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Jeremy Grenemyer Posted - 04 Aug 2013 : 10:12:53
...ever had a one on one conversation?

I was just wondering about this as I looked at the cover of Grand History of the Realms, thinking it might be better thought of as a depiction of a scene in one of the upcoming Sundering books.

So, if they haven't spoken to one another, you think there's a chance we'll see as much in a future novel?
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The Arcanamach Posted - 10 Aug 2013 : 14:06:30
quote:
Does he get his hand cut off as well?


No. But having made it through the Spellplague intact, El tells him that his 'training is now complete' and is ushered into a meeting with Emperor Ao where his supreme evilness will attempt to bring him to the dark side, or offer him milk and cookies...I'm not sure which.
Thauranil Posted - 10 Aug 2013 : 13:10:12
quote:
Originally posted by silverwolfer

From what I read Elminster showed up and admitting to Drizzit that he was really his father, at which point he screamed No, and suddenly realized he was half human, and that is why he was not pure evil like the majority of his race.


Does he get his hand cut off as well?
BEAST Posted - 09 Aug 2013 : 21:03:29
It sure beats the "Wah-wah-wahhh" of fail!
Jeremy Grenemyer Posted - 09 Aug 2013 : 20:45:25
That was perfect. Thank you.
Kris the Grey Posted - 09 Aug 2013 : 17:22:37
Jeremy,

Perhaps this will help?

http://instantrimshot.com
Jeremy Grenemyer Posted - 09 Aug 2013 : 05:56:29
Where is the rimshot smiley when you need it?
BEAST Posted - 09 Aug 2013 : 05:13:58
quote:
Originally posted by silverwolfer

From what I read Elminster showed up and admitting to Drizzit that he was really his father, at which point he screamed No[...].

You know . . .

Drizzt also has a blue-glowing weapon that he got from someone else.

And there was also that one scene in "The Hunter's Blades Trilogy" in which Drizzt took off one of his gloves, but still had one black glove on.
silverwolfer Posted - 09 Aug 2013 : 04:06:16
From what I read Elminster showed up and admitting to Drizzit that he was really his father, at which point he screamed No, and suddenly realized he was half human, and that is why he was not pure evil like the majority of his race.
Jeremy Grenemyer Posted - 09 Aug 2013 : 04:02:22
I think a mass-letter/emailing/message boards writing campaign to WotC (started after the Sundering dies down and 5E's core rulebooks have been released) asking them to set aside a staffer to talk with Ed and others about standing NDAs and would be a good thing.

This way they can clean out the closet, so to speak, and maybe realize they've been sitting on content that would go great in whatever books they publish after the 5E Realms Campaign Book.

++++++++++++

Back on topic: so, for those who've read the latest Salvatore book, I take it no non-Salvatore characters show up (like Elminster)?

I just think it'd be interesting to see Salvatore wright Elminster and Greenwood to write Drizzt.
silverwolfer Posted - 08 Aug 2013 : 22:29:35
NDA also prevents anger , folks can be angry over what does happen, and can do fanfiction of stuff they wish to happen.

But if they relies something was considered but ignored folks get in a mighty uproar wanting it to happen and putting undue pressure on folks.

I think a good reaction to this was Lolth's trying to take over the weave.
Wooly Rupert Posted - 08 Aug 2013 : 21:31:18
quote:
Originally posted by BEAST

Wools, do you have a guesstimate as to about how much of the stuff that gets cited as NDA ever sees the light of day, eventually? About how long do we have to wait on that, on average?

Or is "NDA" just code for "legal/literary black hole"?



My information is based entirely on comments from authors here, mostly Ed.

My guesstimate is that not a lot of it sees the light of day, and what does come out is determined entirely by WotC's production.

If there was an NDA on the parentage of Bahb the Fighter, for example, the NDA would be lifted by publication of that information.

But if WotC changes plans -- as has happened many, many times -- it's cheaper and easier for them to simply leave the NDA in effect until such time as they decide to revisit Bahb. It's cheaper and easier because they don't have to review the NDA to determine the relevant subject matter, then review their plans to make sure it doesn't affect anything else, then track down all the signees, and then issue the formal release.

A lot of people have complained mightily about NDAs, and I'll agree that it is frustrating for WotC to just sit on information they'll likely never use -- especially the stuff we'd love to see. But while some have assumed malicious intent, I don't see it that way -- like I said, once an NDA is in place, it's cheaper and easier to leave it there.
Veritas Posted - 08 Aug 2013 : 20:05:46
I imagine their first encounter as Elminster getting his hands on Drizzt's journals and performing a dramatic reading at a packed inn while Drizzt fumes futilely in the room somewhere plotting his revenge prank.
BEAST Posted - 08 Aug 2013 : 19:29:08
Wools, do you have a guesstimate as to about how much of the stuff that gets cited as NDA ever sees the light of day, eventually? About how long do we have to wait on that, on average?

Or is "NDA" just code for "legal/literary black hole"?
jerrod Posted - 08 Aug 2013 : 07:36:18
Ok
Wooly Rupert Posted - 08 Aug 2013 : 06:05:58
quote:
Originally posted by silverwolfer

non drizzit agreement, any mention of drizzit and he gets hit with some sort of disclosure based on contract he may have signed.





It's actually Non-Disclosure Agreement, where the signee agrees to not share certain information. Amongst those of us here at Candlekeep, WotC is infamous for its eternal and multitudinous NDAs.

