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| Drummer Boy |
Posted - 07 Oct 2002 : 04:09:06
How do you pronounce Bhaal? I've always thought it was pronounced "ball," but I am pretty sure I was wrong, and I can't think of any other way to pronounce it. |
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| GungHo |
Posted - 04 Nov 2013 : 19:35:48
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Originally posted by The Masked Mage
I thought Baal was one of the fallen from grace gods - a demon or something... can't seem to find anything online explaining that belief except they used the name for Diablo as well.
There are a few sources.
Baal was the Semetic title for the lord/master. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baal Which branches in to Baal the sky god, Ba'al of Tyre, Baal of Peor, Beelzebub, Ba'al of Stargate, etc.
At the end of the day, they had a lot of Baals. |
| The Masked Mage |
Posted - 17 Oct 2013 : 22:47:49
I thought Baal was one of the fallen from grace gods - a demon or something... can't seem to find anything online explaining that belief except they used the name for Diablo as well. |
| Markustay |
Posted - 12 Oct 2013 : 14:19:13
Thats why I theorized that Bhaal was the son of Baal... who started-out as a fertility god, and then went bad.
Out-of-game, we know from historic records that that is just another case of one group of people 'demonizing' another group's gods, but we can use that.
Child or no, Bhaal may have simply had Baal as a patron (perhaps unknowingly - he may have had a grudge against one of the 'Seven Lost Gods'). |
| Drustan Dwnhaedan |
Posted - 12 Oct 2013 : 06:59:05
That's what I thought as well. Although I must admit, the two don't seem to have all that much in common; Bhaal being a god of murder, whereas Baal was a fertility god. (I think. It's been a while since I read anything about him, so I'm probably mistaken.) |
| The Masked Mage |
Posted - 12 Oct 2013 : 06:52:40
I always assumed that Bhaal was based on Baal from real world ancient religions. |
| Bhaal |
Posted - 04 Oct 2013 : 19:07:43
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Originally posted by TBeholder
You're joking, and now and then people use the names without looking up... 
Moloch had a pretty sweet deal going if you ask me.
And I set up all my children for murder. Took a while, but worked for me! Sometimes you have to break a few eggs to make a nice tasty omelette. 
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| TBeholder |
Posted - 04 Oct 2013 : 07:50:12
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
quote:
Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie
Bhaal in my Realms campaign is played by Christian Bale, and everything he says is in capital letters: "I AM THE NIGHT," or "SWEAR TO ME!" or "I'M THE GODS-DAMNED BHAAL-MAN!"
Would that make him Christian Bhaal, then? 
You're joking, and now and then people use the names without looking up... |
| Wooly Rupert |
Posted - 04 Oct 2013 : 04:21:12
quote:
Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie
Bhaal in my Realms campaign is played by Christian Bale, and everything he says is in capital letters: "I AM THE NIGHT," or "SWEAR TO ME!" or "I'M THE GODS-DAMNED BHAAL-MAN!"
CHeers
Would that make him Christian Bhaal, then? |
| Quale |
Posted - 03 Oct 2013 : 18:42:09
I pronounce it like the Phoenician god, B'l |
| The Sage |
Posted - 03 Oct 2013 : 16:07:59
quote:
Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie
Bhaal in my Realms campaign is played by Christian Bale, and everything he says is in capital letters: "I AM THE NIGHT," or "SWEAR TO ME!" or "I'M THE GODS-DAMNED BHAAL-MAN!"
CHeers
"When Waterdeep is ashes... you have my permission to die."
*Snippet of discussion heard between the Tyrant Lord, Bane, and Bhaal-Man.*
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| Erik Scott de Bie |
Posted - 03 Oct 2013 : 15:25:32
Bhaal in my Realms campaign is played by Christian Bale, and everything he says is in capital letters: "I AM THE NIGHT," or "SWEAR TO ME!" or "I'M THE GODS-DAMNED BHAAL-MAN!"
CHeers |
| Neo2151 |
Posted - 03 Oct 2013 : 15:06:40
Am I the only one who's been pronouncing it, "bayl" then?  |
| Thauranil |
Posted - 03 Oct 2013 : 14:29:48
I have always pronounced it " Bahll". |
| KacyCrawford |
Posted - 03 Oct 2013 : 11:48:53
I'd go with Neo2151,"Beh-HAHL." |
| Bhaal |
Posted - 02 Oct 2013 : 18:42:50
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Originally posted by Eilserus
Didn't Balder's Gate 2, Shadows of Amn have it pronounced as "ball"?
