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| Shadowlord |
Posted - 19 Jan 2004 : 03:22:48
In response to some posts I found in this scroll http://www.candlekeep.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1450 (Please read the scroll first) I am starting The Faults of Cyric Thread. During the time that this scroll was written, I was indisposed with Vhaeraun's holy day, The Masked Lord's Embrace, but I am back with a vengeance! 
There is no way that Cyric could take on the Seldarine, or even the Drow Deities of the Demonweb because he is utterly insane! He tries to create chaos and strife within his own chruch only! He's almost as bad as that spider-kisser Lolth! Ezinder the Dark, my loyal friend, was correct in this much. Cyric, it would be good if you visited this topic and defended your mad god, as you will probably be the only one who will.
If anyone has thoughts they would like to voice about Cyric(the deity, not the scribe), his faults, his mistakes, and so on, Please Post.
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| 30 L A T E S T R E P L I E S (Newest First) |
| Shadowlord |
Posted - 25 Jan 2004 : 17:04:45
Ahem, I SAID I was sorry about the grammar....... And Naroon, the cleric of Corellon/Sehanine is having exams.....and was unable to log in lately..... |
| Cyric |
Posted - 25 Jan 2004 : 16:11:33
you speak truth Reowyn, Cyric does his part. |
| Bookwyrm |
Posted - 25 Jan 2004 : 07:02:24
Sorry, Alaundo, if you object let me know, but this is (in my opinion) important to the functioning of these forums.
quote:
Originally posted by Roewyn
quote:
Did you even read my post?  
Yes indeed I read that but also another about Cyric's grammer mistakes, I remember you also did the same to Dracandos for a while ago. I may overreacted about your last post but it triggered me to protest your expertness on the linguistics.
Protest my expertness on the linguistics? First, I've never claimed to be an expert. Second, you shouldn't protest someone for being an expert -- which, again, I'm not. I help out when people need it. It's what teachers do. You don't want to learn, fine, don't pay attention. Cyric didn't complain, did he? What right do you have to do so?
You did overreact. You acted as if I insulted Shadowlord (which I didn't), lectured everyone here about proper English (again, did not), and acted as if English is a superior language (which it is most certainly not). Next time, read carefully before making such insulting mistakes.
quote:
Originally posted by mr.lee
Look, Roewyn.... Do not make a fool of yourself! Who's got 4 posts, and who's got over 2600??? Just shut up and listen to the MASTER of Realmslore....
I agree with you bookwyrm...
-mr.lee
Thank you, Mr. Lee, but I'm afraid I have to set some things straight here as well.
Just because I have (at the time of this post) 2690 posts does not mean I know more than Roewyn. And don't take him to task for challenging a more "senior" scribe; not only did he do nothing wrong, I did a very similar thing at the start of my own stay here. The only thing Roewyn did wrong, in fact, was be rude. Excessively so, in my opinion, though I can understand where he might have felt justification (even though I disagree with said justification).
Additionally, I do not claim to be a master of Realmslore. That's simply the title given to scribes with over 2000 posts. Those who were here when that happened to me will recall I protested the title on those grounds.
quote:
Originally posted by Roewyn
[...] I won't swallow my words because of anything
Respect is important and I did not insult anyone when I put my argument so you better show some respect too.
That I disagree with. Not the first part -- that is to be commended, so long as you never make the mistake of not admitting mistakes. I've known far too many people like that.
What I disagree with is what I've already stated -- I think you were rude, for the reasons that again I have already stated. Respect is earned, not granted. Politeness is another thing entirely.
Now, I believe I've beaten this to death. Everyone please go back to the topic. Thank you. |
| Cherrn |
Posted - 25 Jan 2004 : 02:55:35
That was very well said Roewyn. Indeed one who is prepared to die for another being deserves respect. |
| Roewyn |
Posted - 24 Jan 2004 : 22:18:49
quote:
Originally posted by Arteris
Why would anyone respect an insane god?... I know I dont
Everyone promising hope or fighting to do his or her duty deserves respect.
And I think everyone even mighty deities of heavens are for a greater cause.If there was no evil there would be no good too.
Guilty justifies the innocent. |
| Arteris |
Posted - 24 Jan 2004 : 18:41:35
Why would anyone respect an insane god?... I know I dont |
| Cyric |
Posted - 24 Jan 2004 : 16:57:25
I hope so then all wil se that Cyric is all powerful and wil crush all of his foes. And Roewyn finaley a soul who understand a bit about Cyric and respect him . |
| Roewyn |
Posted - 24 Jan 2004 : 13:21:12
quote:
Originally posted by mr.lee
Look, Roewyn.... Do not make a fool of yourself! Who's got 4 posts, and who's got over 2600??? Just shut up and listen to the MASTER of Realmslore....