Edit: And Jeremy beat me to it, gosh darn it.
Jeremy Grenemyer Posted - 08 Aug 2013 : 06:03:20
quote:
Originally posted by jerrod

What is Nda?
It means "Non Disclosure Agreement", which prohibits the disclosure of information related to a project (however old) initiated by the owners of the Realms.
silverwolfer Posted - 08 Aug 2013 : 05:40:48
non drizzit agreement, any mention of drizzit and he gets hit with some sort of disclosure based on contract he may have signed.
jerrod Posted - 08 Aug 2013 : 05:35:38
What is Nda?
The Sage Posted - 08 Aug 2013 : 03:16:31
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by jerrod

I dnt think a good drow would be much of a new thing to elminster. After all he has had drow apprentices( remember the drow bathing in the pond by his tower in the first drow of the underdark sourcebook.)



Susprina Arkenneld. I'm still wanting to know more about her, especially when it occurred to me that we don't even know her alignment.

Agreed.

Though, unfortunately [or fortunately, depending upon your viewpoint {I'm of the former because it means we may still learn something about Susprina at a future date}], Ed's confirmed that any new information pertaining to the Drow Lady Mage is barred by NDA.
Wooly Rupert Posted - 07 Aug 2013 : 21:41:14
quote:
Originally posted by jerrod

I dnt think a good drow would be much of a new thing to elminster. After all he has had drow apprentices( remember the drow bathing in the pond by his tower in the first drow of the underdark sourcebook.)



Susprina Arkenneld. I'm still wanting to know more about her, especially when it occurred to me that we don't even know her alignment.
jerrod Posted - 07 Aug 2013 : 20:51:00
I dnt think a good drow would be much of a new thing to elminster. After all he has had drow apprentices( remember the drow bathing in the pond by his tower in the first drow of the underdark sourcebook.)
Jeremy Grenemyer Posted - 06 Aug 2013 : 16:42:17
quote:
Originally posted by BadCatMan

I don't know if you'd count it, but The Grand Tour comic has Elminster describe Drizzt and mentioned divining his future (i.e., hinting at future novels).
I'd say that counts. Awesome.

quote:
Originally posted by BadCatMan

Sad to say, they never actually met on the cover of Grand History, seeing as Drizzt was there first:
http://www.toddlockwood.com/galleries/new_art/05/grand_realms.shtml
And Elminster came along later. ;)

Aha! I didn't know that. Well, El's invisibility spell had to wear off sooner or later.
BEAST Posted - 06 Aug 2013 : 05:52:31
quote:
Originally posted by BadCatMan

I don't know if you'd count it, but The Grand Tour comic has Elminster describe Drizzt and mentioned divining his future (i.e., hinting at future novels).

Hey, cool. I don't see why that wouldn't count. It makes perfect sense. I'd say that should count.

quote:
Sad to say, they never actually met on the cover of Grand History, seeing as Drizzt was there first:
http://www.toddlockwood.com/galleries/new_art/05/grand_realms.shtml
And Elminster came along later. ;)

Is there a Realmsian "Bro Code", like when guys are standing next to each other in a public restroom, and you just don't talk or even make eye contact? Just admire the view, but pass without talking?
BadCatMan Posted - 06 Aug 2013 : 04:22:36
I don't know if you'd count it, but The Grand Tour comic has Elminster describe Drizzt and mentioned divining his future (i.e., hinting at future novels).

Sad to say, they never actually met on the cover of Grand History, seeing as Drizzt was there first:
http://www.toddlockwood.com/galleries/new_art/05/grand_realms.shtml
And Elminster came along later. ;)
SirUrza Posted - 06 Aug 2013 : 02:35:34
Eventually Drizzt walks freely in Silverymoon, so it'd be safe to assume that him and Elminster encounter eachother there.

I'd be much more interested in a long encounter between Drizzt and Quilue.
silverwolfer Posted - 06 Aug 2013 : 00:53:36
I reeeaaaally want to know, he was level 16 during the servant of the shard (3.5 E) , what level is he now with how many years he has lived.
jerrod Posted - 05 Aug 2013 : 23:54:47
Drizzt has met alustriel, encountered dove when has first came to the surface,and met kelben the black staff arunson.
Alystra Illianniis Posted - 05 Aug 2013 : 22:08:26
quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

I 'think' (if memory serves... but it might not) Elminster was mentioned off-hand in one of his MANY 'introspections' (those annoying italics parts in the beginning of some chapters).

From what I recall, it was in the tone of someone he has heard of (a famous mage to the east), rather then someone he ever met. Given his association with Alustriel, I would imagine he could have learned of El through her. By the same token, I am sure the Old Mage is aware of Drizzt (he is the ultimate busy-body, after all).

Drizzt has also interacted with at least two other of Mystra's Chosen, so he obviously has their attention.



I know he has met Dove, but other than Alustriel, I don't recall him meeting any of the others. Who was it? Not Quilue, I know. (That was Liriel who met her.) Storm is the only other one I can think of that he could have met, but I don't remember him doing so.
BEAST Posted - 05 Aug 2013 : 20:40:19
I once asked Ed in his interactive scroll, and he said they probably would've met, at some point.

But it has never been written about.

Drizzt has recognized Elminster thrice: twice in journal entries in Road of the Patriarch, P2; and The Ghost King, P2; and once when talking to Regis about the vorpal rabbits in The Pirate King, P1:C8.
silverwolfer Posted - 04 Aug 2013 : 20:42:17
Maybe not a novel, but I could certainly enjoy a short story, that they do everynow and then releasing in groups.


If that was to happen thou, I want Pikel Bouldershoulder to meet Vangerdahast Aeiulvana

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