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Dracandos the Spellsage Posted - 18 Dec 2003 : 22:40:38
i have Espruar(elven), Dethek, (dwarven) and Thorass(an ancient form of our common tongue) does any1 have any other FR language fonts???

i really wanna get the Ruathlek font but as far as i know 1 doesnt exist(ive searched 4 a long time). actually i could make it if some1 at least knows what they look like, does any1 have pictures of the characters in Ruathlek???
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The Sage Posted - 24 Jul 2010 : 04:49:12
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

Yes, Ruathlek has "three-dimensional" characters that "rise up" (as minor illusions) from the surface they're written on, coded meanings and modifiers "written into" the individual letters (that illusionists can interpret), and an entire layer of meanings/additional messages revealed only to those able to use illusionist magic ["Read Illusionist Magic" is how Gary Gygax originally entitled the relevant spell; I forget if it made it into print under that name, though].
Ah, the joys of being old and remembering the root lore...
love,
THO

I've heard it said that with age comes experience. But, at the same time, you shouldn't let labels, like "being old," define what you are and how you feel at this moment. That's how others may see and define you. Ultimately, what's important, is how you see yourself.

...

Oh, and if I can only remember half as much Realmslore as you do now, when I also approach the stage of what some regarded as "old," I'll consider it a life well-lived.
Wooly Rupert Posted - 24 Jul 2010 : 04:30:50
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

Yes, Ruathlek has "three-dimensional" characters that "rise up" (as minor illusions) from the surface they're written on, coded meanings and modifiers "written into" the individual letters (that illusionists can interpret), and an entire layer of meanings/additional messages revealed only to those able to use illusionist magic ["Read Illusionist Magic" is how Gary Gygax originally entitled the relevant spell; I forget if it made it into print under that name, though].
Ah, the joys of being old and remembering the root lore...
love,
THO



Old? I just see an experienced woman willing to teach a less-experienced man (or hamster!) some really interesting things!
The Hooded One Posted - 23 Jul 2010 : 23:36:59
Yes, Ruathlek has "three-dimensional" characters that "rise up" (as minor illusions) from the surface they're written on, coded meanings and modifiers "written into" the individual letters (that illusionists can interpret), and an entire layer of meanings/additional messages revealed only to those able to use illusionist magic ["Read Illusionist Magic" is how Gary Gygax originally entitled the relevant spell; I forget if it made it into print under that name, though].
Ah, the joys of being old and remembering the root lore...
love,
THO
LordXenophon Posted - 23 Jul 2010 : 09:38:24
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

Well, I know of no such website that holds any 'official' interpretation on the appearance and meaning of the Illusionists' Ruathlek language. Ruathlek, by it's very nature is a 'secret language', and therefore rarely found outside of Illusionist circles, and/or guilds.


I'm pretty sure one of the very early FR books had an "official" Ruathlek alphabet.

However, to represent Ruathlek as a simple, written alphabet should be impossible. According to many books in which Ruathlek is mentioned, it is also mentioned that Illusion magic is a major component of the language. This is why it takes an Illusionist to read Illusionist scrolls and spellbooks.

This is perhaps not so important these days, but back when Illusionist was a distinct class, completely apart from the Mage class and having only seven spell levels, this was a critical point.
3catcircus Posted - 18 Feb 2007 : 23:50:55
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

Have you tried the sites we've already mentioned above 3cat?




Yup - I've already got all of those fonts. The 3rd edition Thorass font was mentioned by someone, somewhere as being a work in progress. However, as with much of the internet, their home page is a dead link...
The Sage Posted - 17 Feb 2007 : 08:20:25
Have you tried the sites we've already mentioned above 3cat?
3catcircus Posted - 17 Feb 2007 : 04:20:50
Whatever happened to the 3rd edition version of Thorass font? IIRC, someone was working on it but I've never seen it.
Gray Richardson Posted - 15 Feb 2007 : 06:20:11
The font you are refering to I believe is actually the original Espruar font. In the 1e & 2e Realms, there was a completely different Espruar alphabet. You can find it in the old FR box set. It was kind of clunky and didn't really have an elven flair, so for 3E they had an artist redesign the Espruar script to look more elven.