Indeed, you are correct. Truthfully, whether people call me "beh-hall", "ball" or "ba-ahl" is less important than the fact that I'M BACK BABY!
The original is "beh-hall" of course, but northerners tend to twist pronunciations. Barbarians call Tempus "temp-os" and as you noted "Lloth" transformed over time to "Lolth".
It's all good as long as we're worshiped and feared.
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| Eilserus |
Posted - 02 Oct 2013 : 18:18:31
Didn't Balder's Gate 2, Shadows of Amn have it pronounced as "ball"? I think that's where I learned to pronounce it from myself.
This is a somewhat interesting conversation, because I bet, depending on locations and dialects, the pronunciation of the gods may sound different from region to region.
For instance, when I briefly lived in Phoenix, AZ, I was told I had an accent. I found that really strange, but I am from North Dakota. So maybe the gods or some of them have several different ways to pronounce their games.
Another example would be the old Lloth, Lolth spelling we used to see in the old days. Lloth was the "Northern" dialect version. Little bit different example, but along the same lines in a way. |
| Bhaal |
Posted - 02 Oct 2013 : 15:23:09
This reminds me of that time I mispronounced "Bocce." Super embarrassing.
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| Therise |
Posted - 02 Oct 2013 : 15:19:34
Yep, original gray box for the Realms has it as "Beh-HAHL". |
| Thieran |
Posted - 02 Oct 2013 : 14:45:56
quote:
Originally posted by Neo2151
Apparently, according to the Forgotten Realms Campaign Set (Cyclopedia of the Realms), p. 10 (according to http://forgottenrealms.wikia.com/wiki/Bhaal )
it is pronounced "Beh-HAHL."
[...]
I checked the reference, and it is actually correct. Since Faiths & Avatars, published much later, contradicts it, I go with the latter, though. |
| Markustay |
Posted - 02 Oct 2013 : 13:01:40
^ Same for me. ^
I've always said it 'Bahl'. |
| Lord Bane |
Posted - 02 Oct 2013 : 10:00:27
I go with Thieran, "Bahl" pronounciation for me. |
| Wooly Rupert |
Posted - 02 Oct 2013 : 04:16:22
quote:
Originally posted by Entreri3478
Any pronunciation other than "ball" sounds absolutely horrid to me, but each realms reader can pronounce it anyway they choose.
That's pretty much how I say it. |
| Artemas Entreri |
Posted - 02 Oct 2013 : 03:30:46
Any pronunciation other than "ball" sounds absolutely horrid to me, but each realms reader can pronounce it anyway they choose. |
| TBeholder |
Posted - 02 Oct 2013 : 03:17:36
Take "Bwahaa-ha" as spelled out "evil laughter", remove even vowels, cap with "l"? |
| BlackAce |
Posted - 01 Oct 2013 : 20:26:31
To me it's always rhymed with Roald Dahl's surname. |
| Thieran |
Posted - 01 Oct 2013 : 18:31:30
Strange: according to Faiths & Avatars p. 45, Bhaal's name is pronounced "Bahl". |
| Neo2151 |
Posted - 01 Oct 2013 : 14:07:10
Apparently, according to the Forgotten Realms Campaign Set (Cyclopedia of the Realms), p. 10 (according to http://forgottenrealms.wikia.com/wiki/Bhaal )
it is pronounced "Beh-HAHL."
Sorry for the thread necro, but I've never heard it pronounced this way until I watched the DDN PAX Prime 2013 live game, and Chris Perkins pronounced it. Kinda blew my mind.  |
| eilinel |
Posted - 12 Oct 2002 : 23:57:58
it's good to clarify a little bit the pronounciation. I remenber the last time i played with some americans, we were talking about some gods but my pronouciation was so sticking out beyond his that we believe that we were talking about different gods...
misunderstanding...
3 dead in the end, just because of that.
We replayed the scene but it's not the same thing
Shortly, good pronouciation can save your character's life and the party! |
| Ditalidas |
Posted - 11 Oct 2002 : 14:36:17
Very well said Arion.
I never really thought about it. Though I did notice that some pronounce names of deities different than I do. But I won't ever make an issue out of it again 
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| Drummer Boy |
Posted - 10 Oct 2002 : 23:50:22
Alright, thanks for clarifying that for me. |