I agree with you bookwyrm...
-mr.lee
Mr Lee I may have 4 posts but when I have sth to say, I just say it. Number of posts count only for his or her knowlage about realms. I know Bookwyrm is one of the best on realms lore in Candlekeep but I won't swallow my words because of anything
Respect is important and I did not insult anyone when I put my argument so you better show some respect too.
Well I meant that Cyric wants no ally stronger than him, I believe ,for he wants to be no puppet.And Shar is obviously after some secret schemes and may use Cyric for her cause if Cyric thinks the terms are for his good also, he may participate.But I think that the only alliance will be against Mystra and that might lead to a new god's war. |
| mr.lee |
Posted - 24 Jan 2004 : 12:47:08
Look, Roewyn.... Do not make a fool of yourself! Who's got 4 posts, and who's got over 2600??? Just shut up and listen to the MASTER of Realmslore....
I agree with you bookwyrm...
-mr.lee
edit: Roewyn: info on how to quote:
Press the grey button over your textbox that says quote. (Sheet of paper + red arrow) Press the Ibutton, and insert Originally posted by <Username>. Then you can paste in your answer......
Tip: hit "Preview" before you post the message, so you can be sure you got it right! |
| Roewyn |
Posted - 24 Jan 2004 : 12:24:11
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Did you even read my post?
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Yes indeed I read that but also another about Cyric's grammer mistakes, I remember you also did the same to Dracandos for a while ago. I may overreacted about your last post but it triggered me to protest your expertness on the linguistics.
Sorry Alaundo two posts way of the topic, it won't happen agian. |
| Alaundo |
Posted - 24 Jan 2004 : 10:02:29
Well met
AHEM! I believe we were discussing the faults of........dare I utter his name.....Cyric!
Im sure no offence was meant here by any scribes, so lets get back to the topic.
Thank ye |
| Bookwyrm |
Posted - 24 Jan 2004 : 05:58:10
quote:
Originally posted by Roewyn
ohh man, What's that?
Bookwyrm, I don't think noone writes better or worse than he or she speaks, don't teach people grammer it's not your duty to judge people's english as long as we understand eachother
Shadowlord sad he was sorry
but let's not forget that's -at least I believe- an international forum English is just a choosen way of communication
There was no reason to be arrogant and will not be.
Did you even read my post? |
| Cyric |
Posted - 24 Jan 2004 : 00:07:40
So true some people write English bad some god, just as we understand one and other.
And what othere gods Cyric dont ned no other gods, Shar and Cyric are the future. And they are afraid of him, since very few gods are as powerful as Cyric. |
| Roewyn |
Posted - 23 Jan 2004 : 22:31:35
ohh man, What's that?
Bookwyrm, I don't think noone writes better or worse than he or she speaks, don't teach people grammer it's not your duty to judge people's english as long as we understand eachother
Shadowlord sad he was sorry
but let's not forget that's -at least I believe- an international forum English is just a choosen way of communication
There was no reason to be arrogant and will not be.
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| Ezindir the dark |
Posted - 23 Jan 2004 : 14:30:08
There are also errors I think that do come becouse people just are too lazy too do a really look-over on their posts, this includes me. Errors like: doning(doing) or teh(the) I often have in my posts. |
| Naroon Shimmerflow |
Posted - 23 Jan 2004 : 14:14:19
As bookwyrm pointed out, i dont think Shadowlord tried to be mean, and i hope people tell me if I have some bad grammar errors that I`m doing all the time
No hard feelings Shadowlord, my drow friend
Where are that Sehanine cleric you were talking about? You have to introduce me to her |
| Bookwyrm |
Posted - 23 Jan 2004 : 07:34:05
Indeed. Shadowlord, while you've certainly appologized properly, I'd like to point out a simple rule of thumb I use. If the person's ID box lists a country, I both assume that's where they're from and that the official language of that country is that person's primary language. If the country is one where English isn't a native language, I give the member a lot of tolerance for grammar and spelling (and especially for the latter, which I'm not so good at myself), and may help out some.
If, however, the person's country is Australia, Canada, Ireland, New Zealand, the United Kingdom, or the United States, I will hold them to a standard where the person actually writes without butchering the language. This includes careless spelling, grammar, and "chatspeak."
If the person's box lists no country, or a country where English is known but uses different rules (I've known a lot of Africans who speak English while using strange-sounding grammar as a standard), then I wait until I form a conclusion about them.
