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| sleyvas |
Posted - 24 Dec 2010 : 13:39:09
I haven't really gotten into 4th edition, but I'm still interested in the world. I was wondering what happened with some of the 3rd edition stuff after the spellplague. I did buy the FR 4th edition book (was it the player's guide maybe). Anyway, there were some things in it that hinted to stuff I bet they revealed in other products, but I'm not going to spend all that cash buying stuff I won't use. So, I figured I'd just ask.
What happened with Azuth? I know he survived the destruction of dweomerheart when Mystra died. What then?
What happened with Velsharoon? I know he got in a fight with the Simbul (or at least I think that's what I read) and she destroyed him (maybe). What was the reason for the fight (other than he was bad)? What was Velsharoon's goals at the time?
What happened with the 7 sisters? Were they all killed and did they reveal how for each?
I forget, what happened with the God-Kings of Mulhorand? Did Set get lost as a deity?
Is Evermeet still around?
I know Elminster is supposed to be a madman now with no power, but I'm betting he's supposedly faking the madman part??? Have they revealed him to be truly powerless?
Phillip aka Sleyvas |
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| The Sage |
Posted - 31 Dec 2010 : 16:38:56
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
quote:
Originally posted by Rhewtani
So, what's the deal with Alusair? Someone willing to spoil that one?
She basically rode off into the sunset. We didn't get much info on her, other than that...
Not even through the DDI, unfortunately.  |
| The Red Walker |
Posted - 31 Dec 2010 : 16:26:02
quote:
Originally posted by Rhewtani
So, what's the deal with Alusair? Someone willing to spoil that one?
Besides "haunting" the palace in the present realms as a ghost of some type? Not much.  |
| Diffan |
Posted - 31 Dec 2010 : 16:19:34
quote:
Originally posted by Rhewtani
So, what's the deal with Alusair? Someone willing to spoil that one?
This free DDi article should shed some light for you--> Backdrop: Cormyr by Brian James
Though it doesn't go extensively with Alusair, it does give some history for the past century. |
| Wooly Rupert |
Posted - 31 Dec 2010 : 16:15:58
quote:
Originally posted by Rhewtani
So, what's the deal with Alusair? Someone willing to spoil that one?
She basically rode off into the sunset. We didn't get much info on her, other than that... |
| Diffan |
Posted - 31 Dec 2010 : 16:15:27
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Yup, 3.0 removed all the class limits and restrictions of prior editions. Any character could be any class or combination of classes.
This is probably one of the best features of 3e/v3.5 to date IMO and a trait carried further into Pathfinder and 4E. I was never a fan of the restrictions, as they seem to adhere to a more "Tolkien-esque" vision of Fantasy then being a separate entity. To me, it didn't add flavor but forced a fundamental mind-set that a dwarf has to be a fighter or cleric and can never be an arcane caster, or that they despise arcane magics (yet have loads of magiacal equipment).
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
3.x also gave us dragonborn, but those dragonborn were not at all related to 4E's dragonborn. 3.x dragonborn started off as regular people, and only became dragonborn after they'd dedicated themselves to serving Bahamut and undergone a ritual of rebirth. Human/dwarf/elf/whatever went into an egg, a dragonborn came out.
The fact that the 3.x dragonborn and the 4E dragonborn have nothing beyond the racial name and a superficial physical resemblance in common bugs me. I think that reusing the name was a confusing and thus bad idea.
I don't see why someone who's playing a Dragonborn in 4E Realms can't use the above description for their backstory instead of being from Returned Abier. If anything, I believe you can pretty much say your ancestors or parents were Dragon-Kin or maybe once elves who've gone through the Ritual of Rebirth.
The main problem is that other options weren't discussed offically in 4E and thus aren't known by most 4E Realms newcomers. If someone plays a FR Dragonborn, more than likely he'll create a backstory that describes his family or even himself hailing from the Returned countries and not parents derived from the Ritual of Rebirth or possibly Dragon-Kin ancestors. |
| Rhewtani |
Posted - 31 Dec 2010 : 15:21:57
So, what's the deal with Alusair? Someone willing to spoil that one? |
| Wooly Rupert |
Posted - 31 Dec 2010 : 14:43:48
quote:
Originally posted by Arik
Really? 3.0 core? I gotta look that up ... maybe my groggy group subconsciously blocked dwarven mages and only realized the change a full edition later.
Yup, 3.0 removed all the class limits and restrictions of prior editions. Any character could be any class or combination of classes.
