, the city was essentially run by a council of the masters of the various guilds...but that didn't end so well.
As hashimashadoo said, there was a war between guilds and noble families, resulting in a extinction of certain of these families (iirc) and few guilds very unappreciated, even centuries after these events. The rivalry between guilds and nobles are still going on today, but we are very far from a war. Or aren't we ? |
| Alruane |
Posted - 19 Nov 2013 : 06:10:24
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Originally posted by hashimashadoo
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Originally posted by Alruane
and I heard something about Waterdeep being ran by Merchants for a time. Either before or after the Lords, also a little vague on the details.
For about 7 years, after Ahghairon died, the city was essentially run by a council of the masters of the various guilds...but that didn't end so well.
I figured as much, too many power grabbing masters. There is bound to be warring or at least a great disruption within the council. |
| hashimashadoo |
Posted - 19 Nov 2013 : 06:01:35
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Originally posted by Alruane
and I heard something about Waterdeep being ran by Merchants for a time. Either before or after the Lords, also a little vague on the details.
For about 7 years, after Ahghairon died, the city was essentially run by a council of the masters of the various guilds...but that didn't end so well. |
| Alruane |
Posted - 18 Nov 2013 : 22:47:20
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Originally posted by Tyrant
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Originally posted by Alruane
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Originally posted by Tyrant
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Originally posted by Firestorm
hmmmm. I do not remember Elminster being a lord there but it has been awhile since I read the older sourcebooks.
I believe one of the recent Elminster books had Storm recalling a time when she and Elminster were Lords of Waterdeep. I can't recall off hand which one or what the exact circumstances of the conversation were though.
Well met, Tyrant!
Yes I recall hearing something about new novels of Elminster, never knew they mentioned Waterdeep in those. But I shall gladly have a look and see for myself. Thank you for the information.
While I do recommend reading the books on general principle because they focus on Mystra being reborn, Manshoon, the remaining Chosen dealing without a goddess, etc., I can't recommend you read them to find out about Waterdeep. I believe that bit I mentioned was literally one line or part of one conversation. On the other hand, Mirt is in them, though he is likely no longer a Lord of Waterdeep as he has been gone for nearly a century.
Well regardless, thanks for the info on it. I do enjoy reading about Mystra and such, so that will still be enjoyable. See, Mirt kind of gave off a enigmatic vibe sometimes. Simply because he plays a big role in Waterdeep, from what little I read. Or at least it seemed that way to me. |
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