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| Victor_ograygor |
Posted - 14 Mar 2010 : 07:57:44
Just wondering (races and papers )
Are all races alowd in (forexampel) Waterdeep, and what happens when a golaith ore orck (ore half orck) wants to settle down in waterdeep whitout papers?
Smal villages and other small towns (with walls and without) do they alow strange races to visite there towns ore do they just alow them to travel throug.
In may champaing small towns with lees military force ask adventures and strange races to just travel throug in fear of the unknown and so they could avoide trubel with adventures.
What about races like - half drow - half orck - Goliaths do towns have restrictions fore special races? |
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| Victor_ograygor |
Posted - 16 Mar 2010 : 19:24:03
Its quite interesting this issue since I haven't given this a lot of thought. But since some of my players have chosen to make
a half-drow, half orck and Golait I would have to think how a small villages would react when they see them - And what villages and small towns who would accept them.
after reading in some books I could see that towns like Waterdeep had half orcks and half Drows and Zhentill keep Mulmaster had orcks in there army and strange races wasn't so strange again.
Much to think about.... but yes this will surly bring the middle ages into forgotten realms :O)
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| Faraer |
Posted - 16 Mar 2010 : 15:37:09
I should also say that of course there's a range of ways to play drow. But even if you give them as much nuance and individuality as Ed's Niflghar, it's still crazy to let them walk around potentially gathering intelligence on your city, given that murder and kidnapping is what almost all human and demihuman interaction with drow consists of. I highly recommend the essay at the end of Dark Warrior Rising, as well as the novels, for those interested in this.
'Dark Mirror' is a what-if story, an exercise in topos shift: What if the Realms was psychological realism instead of heroic fantasy? What if monsters were just misunderstood? A world that worked that way would be very unlike the Realms or D&D. |
| The Sage |
Posted - 16 Mar 2010 : 00:16:43
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Matthus
I assume that the tolerance with different people or different customs would grow with the size of the place.
You may compare this with our present. Where nobody would even raise an eyebrow in Berlin seeing some “freak” there may me an agitated call for the police in some villages in the north or south of Germany. There is even an example in the lore for the intolerance in rural areas.
I remember a short story where a goblin was hanged in a small village. I think it was a “Drizzt” story. The creature was abused and Drizzt helped him. Because the dark elf had to journey on the gobo was killed.
So if any exotic creature would like to intermingle with the local folk, it should do it in a metropolis.
I don't recall the name of that particular tale, but it was indeed a Drizzt story. It was in one of the earliest Realms of anthologies, maybe even the first one.
It was Realms of Valor -- and the story was titled "Dark Mirror." |
| Wooly Rupert |
Posted - 16 Mar 2010 : 00:08:18
quote:
Originally posted by Matthus
I assume that the tolerance with different people or different customs would grow with the size of the place.
You may compare this with our present. Where nobody would even raise an eyebrow in Berlin seeing some “freak” there may me an agitated call for the police in some villages in the north or south of Germany. There is even an example in the lore for the intolerance in rural areas.
I remember a short story where a goblin was hanged in a small village. I think it was a “Drizzt” story. The creature was abused and Drizzt helped him. Because the dark elf had to journey on the gobo was killed.
So if any exotic creature would like to intermingle with the local folk, it should do it in a metropolis.
I don't recall the name of that particular tale, but it was indeed a Drizzt story. It was in one of the earliest Realms of anthologies, maybe even the first one. |
| Faraer |
Posted - 15 Mar 2010 : 13:47:17
FR1 Waterdeep and the North:quote:
Beings of almost all races may be seen in the City, too. A typical Waterdhavian would react with hostility and fear only to a drow, an illithid, an obviously unhuman native of the Lower Planes, and an armed orc (as well, of course, as “monsters” such as beholders and dragons); with all others, it’s generally “business as usual.”
'Drow' is a whispered name of terror in the surface lands of Faerűn. Honest folk are right to fear them; they aren't strange-looking people with different customs, they're fell monsters who murder men, women, and children or take them down under the earth, never to return. |
| Matthus |
Posted - 15 Mar 2010 : 13:10:18
I assume that the tolerance with different people or different customs would grow with the size of the place.
You may compare this with our present. Where nobody would even raise an eyebrow in Berlin seeing some “freak” there may me an agitated call for the police in some villages in the north or south of Germany. There is even an example in the lore for the intolerance in rural areas.
I remember a short story where a goblin was hanged in a small village. I think it was a “Drizzt” story. The creature was abused and Drizzt helped him. Because the dark elf had to journey on the gobo was killed.
So if any exotic creature would like to intermingle with the local folk, it should do it in a metropolis.
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| Alystra Illianniis |
Posted - 14 Mar 2010 : 21:35:24
With Waterdeep's proximity to Skullport, wouldn't drow be more common- and better tolerated? I can certainly understand the reticence of allowing illithids, however. |
| Jorkens |
Posted - 14 Mar 2010 : 12:08:22
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Originally posted by Victor_ograygor
Just wondering (races and papers )
Are all races alowd in (forexampel) Waterdeep, and what happens when a golaith ore orck (ore half orck) wants to settle down in waterdeep whitout papers?
Smal villages and other small towns (with walls and without) do they alow strange races to visite there towns ore do they just alow them to travel throug.
In may champaing small towns with lees military force ask adventures and strange races to just travel throug in fear of the unknown and so they could avoide trubel with adventures.
What about races like - half drow - half orck - Goliaths do towns have restrictions fore special races?
In Waterdeep at least almost all races are accepted, except for a few of the more extreme like the drow and ilithid. Giants, orcs and their like are watched, but tolerated.
I would say that any race seen as trouble locally would be banned (and in some cases killed on sight). In smaller communities one would not be given the benefit of the doubt. A Sembian farmer would be as sceptical to an Aaracokra or Deep gnome as to a Flind. |
