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| Aryalómė |
Posted - 23 Mar 2011 : 23:53:21
Are there any playable fey races other than Elves in 3.5e and lower? I' really interested in the Eladrin amd leShay. I've tried to find info on the leSha but have come up dry. |
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| Gyor |
Posted - 29 Aug 2013 : 04:31:02
Leshay actually have a kingdom in 4e FR, and yes I know you don't want 4e stats, but the article on DDI on Sarifal may have useful lore for you. |
| Hawkins |
Posted - 28 Aug 2013 : 22:15:18
Wow. I had forgotten about this scroll. If anyone is interested, I have converted the LeShay into a player race with a 25-level racial class for Pathfinder, and created some class archetypes for it. You can find it HERE on my blog. |
| Barastir |
Posted - 28 Aug 2013 : 12:09:31
Aryalómė, I know I'm two years late, but I just saw this post and realized no one mentioned the Eladrin. Have you checked the 2e PlaneScape Warriors of Heaven accessory? |
| Quale |
Posted - 07 Aug 2012 : 08:58:57
My favourite part of the Tall Tales is the fey origins myth, you can also combine it with the le shay origins and even the fall of Ladinion (from Monster Mythology)
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Originally posted by Erendriel Durothil
Oh, they sound interesting! Can you provide links, please? :)
I don't know, google, these are old, you can download Creatures of Light and Shadow from the WotC site
http://web.archive.org/web/20081206124159/http://www.wizards.com/dnd/files/Blood%20Spawn2.pdf |
| Aryalómė |
Posted - 06 Aug 2012 : 20:21:22
Indeed, though I wish they'd make the Sidhe more accurate instead of being of any race's appearance.
Oh, the whole embarrassing leShay thing happened a long time ago; I'd rather forget about it (lol). |
| MalariaMoon |
Posted - 06 Aug 2012 : 14:39:57
Tall Tales of the Wee Folk was an awesome book. Designed for the (non-Advanced) Dungeons and Dragons if I remember correctly, in the Mystara campaign world. Loads of interesting fae races, including several which never found their way into mainstream D&D usage. I don't think there were any LeShay though.
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| Aryalómė |
Posted - 06 Aug 2012 : 13:06:57
Oh, they sound interesting! Can you provide links, please? :) |
| Quale |
Posted - 06 Aug 2012 : 08:00:46
I'd add Van Richten's Guide to the Shadow Fey, or Birthright's Creatures of Light and Shadow
and The Little People (3rd party source) is decent |
| Aryalómė |
Posted - 05 Aug 2012 : 21:42:40
I thought I'd do a little thread necromancy because I've been finding some rather obscure sourcebooks that detail some fae races.
Some books that I've found that feature them are:
The Complete Guide to Fey, by Goodman Games
Tall Tales of the Wee Folk, an AD&D supplement
Savage Species, a 3(.5?) supplement that has all sorts of monster characters available for PCs.
These are all very interesting books. I like TCGF (so close...lol) the best in terms of overall content. Next I would say that Tall Tales of the Wee Folk is very good too, though it's still a bit ambiguous towards some things that need to be more clearly defined (yes, we're talking about the fae here...). Savage Species just has some racial write ups.
And, ah, could we put some of my less glowing replies up there in a box, buried deep in the abyss of the ocean? I was rather.....immature acting, it seems now and must have not been thinking because it looks very ugly now. |
| Hoondatha |
Posted - 27 Mar 2011 : 14:53:07
Yep. He doesn't post around here very often any more, though. Good to see you back, Dag, no matter how temporarily. |
| Ayrik |
Posted - 27 Mar 2011 : 05:14:09
Dagnirion is the legendary Lord Karsus? Awesome. EoF does indeed look very promising, though I've only skimmed through it. |
| Hoondatha |
Posted - 26 Mar 2011 : 19:37:41
Just be aware that not all of Elves of Faerun is canon. It's really, really good, but in some instances where there wasn't any information, the scribes that worked on EoF made it up. That matters to some, so I just wanted to point it out. |
| Lord Karsus |
Posted - 26 Mar 2011 : 19:10:05
-Tradwitch, for both information about the leShay and tying them to the Forgotten Realms, as well as general Elven history and stuff that I saw in a previously locked thread was being discussed, I'd recommend downloading and reading Elves of Faerūn, which you can get at my DeviantArt page.
http://lord-karsus.deviantart.com/ |
| Fellfire |
Posted - 26 Mar 2011 : 15:42:36
Found it, Scribe Melfius in his thread The Fairy Kitchen and his tale Happiness Comes in Small Packages under his sig. A whimsical read. |
| Hoondatha |
Posted - 26 Mar 2011 : 11:57:28
There's also a (really well-written) faerie dragon in the very first FR novels: the Moonshae trilogy. Not sure if he returns for the sequel trilogy, since it's been a long time since I read that one. And, like many "foolish" creatures, you do not want to be around when the faerie dragon decides to get serious.  |
| Ayrik |
Posted - 26 Mar 2011 : 06:51:44
It's been a long while since I've perused most of my 1E-era Dragons. I, ah, was one of the ignorants who thought were-dragons were indeed a some kind of lycanthrope creature (draconanthrope? hydranthrope? were-zilla?). Too much young influence by Final Fantasy, I suspect.
This of course makes me wonder if any sort of "weredragons" (or "weredragonborn") exist which might be, say, a cross between song dragons and lythari. And would they be fey?