3.x also gave us dragonborn, but those dragonborn were not at all related to 4E's dragonborn. 3.x dragonborn started off as regular people, and only became dragonborn after they'd dedicated themselves to serving Bahamut and undergone a ritual of rebirth. Human/dwarf/elf/whatever went into an egg, a dragonborn came out.
The fact that the 3.x dragonborn and the 4E dragonborn have nothing beyond the racial name and a superficial physical resemblance in common bugs me. I think that reusing the name was a confusing and thus bad idea. |
| Ayrik |
Posted - 31 Dec 2010 : 05:06:11
Really? 3.0 core? I gotta look that up ... maybe my groggy group subconsciously blocked dwarven mages and only realized the change a full edition later. |
| Wooly Rupert |
Posted - 31 Dec 2010 : 04:29:08
quote:
Originally posted by Arik
I'd guess that Mystra 3.0's genealogy workload was increased quite a lot when 4E allowed dwarves, halflings, genasi, dragonborn, etc to become magic users. Or is this grand genealogical project more Oghma's and Denier's realm? And would it include priests, psions, and shadowmages?
Actually, it was 3.0 that removed all prior racial restrictions. If you go with the "explanation" we were given, that it had always been like that but no one knew ( ), then you could assume dwarves and such were already on the list. |
| Ayrik |
Posted - 31 Dec 2010 : 00:23:06
I'd guess that Mystra 3.0's genealogy workload was increased quite a lot when 4E allowed dwarves, halflings, genasi, dragonborn, etc to become magic users. Or is this grand genealogical project more Oghma's and Denier's realm? And would it include priests, psions, and shadowmages? |
| The Sage |
Posted - 30 Dec 2010 : 23:56:19
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Originally posted by Arik
wikipedia confirms the FR list of Seven Sisters (and briefly discusses some of their 4E fates).
I think Alvaerele was the "Silent Chosen" and (possibly) a former Magister, though I can't recall where I read about her ... I think she and Khelben did some important ritual or something.
Alvaerele Tasundrym held the position of Magister from 576 DR to 592 DR. She is referred to as "the Silent Chosen." Most do not even know that this particular Magister exists, but her position has become so very important as she acts as a guardian for those things that Mystra I wished to remain unknown [this includes knowledge like where the Srinshee is sleeping, as well as making certain that human, half-elven, and elven family trees are kept recorded and up-to-date]. See Secrets of the Magister.
And here's a little from Ed:-
"May 6, 2005: Hello again, all. Ed replies to Weiser_Cain’s query about the Chosen who “makes sure to keep human, half-elven, and elven family trees up to date so they don’t become lost. . . . Why would they become 'lost' and what does it mean to be lost?”
Hi. Here I simply meant a Magister who tries to record genealogies (not just of armigerous families, whom the Heralds are concerned with, but anyone, of high or low birth or station, who has within their family ranks someone with an aptitude for the Art [ = a wizard or sorcerer], which turns out to be most people). She works and works to record who married who and what offspring they had. This isn’t necessarily knowledge that the individuals she’s recording know, or will learn, and it may never make the slightest difference to their lives - - but it does mean that Mystra’s servants can follow genetic lines, if they want to, of persons with, say, spellfire, or an aptitude for water magic, or particular magic-related prestige classes, and so on.
(Note I said “if they want to;” thus far, few of the Chosen have bothered consulting this ever-accumulating genealogical work, for whatever reasons.)
Lineages become ‘lost’ for all sorts of reasons, of course, including warfare, disease, winterkill, slavery, monster attacks, fires that destroy local temple and family records, illiteracy and bad memory or lack of teaching (older family members to younger kin), and so on. Most ‘common folk’ in the Realms can accurately and fully trace their family tree back three generations at most, and ‘back beyond that’ is little more than a string of colourful tales and claims to be related to this or that king or local hero or villain.
So saith Ed.
Drifting close to real-world reality here, I’d say.
If that isn’t too trite or redundant a construction. Ah, I’m too weary to mind much just now. More Realmslore on the morrow!
love to all,
THO" |
| Ayrik |
Posted - 30 Dec 2010 : 21:49:27
wikipedia confirms the FR list of Seven Sisters (and briefly discusses some of their 4E fates).
I think Alvaerele was the "Silent Chosen" and (possibly) a former Magister, though I can't recall where I read about her ... I think she and Khelben did some important ritual or something. |
| Ashe Ravenheart |
Posted - 30 Dec 2010 : 21:35:31
Alvaerele isn't a sister as far as I've read. Qilué was the "hidden" sister for many of the early years. I've never even heard of that name before...