For instance, I've drawn the conclusion that Dracandos is American, and so hold him to the standards listed above. (Dracandos, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think I am.) He prefers to write in chatspeak, and so doesn't meet my private standards, but I hold no power over him, so I don't attempt to change him beyond the occasional polite request.
A lot of people don't meet these standards, while many exceed them. I don't condemn them for the former, though; at the most, I'll ask them to change (in regards to chatspeak) or let them know when they're doing something wrong (in regards to those for whom English is a second language).
That said, Shadowlord, I am well aware of the fact that the standard language of this forum is English. I see no reason why you can't point out errors when needed -- so long as you do so in a polite form. I can tell that you meant no harm (the to end the post should conveyed that to all), though you could have phrased it better. Certainly anyone with top grades in an LA course should aid those who will let him; just make sure you don't insult those who could whup your hiny in their native language. 
Now, to get this back on course -- Cyric sucks! |
| Naroon Shimmerflow |
Posted - 23 Jan 2004 : 05:03:50
Shadowlord do not make fun of our grammar and spelling, as Ezindir said english is a second lanuage to us.
Actually I don`t mind , self-irony is a very important thing
By the way, how many lanuages do you speak?
And just to keep the topic going; I don`t think Cyric is able to make an alliance with anyone, he is doomed to try to back stab them when he got what he needed, this makes him a not very high priority by other goods.
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| Shadowlord |
Posted - 23 Jan 2004 : 00:48:25
You are right, of course. Cyric, please accpet my most humble apologies. I understand that English is a second language for you and that you are trying your best. However, I have an A+ in my Language Arts class, and its kind of hard for me to understand bad grammar. My most sincere apologies. |
| Dracandos the Spellsage |
Posted - 23 Jan 2004 : 00:28:03
quote:
Originally posted by Ezindir the dark
I think he acctually is doning pretty good.
LOL |
| Ezindir the dark |
Posted - 22 Jan 2004 : 22:34:20
Even tought it seemes that I always seemes too follow you this time I cant.
This is becose I think your post against Cyric was rather mean,
I mean he comes from a country (same as me) where the president says daybook instead of diary, so I think he acctually is doning pretty good. |
| Shadowlord |
Posted - 22 Jan 2004 : 20:36:42
Can you repeat that without the spelling and gramatical errors please? |
| Cyric |
Posted - 22 Jan 2004 : 14:00:04
He live in the Abyss i would not think him worthy to souch a thing... |
| Dracandos the Spellsage |
Posted - 22 Jan 2004 : 01:11:50
quote:
Originally posted by Shadowlord
Cyric, you mentioned my god burning in the Abyss? Hes already there, in a subplane called Carceri. You can do better.
well met my friend...it seems Shadowlord just pointed out a mistake by the great Cyric...hmmm??? |
| Shadowlord |
Posted - 21 Jan 2004 : 20:30:02
Cyric, you mentioned my god burning in the Abyss? Hes already there, in a subplane called Carceri. You can do better. |
| Cyric |
Posted - 21 Jan 2004 : 20:27:05
So true Roewyn and exept the killing all life they are kind of the same. |
| lowtech |
Posted - 21 Jan 2004 : 17:27:34
I wasn't impressed with the insane version of Cyric, but I kind of like the newest incarnation. It kind of reminds me of Loki... |
| Naroon Shimmerflow |
Posted - 21 Jan 2004 : 15:57:31
quote:
Originally posted by Reowyn
Well, I think Cyric had been no fool even he was utterly insane. He forfills his duties as a lord of murder and lies very well.
For me he and his kind is the reason of the existence of the good.
Don't forget evil destroys itself and good is too naive to be the victorious in even in a perfect world. Balance of the purest evil and the purest good is needed for survival.
Indeed Reowyn. But good prevails and as you say evil destroy itself
Originally posted by Cherrn
quote:
Originally posted by Cyric
Bhaal deservce respect for just that killing
Im still amazed that a known Cyricist said someone was worthy of his god's respect. Sounds like a soft worshiper I think ]
I do agree Cherrn, i does not sound very good from a cyricist |
| Cherrn |
Posted - 21 Jan 2004 : 15:31:31
quote:
Originally posted by Cyric
Bhaal deservce respect for just that killing.
Im still amazed that a known Cyricist said someone was worthy of his god's respect. Sounds like a soft worshiper I think |
| Ezindir the dark |
Posted - 21 Jan 2004 : 14:21:40
quote:
Originally posted by Cyric
And Cyric has no faults.
How blind it is possible to be? |