The new one is very pretty and I think a great success. When you see it, you certainly think "elvish". However, the old one has it's charms.

My solution is to consider the older Espruar to be the Hamarfae alphabet used to write the ancient elven language of Seldruin used in high magic rituals.

Or, alternatively, you could consider the older font to be a collection of magical symbols, runes, ligatures and special characters used in magic, elven heraldry or for other specialized purposes.

Jamallo Kreen Posted - 15 Feb 2007 : 02:55:09
quote:
Originally posted by Alaundo

quote:
Originally posted by hoskinmage

im new at this ive been reading forgotten realms for a long time my first book was azura bonds. i may have missed it but if someone could tell me how to go about finding the forgotten realms fonts and may be a guide to it? ive been wondering if anyone could help me with it i would be greatful



Well met

We have a number of fonts here at Candlekeep available for download (including language fonts). These can be found at this location. Hope this is of help



Alaundo, I continue to be amazed by the wealth of lore secreted in the nooks and crannies and extra-dimensional spaces of Candlekeep!

With over a thousand fonts on my itty-bitty computer, I have to pay attention to those which don't work or are just plain wrong. I therefore caution those who get their fonts from elsewhere to beware of a True Type Font called "Espruar" -- which ain't. The Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting has illustrations of Espruar, Dethek, and Thorass (?), and the font of which I speak most definitely isn't Espruar. Caveat calligrapher.


hoskinmage Posted - 14 Feb 2007 : 15:33:17
i really apreciate the help. im not used to posting on line but i think this site maybe the exception. my boys are really enjoy the campains and they want me to show them how to dm so if you have any pointers i could relay to them so there first session would be a good one.i hope it is so i can play insted of dming.
thanks hoskinmage
Alaundo Posted - 12 Feb 2007 : 09:05:07
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

Also, have you tried the "Northern Journey" campaign site?

As I recall, they have a selection of FR fonts stored there as well.




WEll met

Indeed. Northern Journey is located here
The Sage Posted - 11 Feb 2007 : 23:24:35
Also, have you tried the "Northern Journey" campaign site?

As I recall, they have a selection of FR fonts stored there as well.
Alaundo Posted - 11 Feb 2007 : 23:20:47
quote:
Originally posted by hoskinmage

im new at this ive been reading forgotten realms for a long time my first book was azura bonds. i may have missed it but if someone could tell me how to go about finding the forgotten realms fonts and may be a guide to it? ive been wondering if anyone could help me with it i would be greatful



Well met

We have a number of fonts here at Candlekeep available for download (including language fonts). These can be found at this location. Hope this is of help
hoskinmage Posted - 11 Feb 2007 : 20:53:50
im new at this ive been reading forgotten realms for a long time my first book was azura bonds. i may have missed it but if someone could tell me how to go about finding the forgotten realms fonts and may be a guide to it? ive been wondering if anyone could help me with it i would be greatful


hoskinmage
Dracandos the Spellsage Posted - 14 Jan 2004 : 02:55:21
quote:
Originally posted by Shadowlord

quote:I live to serve, Vhaeraun of course,


of course
Shadowlord Posted - 13 Jan 2004 : 02:45:30
quote:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Originally posted by Shadowlord

Hmmm, you do have a point.... However, its not always a bad thing to bend/shirk around the rules and official material. Wait, you're writing a book??? Oh, that puts an entirely new perspective on this topic..... Well, never fear, I'm sure we'll find something....
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my thanks Shadowlord, ur confidence gives me strength


Not at all, Dracandos, I live to serve, Vhaeraun of course,
Garen Thal Posted - 12 Jan 2004 : 23:32:46
For those that might be looking, I've found an impressive font for the new (3rd Edition) Espruar script. It lacks the digraph characters ("Th" "ch" "sh" and "ng"), but it is a start.