Edit: Correction, she's a former Magister that became Chosen after she tired of being Magister. |
| Diffan |
Posted - 30 Dec 2010 : 20:55:59
quote:
Originally posted by The Red Walker
Is it just me or isn't that 8 sisters? Where did the 8th come from? I've never heard of one being Alvaerele Taundrym.
I actually looked it up in Wiki-Forgotten Realms and the name Alvaerele Tasundrym's popped in there. I wasn't sure if she was one a sister to the others so I just threw her in. |
| The Red Walker |
Posted - 30 Dec 2010 : 19:17:01
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Originally posted by Diffan
quote:
Originally posted by sleyvas
What happened with the 7 sisters? Were they all killed and did they reveal how for each?
- Alustriel (spelling?) grew old and passed away, leaving her kingdom of Lurar and the city of Silverymoon to her half-elven son (who' now growing old too).
- Dove's where-abouts are unknown, her future is unknown.
- Simbul's fate is mentioned in the Elminster Must Die novel
- Lariel's fate is unknown to me, though I think it's stated in the Blackstaff novel
- Alvaerele Tasundrym's fate is unknown, though she appears in Blackstaff
- Qilue is deceased
- Sylune is deceased
- Storm Silverhand's fate is unknown
Is it just me or isn't that 8 sisters? Where did the 8th come from? I've never heard of one being Alvaerele Taundrym. |
| sleyvas |
Posted - 30 Dec 2010 : 18:51:35
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
I think a lot of the interspecies mating you find unlikely isn't as much a case of an elf saying, "Hmm, I think I'll go breed with a human!" as it is simply two people finding each other attractive and falling into bed without any thought of the consequences -- something that happens readily enough within a race.
Right, just like how there are a large number of Green Alien children out there who have a tendency - to - speak - in - halting - speech, from a certain Captain who apparently was out screwing whatever moved and looked his way in the Trek universe. |
| sleyvas |
Posted - 30 Dec 2010 : 18:15:54
Ah, I haven't kept up with the new books since the spellplague because some of the first ones out were horrid writing to me. I might have to pick up the Elminster must die novel if its from Greenwood. As with most of the realms authors who were originally gamers, his first few works were hard for me to get through, but his later stuff I really liked (not that I didn't like spellfire, because I did).
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Originally posted by Diffan
quote:
Originally posted by sleyvas
What happened with the 7 sisters? Were they all killed and did they reveal how for each?
- Alustriel (spelling?) grew old and passed away, leaving her kingdom of Lurar and the city of Silverymoon to her half-elven son (who' now growing old too).
- Dove's where-abouts are unknown, her future is unknown.
- Simbul's fate is mentioned in the Elminster Must Die novel
- Lariel's fate is unknown to me, though I think it's stated in the Blackstaff novel
- Alvaerele Tasundrym's fate is unknown, though she appears in Blackstaff
- Qilue is deceased
- Sylune is deceased
- Storm Silverhand's fate is unknown
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| Ayrik |
Posted - 30 Dec 2010 : 17:10:18
Without straying the topic into an argument about genetics, I'll point out that mules can be smarter than horses and stronger than donkeys; indeed more mules have these traits than otherwise. But many mules are less intelligent or express different kinds of behaviour and psychology that would be alien to either lineage. Most mules are horribly susceptible to disease and sickness which would not affect either parent, and their average lifespan is consequently significantly shorter.
Mules are far more variable than their parental bloodlines and can inherit all sorts of "better", "worse", or just plainly bizarre and unexpected traits - the hybrid genetics basically means each mule is a completely random roll of the dice instead of a predictable array of traits (best, worst, or diluted) selected from the two parents; we define "normal" mules based on studies of populations, not individuals. A little more info can be found here.
Agreed - D&D is a game about fantasy, not genetics. And it's already been established (in canon) that our rules of science don't quite apply within D&D setttings. Besides, half-elves and half-orcs are kinda cool, having a long tradition that dates back to Tolkien. |
| Diffan |
Posted - 30 Dec 2010 : 13:08:09
I think the oversimplication of genetics is required to keep the game balance of those races in line w/ other "pure" races. Lets face it, who is going to want to play a half-elf that doesnt have the minor benefits of elves? |
| Chosen of Asmodeus |
Posted - 30 Dec 2010 : 12:05:47
quote:
Originally posted by Arik
Back to the D&D genetics thing ...