[Edit: Dalor As of 2E, Greyhawk dragons and Steel dragons are very much the same thing, though technically treated as distinct species. Their monster entries describe their similarity and suggest that one is the offshoot of the other; this is easily possible because their total (known) populations are really quite small, somewhere between small clans and extended families.] |
| Dalor Darden |
Posted - 26 Mar 2011 : 06:49:42
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by Arik
Hmmm. They're the same beast, Wooly? I'll look into my Dragons when I get home. I was under the impression that Ed devised them about the same time he wrote Elminster's Daughter.
Were/song dragons were first published in DRAGON #134 -- in a 1e article. They were renamed song dragons in 3e to help clear up the point of confusion that many had regarding the 1e/2e were-dragon. 'Twas thought to be a lycanthrope, when it actually wasn't. They were simply renamed song dragons; both names are used in Faerūn ['were-dragon' not just by the ignorant].
I always thought Greyhawk Dragons were very similar (I think it was Steel Dragons) that I first came across in the Greyhawk Adventures hardback with James Ward on the cover...weren't they later called Steel Dragons? |
| The Sage |
Posted - 26 Mar 2011 : 06:35:07
quote:
Originally posted by Arik
Hmmm. They're the same beast, Wooly? I'll look into my Dragons when I get home. I was under the impression that Ed devised them about the same time he wrote Elminster's Daughter.
Were/song dragons were first published in DRAGON #134 -- in a 1e article. They were renamed song dragons in 3e to help clear up the point of confusion that many had regarding the 1e/2e were-dragon. 'Twas thought to be a lycanthrope, when it actually wasn't. They were simply renamed song dragons; both names are used in Faerūn ['were-dragon' not just by the ignorant]. |
| The Sage |
Posted - 26 Mar 2011 : 06:30:34
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Originally posted by Fellfire
I just found a reference to Mithrendain an Eladrin citadel in the Feywild. I don't have the DDI, so I'm unsure of it's quality.
It's a fairly well-detailed and intriguing locale. I've the article, and though I've yet to make use of it in my games, there is a lot of potential in both the lore and the characters presented. |
| Fellfire |
Posted - 26 Mar 2011 : 06:24:29
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Originally posted by Fellfire
Well, something needs to be done about this. This will not do. One Fey Dragon is not enough. What we need is... a lizard with a ladder. No! Wait. An Unseelie Fairy Dragon breed unto themselves.
This could make for a very malicious, very entertaining foil. Perhaps the only way to banish him/her back to the Feywild is to say its name backwards, or trick it into doing so itself. |
| Fellfire |
Posted - 26 Mar 2011 : 05:46:17
One and the same Good Scribe Arik. We were just talking about them in the Dragon PC scroll and perhaps also in the latest Bard scroll as well. |
| Ayrik |
Posted - 26 Mar 2011 : 05:37:28
Hmmm. They're the same beast, Wooly? I'll look into my Dragons when I get home. I was under the impression that Ed devised them about the same time he wrote Elminster's Daughter. |
| Wooly Rupert |
Posted - 26 Mar 2011 : 05:23:44
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Originally posted by Arik
I understand the song dragon is a newer Greenwood innovation, I only recently heard of it.
Newer? Not quite... They were originally called weredragons, and date back to 1E -- specifically, Dragon 134, June 1988. |
| Dalor Darden |
Posted - 26 Mar 2011 : 05:20:58
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Originally posted by Fellfire
Tinker Belle in a 1e Golarion. Awesome! What a great way to get to know your kids. Wish my dad was as cool as you. ;}
Don't say that around my wife...she might try to adopt you! 
I've decided to place a sign on my front deck: "Edwards Family Orphanage" |
| Fellfire |
Posted - 26 Mar 2011 : 05:09:14
Tinker Belle in a 1e Golarion. Awesome! What a great way to get to know your kids. Wish my dad was as cool as you. ;} |
| Dalor Darden |
Posted - 26 Mar 2011 : 04:56:48
The 2e Complete Book of Humanoids gives the best options for playing Fey that I know of.
My daughter is going to play "Tinker Bell" in an upcoming game in a 1e game...going to steal blatantly from that book! |
| Fellfire |
Posted - 26 Mar 2011 : 04:51:16
Well, something needs to be done about this. This will not do. One Fey Dragon is not enough. What we need is... a lizard with a ladder. No! Wait. An Unseelie Fairy Dragon breed unto themselves. |
| Ayrik |
Posted - 26 Mar 2011 : 04:27:46
It is a shame. I understand the song dragon is a newer Greenwood innovation, I only recently heard of it. But 1E faerie dragons and 2E fairy dragons (same thing, though more than just the name was changed) were once all the rage; the familiar of choice for CG-ish wizards who couldn't get or didn't want a pseudo-dragon, imp, quasit, or other cool pet.
Faerie/Fairy dragon descriptions are decidedly fey creatures, though I know of no hard reference to that effect. |
| Fellfire |
Posted - 26 Mar 2011 : 04:25:32
I can't seem to find it now, but there are a few amusing tales here at the 'Keep by some type of Pixie that works in the kitchens who has a Fairy Dragon companion. A delightful character. Sage? Wooly? What ever happened to that mischievous little imp? |
| Alystra Illianniis |
Posted - 26 Mar 2011 : 04:19:10
You know, it's really a shame there haven't been more fairie dragons in the lore. Aside fro mteh small bits in the MM and Dragon-race books, all we really have is the one fairie dragon from the Year of Rogue Dragons trilogy. |
