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| silverwolfer |
Posted - 23 Jul 2013 : 22:40:03
They seem a sort of vague tie ins, with various moments of ole lore, but can't seem to really base them on anything besides a sub power on the plane of air?
They seem to be on the gods side during the dawn war, and no real reason why. |
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| Dalor Darden |
Posted - 26 Jul 2013 : 00:00:24
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Originally posted by Ayrik
Are these Wind Dukes a legacy from the earliest AD&D era, before all material about Cthulhu was deliberately excised?
The Battle on the Plains of Pesh was from the early Greyhawk Era before there was a published Forgotten Realms setting from TSR. |
| Ayrik |
Posted - 25 Jul 2013 : 23:36:38
Are these Wind Dukes a legacy from the earliest AD&D era, before all material about Cthulhu was deliberately excised? |
| Quale |
Posted - 25 Jul 2013 : 17:07:59
They were/are LN, you're right about the Devas, I wish D&D detailed more types of devas, not just those based on theosophy. My version was that in areas like Semphar (inspired by Persia) they were considered fiends (daevas), while in Malatra they were a part of divine hierarchy. That's how there's good D&D asuras, and evil Pathfinder asuras. |
| Markustay |
Posted - 24 Jul 2013 : 14:38:59
In the old Utter East thread over at WotC's forums, we tied them to the Sisters of Serentity - a group of mountains around Langdarma, which we felt were some sort of Archfey (powerful quasi-gods had a habit of becoming mountains in FR's past) that had 'gone dormant'.
And of course, as Quale pointed out, that all ties into Langdarma's (and the Utter East's) proximity to FR's 'Indianesque' region.
Back that far in (planer) history, there were less planes, perhaps only one, and the divisions between Outsiders wasn't as set-in-stone, so perhaps using terms like 'Archfey' and 'Elemental lord' (etc) doesn't really apply back that far. The Vaati were just one more group of powerful outsiders/Celestials. This is why they are so hard to define in current D&D terminology. They may have just been a very specific branch of Devas with elemental leanings. |
| Quale |
Posted - 24 Jul 2013 : 14:33:03
They are based on Indian mythology (Vaayu), Maharsarpa camaign from Oriental Adventures had them. In the Realms that would be Malatra or the Utter East. I think the Vaati-obyrith war was before the planes divided into inner-outer. |
| Dalor Darden |
Posted - 24 Jul 2013 : 00:13:11
The Wind Dukes of Aaqa:
Canon: a race that founded a cross-planar empire ages ago. They were at the forefront of the confrontation against the Queen of Chaos which culminated in a mighty battle on the Plains of Pesh (a place in Greyhawk). They still exist in very small numbers, and are part of the Planescape setting as well as still having a close tie to any world you use the Rod of Seven Parts in.
NOT Canon: I played the Wind Dukes as a very powerful Empire that had many mortal client Kingdoms/Empires stretching throughout the planes. In my own campaign, their primary mortal followers were the Alphatian "Followers of Air" who eventually defeated the followers of Flame in the Mystara Universe. I tied THAT Empire to the Suel (of Greyhawk) in minor ways, as well as the planes walking Empire of Imaskar...and others that I won't go into.
The Wind Dukes of Aaqa are individually very powerful, but fading. In their prime they were essentially a race of Demi-Gods capable of great and powerful feats. They are a rarity among air creatures in that they are EXCEEDINGLY lawful. Had it not been for the war of Law vs. Chaos, they might have remained one of the premier forces in the Multi-verse. |
| Therise |
Posted - 23 Jul 2013 : 23:24:56
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Originally posted by silverwolfer
So something that sort of bled into the background, but not really part of it?
It depends on how you want to include the history. Specifically, the ancient war between Law and Chaos played out in the history of Greyhawk and had some impact on that world.
But if you consider Planescape to include/allow crossover of the various worlds (and at the time of Planescape, they certainly did), the the War happened in Faerun's distant past as well. It's just that it (probably) had more of an impact on Greyhawk's history than Faerun's history.
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| silverwolfer |
Posted - 23 Jul 2013 : 23:18:26
So something that sort of bled into the background, but not really part of it? |
| Wooly Rupert |
Posted - 23 Jul 2013 : 23:09:21
They were involved in an ancient conflict betwixt Law and Chaos, and used the Rod of Seven Parts to defeat the champion of Chaos, Miska the Wolf-Spider.
I don't know that we know all that much about them. They are D&D Core, not FR-specific. |