The oversimplification is a little bit disappointing. Why is there an assumption that every hybrid creature will inherit the best (or at least half of the best) traits from both parents? There is an equal chance that the creature will inherit only the worst traits, or more likely, a middly bunch of unremarkable conflicting traits. With real genetics, a half-elf could express as almost identical to a human or an elf, as could the child of two half-elves (assuming they weren't sterile). Genetics in D&D worlds seems to be more "vibrant" than in ours, a lot of "impossibly unlikely" creatures and races are born and magical "bloodlines" carry very real manifestations.
Still, I'd think some half-elves would be as blind as humans in the dark, or as resistant to charms as any "pure" elf. And many half-elves would be weak or sickly, having all sorts of long-term health effects and organ failures and such stuff, they might have natural lifespans substantially shorter than either parent.
As for why hybrids have the benifits of both races, mostly it has to do with mules. Mules are stronger(proportionatly speaking) than either horses or donkeys. They're also considerably smarter. So the same logic is applied. They just usually leave out the sterility bit.
That being said, they did used to have mongrelmen as the weak, deformed hybrids, didn't they?
Anyway, I'm generally not in favor of applying real world rules regarding genetics to fantasy settings. It overcomplicates the issue, in my opinion. Rule of fun and rule of cool(for the tropers out there) are good enough justifications for me. |
| Diffan |
Posted - 30 Dec 2010 : 04:25:35
I thought Bladewind's additional content was extreamly well done and it's exactly what has happend in my Realms. Thank for the great info!! |
| Bladewind |
Posted - 30 Dec 2010 : 00:42:44
Ah, that's reassuring 
Perhaps the new novels of Cordell will contain some more canon ideas about the situation in Kara-Tur; his Abolithic Sovereinity novels contain Raidon, a Half-Shou halfelf monk hailing from Teflamm. Cordell's the one I suspect to know what's in store for us for things related to the Eastern Lands in the 15th century Realms.
Regarding the canon history of the inner geopolitics and events of Kara-Tur I think a proper novel or DDi article would be needed. I'll try to study some of the older lore to get a better hold in its lore and see if I can come up with some good ideas there.
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| Ashe Ravenheart |
Posted - 29 Dec 2010 : 21:55:07
quote:
Originally posted by Bladewind
Still, I don't think my speculation is that far off and proves to be useful for anyone wanting to flesh out a Oriental campaign in the 15th century Realms. Or do you disagree with parts of it?
No, it's very good!
I just wanted to point it out to scribes that may not have read the 4E FRCG that only the bolded part is canon.
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| Markustay |
Posted - 29 Dec 2010 : 19:51:28
quote:
Originally posted by Ashe Ravenheart
Not to nit-pick, but only the bolded section is what is mentioned in the FRCG. All else is your own speculation. (I'm pointing it out because the " you used get kinda lost in the post.)
Bladewind has apparently been taking lessons from me.
I use canon a lot to back-up a lot of my conjecture, but sometimes when I say "that part's canon", its not so obvious what I mean (although I myself know precisely what I meant). An entire post, after such a canonical quote though, is a bit extreme (even by my standards). I was also like "I don't remember all of that...".
Because I DID read that part, and had myself extrapolated on quite a it of it. When trying to create a Kara-Tur Netbook (way back when the FR portion of the WotC site was still active), I had decided to do what the GHotR did, and have the final chapter be a 'what has past in the last hundred years' thing, so that it would be useable by folks playing in any era. In fact, strangely enough, that one of the few parts I actually completed.
When I posted some of it on the WotC site, it was met with 'mixed reviews', not because it was bad, but because it pertained to the Spellplague and the post-4e world. That may have been partly responsible for my desertion of that project - everyone had their own ideas about what should be included.
Too bad, to... I had something pretty cool planned to replace the Dragonwall. That part was going to go in a CKC article, but now that look as defunct as the K-T Netbook.
I also had the whole thing updated from the toT - there was a massive cave-in of the lands between Shou and T'u Lung, on the Malatra border (at least five different nations border that particular area). Apparently Ibrandul maintained a large realm here, which collapsed after his death. None of which is canon, but it gave me a chance to add-in a massive 'lake district' to an otherwise pretty boring area.
There were also two Thayan enclaves as well, as a result of the Tuigan war.
Maybe I'll still use all of that somewhere - the 'final decade' (post-ToT, pre-plague) stuff I had shouldn't offend anyone.
