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| Hymn |
Posted - 07 Dec 2003 : 21:47:15
I am looking for info on Caer Calidyrr. I know there's a 2ed book on the Moonshae but I dont have it. So any info the city besides the one that stands in the FR camp book would be good. |
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| Hymn |
Posted - 12 Dec 2003 : 21:36:48
lol, so it seems. I have been gone for a long time :-) |
| Arion Elenim |
Posted - 12 Dec 2003 : 16:43:16
All good points, my friends... |
| The Sage |
Posted - 12 Dec 2003 : 12:37:24
Sorry Hymn, but I beat you to it...
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| Hymn |
Posted - 12 Dec 2003 : 11:10:30
Not the info I really need, but I might add something to it any way :-)
[As told by Jeff Grubb on rec.games.frp.dnd]
Way back when Dragonlance was fresh and new and Forgotten Realms was just getting its start as a game product in design, there was going to be a "British Dragonlance" product from TSR. TSR UK was to produce the game material, and Doug Niles was to write the novel - the novel that became Darkwalker on Moonshae. They were supposed to work together.
Bad things happened, from a business side, and TSR UK stopped producing creative work (they let their designers go and reverted to merely selling TSR material from the states). The British DL never happened. Doug had a half-written book and no world to put it in.
At the same time, Ed and I were working on what would become the original "slate-grey" FR box. We had a world, but no novels as yet. The appearance of Darkwalker made it possible to get an FR book out with the boxed set - in fact, to get the book out FIRST.
We looked at Doug's book and Ed's World. It was a good fit, both being rooted strongly in "traditional fantasy." Compromises were made. Doug took the name of extant island grouping in the Realms. Ed accepted the change of the appearance of the islands (they were an arching archipelgio as opposed to british-shaped chunk). The world was new and we had not published yet.
It WAS a good fit. Doug finished his tale in the Realms, the Realms itself launched with a strong book, and we established the Realms as a place of many visions - Doug, Bob, myself, Ed, and those who have followed.
[An addendum by Ed Greenwood]
The 'original' Moonshaes are akin to LeGuin's Earthsea: hundreds of little islands, long-extinct volcanic peaks that rise up out of the sea abruptly, are inhabited by fisherfolk (with a few larger islands that have forests, farms, etc.) nothing much above the rural village culture on most, with self-styled 'lords' on others...and like Earthsea, somewhat like the Celtic-era Hebrides...they occupy the same space as TSR's (Doug Niles's) Moonshaes, arcing from a 'wide spray' at the Sword Coast or eastward extent, curving and narrowing southwest and curving to south...in other words, a large area of 'perilous sea' with awash rocks, reefs, etc. and safe channels that only the locals know.
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| The Sage |
Posted - 12 Dec 2003 : 05:39:21
Actually, I will admit that the Moonshaes have never featured prominently in any FR campaign I have ever run. Although like Mournblade, I enjoy the cultural and historical significance of the region, I can never seem to find the 'right' type of adventure to run that doesn't seem like it has a theme that has been lifted out of a Norman/English history book.
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| Bookwyrm |
Posted - 12 Dec 2003 : 00:07:00
Shhh!  They might hear you . . . . |
| Mournblade |
Posted - 11 Dec 2003 : 23:17:14
quote:
Originally posted by ArionElenim
Are we all in agreement that the Moonshaes are Faerun's answer to Ireland?
Evidence:
1) the Moonshae accent "brogue"
2) the constant references in lore to the rolling hills and valleys
3) the earthy "druidic" nature of the clerics and such (as would be appropriate in Ireland in the Middle Ages).....
4) beards, beards and more beards 
Any thoughts?
Well I think the Moonshae's is the realms answer to anything Celtic. They have an Isle called MORAY, which besides being the name of a particular area of Scotland, is described in the fr supplement very similar to Scotland. THen it also has an Island named Snowdown which just reminds me of Snowdonia in Wales. I also think they mention a Dragon living in Snowdown that is significant... Hmmmmm.... Sounds familiar? I bet it is red. Also the fact that the Northmen are (or were) such a problem points to the struggle that Scotland, IReland, and England had with the Vikings. In my campaign I have also made Alaronthe realms equivalent to Norman England. I love the Moonshaes, both because of its very Celtic background, and two because it is an area that has been left quite alone by the writers. With Hasbro taking over the helm, I am finding myself more and more thankful that there are areas untouched. |
| Arion Elenim |
Posted - 11 Dec 2003 : 21:56:52
Are we all in agreement that the Moonshaes are Faerun's answer to Ireland?
Evidence:
1) the Moonshae accent "brogue"
2) the constant references in lore to the rolling hills and valleys
3) the earthy "druidic" nature of the clerics and such (as would be appropriate in Ireland in the Middle Ages).....
4) beards, beards and more beards
Any thoughts?
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| Faraer |
Posted - 11 Dec 2003 : 02:14:17
Part of FA1 Halls of the High King takes place in Caer Callidyrr, and it has a partial map of the castle.
FA1 is the second of the two Moonshavian game products, a great Ed Greenwood adventure module that came out the same month as FR11. That was a good month for the Realms.
http://www.rpgnow.com/product_info.php?products_id=848&
http://www.rpgnow.com/product_info.php?products_id=828& |
| The Sage |
Posted - 11 Dec 2003 : 01:06:21
I'll look again through the Moonshae tome, but it has very little detail on the actual city itself. Still, I might find something...
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| Hymn |
Posted - 10 Dec 2003 : 08:29:16
Thnx, info on the city is what I basicly wants. I guess I can work something out by the info you gave me here. But any more hints on the layout of the city, so that I can draw some maps, would be a most welcome thing. If nothing more then, "- The Palace of the High King is famously known as the greatest structure anywhere on the Isles" , can be found that will do as well.
Thnx again for your time on this :-) |
| The Sage |
Posted - 09 Dec 2003 : 01:05:30
Well...
Here's some interesting facts about Caer Calidyrr -
- It is the oldest and mightiest nation on the Ffolk
- The Palace of the High King is famously known as the greatest structure anywhere on the Isles
- The Palace is the center of magic, and the arcane spellcasters of the realm hold the High Council ear
- Calidyrr is the most prosperous and 'civilised' realm on the Moonshae
- It is resource rich (timber and iron) and has a number of significant metal mining operations (gold, silver, and other precious metals)
- Callidyrr receives more visitors from the mainland (mostly the Sword Coast) than any other realm in the Moonshae
- Because of this, Callidyrr has a highly intergrated population comprised of many different natives from many different nations
- Most of the land is gently rolling hills
- Several well maintain roads criss-cross the land, connecting distant regions in the north and south - mainly from the capital
- Dernall Forest (the largest woodland region on the Isles) is a home to roving bands of brigands and cutthroats. It is said that the High King himself fears entering this forest, even with his militia
Just let me know what else (specifically) you would like to know...
Not much is written on the city itself. I'll try and summarise the most important points and post them here later.
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