The font can be found at http://www.deviantart.com/view/3020856/.
Dracandos the Spellsage Posted - 12 Jan 2004 : 21:38:16
quote:
Originally posted by Shadowlord

Hmmm, you do have a point.... However, its not always a bad thing to bend/shirk around the rules and official material. Wait, you're writing a book??? Oh, that puts an entirely new perspective on this topic..... Well, never fear, I'm sure we'll find something....


my thanks Shadowlord, ur confidence gives me strength

quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

quote:
Originally posted by Dracandos the Spellsage

yeah but when ur tryin 2 write a book set in the FR, n u make reference 2 somethin that actually does exist in the realms (like Ruathlek), u cant make somethin up 4 it. u know?

That may be a consideration, but if no 'official' material on the subject in question exists in the first place, then you really do not have much of a problem creating something new that you can reference for your 'book'. This would only really be a concern, if you intend to publish this 'book' which you say you are writing.

It is afterall, how most of the new FR 'official' material comes into being...


i do hope 2 have it published, but of course it would have 2 be a actual FR book becuz otherwise, itd be HUGE plagerism(sp?) i know thats a giant long shot but...id really like 2 be an author 4 the FR, does any1 know how 1 would go about doin that?
The Sage Posted - 09 Jan 2004 : 05:50:34
quote:
Originally posted by Dracandos the Spellsage

yeah but when ur tryin 2 write a book set in the FR, n u make reference 2 somethin that actually does exist in the realms (like Ruathlek), u cant make somethin up 4 it. u know?

That may be a consideration, but if no 'official' material on the subject in question exists in the first place, then you really do not have much of a problem creating something new that you can reference for your 'book'. This would only really be a concern, if you intend to publish this 'book' which you say you are writing.

It is afterall, how most of the new FR 'official' material comes into being...
Shadowlord Posted - 09 Jan 2004 : 00:32:59
Hmmm, you do have a point.... However, its not always a bad thing to bend/shirk around the rules and official material. Wait, you're writing a book??? Oh, that puts an entirely new perspective on this topic..... Well, never fear, I'm sure we'll find something....
Dracandos the Spellsage Posted - 08 Jan 2004 : 23:03:07
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

Oh forget that . Making things up is part of what makes roleplaying with D&D great...


quote:
Originally posted by Shadowlord

true, if no one made anything up, there would be no Forgotten Realms at all. I say, be creative and create your own version!



yeah but when ur tryin 2 write a book set in the FR, n u make reference 2 somethin that actually does exist in the realms (like Ruathlek), u cant make somethin up 4 it. u know?
Shadowlord Posted - 08 Jan 2004 : 05:09:27
true, if no one made anything up, there would be no Forgotten Realms at all. I say, be creative and create your own version!
The Sage Posted - 08 Jan 2004 : 03:11:29
Oh forget that . Making things up is part of what makes roleplaying with D&D great...
Dracandos the Spellsage Posted - 08 Jan 2004 : 01:54:53
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

[quote]You're not going to try your hand at perhaps creating your own interpretation of the Illusionist language?

i easily could, but i want 1 thats official, not just 1 i made up, u know?
The Sage Posted - 06 Jan 2004 : 12:21:56
quote:
Originally posted by Dracandos the Spellsage

quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

What do you intend to do now then, Dracandos?


it apears that i will have 2 let this matter drop since no1 has anything about this topic

You're not going to try your hand at perhaps creating your own interpretation of the Illusionist language?.
Shadowlord Posted - 04 Jan 2004 : 20:30:28
Yes, the language of illusionists is rather illusive by its very nature.
Dracandos the Spellsage Posted - 04 Jan 2004 : 19:33:18
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

What do you intend to do now then, Dracandos?


it apears that i will have 2 let this matter drop since no1 has anything about this topic
Shadowlord Posted - 04 Jan 2004 : 14:05:55
Sorry to say, gnomes repulse me. However, we all have an option to choose an avatar we prefer, no matter how ugly it is.
Bookwyrm Posted - 04 Jan 2004 : 09:10:21
I didn't say I thought it was a gnome. (Though I might have elsewhere.) However, it does have a rather large nose, and the beard isn't as long as dwarves like it. So I figured it was a gnome.
The Sage Posted - 04 Jan 2004 : 01:42:24
What do you intend to do now then, Dracandos?


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