As for what Bladewind has, thats all good, but I would have concentrated more on what befell the physical (material) world. What happens in the cosmos is interesting, but rarely affects anything in our games (no matter how cataclysmic the changes). |
| Bladewind |
Posted - 29 Dec 2010 : 18:23:56
Still, I don't think my speculation is that far off and proves to be useful for anyone wanting to flesh out a Oriental campaign in the 15th century Realms. Or do you disagree with parts of it? |
| Ashe Ravenheart |
Posted - 29 Dec 2010 : 15:05:38
quote:
Originally posted by Bladewind
I believe I saw someone quote from the 4e FR tome that the Spellplague hid the eastern lands very hard.
Ah I found it:
"EASTERN LANDS
The Endless Wastes give way to the young Tuigan kingdom of Yaïmunnahar and the continent of Kara-Tur, neither of which are shown on most Faerûnian maps. Kozakura and Shou Lung are great nations within Kara-Tur, and the Spellplague was at least as destructive there as it was in Faerûn. In the last hundred years more immigrants from Kara-Tur have begun to settle in Yaïmunnahar and Faerûn, bringing their cultures and unorthodox fighting styles with them."
This resulted in an increased influx of Kara-Turan refugees, and the establishment of many eastern-styled districts in the larger towns in Faerun (think lampoon-lighted, smoke-scented china-towns in port-cities like Westgate, Vaelen and Ordulin). Its now more common to spot Dragon Samurai, Shou Disciple and Kensai bodyguards at the doorsteps of merchant houses. Similarly Wu-Jen, Shugenja and Eastern Psion have more established presence in the 15th century power-political play of the casting classes in Faerun.
The nation established by the Kahan dynasty, Yaïmunnahar, probably flourished after the influx of new Shou-Lung, Wa and Kozakuran blood. This new nation is now not only renowned for its horse raiders, but has established a strong presence in the naval power struggles around the Sea of the Fallen Stars and beyond.
The cosmological repercussions for the Celestial Bureaucracy are more difficult to extrapolate. My guess is that the single domain of the Celestial Emperor stood firm, but its edges were severely battered by the magical storms that raged through the Astral Sea upon Mystra's demise. The immortal Nine Travelers and the Mad Monkey surely survived this, but some of the millions of spirit denizens of the heavenly realms surely have suffered, displaced or perished.
I surmise that after these turbulent times the Celestial Emperor ordered the location of his astral domain to be replaced into a location that could oversee the re-energized Feywild and the dark Shadowfell proper. This means he had to broker with Ao for a new bureaucracy and new decrees that adapted to the changes in Torils cosmology. For his migration plans, he send emmisaries and scouts into the Feywild. Hengeyokai, Spirit-folk, Rice-spirits and other lesser Immortals were used for this task. For the recollection of souls he'd had to search for them in the newly risen Shadowfell. I think the Spirit-Warriors, Sages, Ladies of Compassion, Moon Women, Jade Ladies and Lords of Karma eventually established a new bureaucracy for the Celestial Emperor within the Shadowfell.
Perhaps some Oni or Kami were able to establish their own little domains from the unstable fragments of the Celestial Heavens, and these orbit like dark moons around the main domain of the Celestial Bureaucracy. These dark moons are habited by unfortunate tempted souls of the dead, and have been corrupted or altered by their new oni or kami masters as they see fit. At certain astronomically determined times in Kara-Tur, the domain moons are able to overlap Selune, causing strange phenomena to occur on the natural world. Some Oni lords like sending certain eternal champions on twisted perversion of quests to gain some sort of power over the people in Kara-Tur.
Not to nit-pick, but only the bolded section is what is mentioned in the FRCG. All else is your own speculation. (I'm pointing it out because the " you used get kinda lost in the post.) |
| Bladewind |
Posted - 29 Dec 2010 : 14:22:36
I believe I saw someone quote from the 4e FR tome that the Spellplague hid the eastern lands very hard.
Ah I found it:
"EASTERN LANDS
The Endless Wastes give way to the young Tuigan kingdom of Yaïmunnahar and the continent of Kara-Tur, neither of which are shown on most Faerûnian maps. Kozakura and Shou Lung are great nations within Kara-Tur, and the Spellplague was at least as destructive there as it was in Faerûn. In the last hundred years more immigrants from Kara-Tur have begun to settle in Yaïmunnahar and Faerûn, bringing their cultures and unorthodox fighting styles with them."
This resulted in an increased influx of Kara-Turan refugees, and the establishment of many eastern-styled districts in the larger towns in Faerun (think lampoon-lighted, smoke-scented china-towns in port-cities like Westgate, Vaelen and Ordulin). Its now more common to spot Dragon Samurai, Shou Disciple and Kensai bodyguards at the doorsteps of merchant houses. Similarly Wu-Jen, Shugenja and Eastern Psion have more established presence in the 15th century power-political play of the casting classes in Faerun.
The nation established by the Kahan dynasty, Yaïmunnahar, probably flourished after the influx of new Shou-Lung, Wa and Kozakuran blood. This new nation is now not only renowned for its horse raiders, but has established a strong presence in the naval power struggles around the Sea of the Fallen Stars and beyond.
The cosmological repercussions for the Celestial Bureaucracy are more difficult to extrapolate. My guess is that the single domain of the Celestial Emperor stood firm, but its edges were severely battered by the magical storms that raged through the Astral Sea upon Mystra's demise. The immortal Nine Travelers and the Mad Monkey surely survived this, but some of the millions of spirit denizens of the heavenly realms surely have suffered, displaced or perished.
I surmise that after these turbulent times the Celestial Emperor ordered the location of his astral domain to be replaced into a location that could oversee the re-energized Feywild and the dark Shadowfell proper. This means he had to broker with Ao for a new bureaucracy and new decrees that adapted to the changes in Torils cosmology. For his migration plans, he send emmisaries and scouts into the Feywild. Hengeyokai, Spirit-folk, Rice-spirits and other lesser Immortals were used for this task. For the recollection of souls he'd had to search for them in the newly risen Shadowfell. I think the Spirit-Warriors, Sages, Ladies of Compassion, Moon Women, Jade Ladies and Lords of Karma eventually established a new bureaucracy for the Celestial Emperor within the Shadowfell.
Perhaps some Oni or Kami were able to establish their own little domains from the unstable fragments of the Celestial Heavens, and these orbit like dark moons around the main domain of the Celestial Bureaucracy. These dark moons are habited by unfortunate tempted souls of the dead, and have been corrupted or altered by their new oni or kami masters as they see fit. At certain astronomically determined times in Kara-Tur, the domain moons are able to overlap Selune, causing strange phenomena to occur on the natural world. Some Oni lords like sending certain eternal champions on twisted perversion of quests to gain some sort of power over the people in Kara-Tur. |
| Marc |
Posted - 29 Dec 2010 : 13:57:01
quote:
Originally posted by Markustay
A person who posted on the WotC site - right after the 'Rich Baker must be stopped' crap started-up over there - that HE should be blamed for everything. So I am doing precisely what the guy asked us to do - blame HIM for everything, and I am in the wrong for that?
Yes, I posted in that thread, later the guy who's taboo to be named apparently, appeared and said it was his decision, not Rich's. And again said that in an interview. |
| Diffan |
Posted - 28 Dec 2010 : 23:21:57
quote:
Originally posted by Arik
Though I haven't seen any detailed maps of post-plague Kara-Tur and Zakhara, the big map doesn't appear to have substantially changed (ie: those differences that are immediately visible to me could just be artifacts of different cartography styles).
It's pretty much a general rule-of-thumb that if something isn't specifically mentioned in the FRCG/FRPG then little has changed in any significant way. Sure, a century is going to have some changes such as leaders of countries, possible border skirmishes and even bigger battles but on a whole, it's much as it was a century before.
This is where the style of the 4E Realms really pays off IMO, as any individual DM can claim whatever he/she feels the need for without worrying about contradicting Canon. Maybe in "your Realms" Kara-Tur turned more enlightened, produced firearms, and jumped ahead of the curve technology wise where as the Western part fell into Chaos due to the destruction of the Weave (sure, Kara-Tur would have had the same problems) but maybe one of their Gods interfered or shielded them somehow?
Because of the "sandbox" approach, it's very easy to incorporate whatever you wish in a less detailed area given the little content thats been offically published.
In my Realms game for example, most of the population on Faerun believe Lantan fell under the rising tide the Sea of Swords due to the Spellplague and was wiped out. On the contrary, those people had a little bit of fore-warning and was able to save 3/4 of the Island and now resides completly under water in a "Atlantian meets Bio-Shock" way. |
| Ashe Ravenheart |
Posted - 28 Dec 2010 : 13:49:03
No matter the details, GHotR is still the #1 reference product I use when developing any story ideas in the Realms (FRCS 3E is #2). |
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