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| The Sage |
Posted - 13 Jul 2003 : 07:42:16
Keeping in line with Mournblade's Forgotten Realms Movie scroll (and since I didn't want to post an alternate question in that scroll), I think that it would be interesting and fun to discuss what themes, and plot/storylines we would all like this hypothetical FR movie to be set around.
You can suggest a storyline from any edition whether it be from the Ol'grey box, to current stories. If you so wish, minor events that have been detailed in sourcebooks or novels can also be considered here. In fact, any event at any time in Realms history can be posted here for consideration.
Let's hear what you think.
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| The Sage |
Posted - 26 Jul 2003 : 04:36:17
Since there has been a rapid proliferation of late in FR Drow novel material, I was wondering about themes for a specific Drow themed film. Obviously a lot of scribes here would select a number of Drizzt stories, but what about some of the more recent Drizzt material, like Thousand Orcs. Or even specific books from such series as WotSQ or Starlight and Shadows
Thoughts?.
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| Bookwyrm |
Posted - 17 Jul 2003 : 22:16:06
Well, too bad I didn't see your post right there until now. I was just out at two malls, and I could easily have stopped in.
However, I think I could have it in me to go out again and try it.  |
| The Sage |
Posted - 17 Jul 2003 : 07:32:45
The reason may explanation was so thorough was because I remember reading the novel when I was in school several years ago. It was part of an assessment for my English Literature class. After I had read the book and completed the assessment, I went out to the store to purchase my own copy, because I had enjoyed it that much. In fact it actually convinced me to read most of Wilde's other works, which was a little strange for me since I am at heart a Keats devotee.
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| Mournblade |
Posted - 17 Jul 2003 : 06:10:14
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Originally posted by Sage of Perth
Mournblade, what do you mean by 'HAH.... Sage ?'.
I liked your explanation sage that is all...
it was extremely thourough. I just felt a summary was in order to explain the story. DOn't worry sage, I was not poking fun
I'll be more careful after my Star Trek criticism I promise.
Bookwyrm I read the reviews of the LEAGUE. I went into the movie thinking it would be horrible. NO WAY. It was GREAT! I was very pleasantly surprised, and most reviewers did not have the proper frame of reference to criticise the movie. As usually happens when they review FANTASY/SCIFI. THe movie did not at any time cross a border to the United States. It shows again that particular reviewer was not playing close attention, so I would say his review is faulty.
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| The Sage |
Posted - 17 Jul 2003 : 01:47:55
I would appreciate hearing your thoughts on the movie when you eventually see it Bookwyrm.
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| Bookwyrm |
Posted - 16 Jul 2003 : 18:08:22
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Originally posted by Mournblade
Bookwyrm League of Extraordinary Gentlemen didn't take place in New YOrk. Seriously, it didn't. It was London, Venice, and Paris. Dorian Grey was not added for Americans. Most Americans have no Idea about the Portrait of Dorian Grey. I actually liked that addition. I did not mind Tom Sawyer either really, they made him work. Overall I thought the League was one of the best movies of the summer.
Hmm. Maybe I'll take a look at it then. Maybe. Is it really worth USD 5.50?
And I thought that it did take place in New York. It's what a (very negative) review said . . . . |
| The Sage |
Posted - 16 Jul 2003 : 09:19:16
Mournblade, what do you mean by 'HAH.... Sage?'.
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| Mournblade |
Posted - 16 Jul 2003 : 09:12:21
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Originally posted by Sage of Perth
The Portrait of Dorian Gray (or Picture in some cases) is a tale by poet and writer Oscar Wilde. To put it succinctly this tale illustrates a world in which integration is completely impossible and also where all the directions of one's life lead inevitably to self-destruction.
It is both a beautiful and deadly story.
HAH .... Sage
Too put it SIMPLY, the Portrait of Dorian Grey was about a man who was immortal due to a portrait he had done of himself. Dorian could perform evil deeds in life, and he would show no scars of evil for they would only appear on the painting of him. Also age does not affect Dorian, it all just appears on the painting. However he can never look at the painting. I forget how the book ends...
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| The Sage |
Posted - 16 Jul 2003 : 08:47:16
The Portrait of Dorian Gray (or Picture in some cases) is a tale by poet and writer Oscar Wilde. To put it succinctly this tale illustrates a world in which integration is completely impossible and also where all the directions of one's life lead inevitably to self-destruction.
It is both a beautiful and deadly story.
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| Malanthius |
Posted - 16 Jul 2003 : 08:25:32
Okay, My interest is piqued, what was "The Portrait of Dorien Grey" about anyway?
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| The Sage |
Posted - 16 Jul 2003 : 08:03:19
You may be right. It is due out here end-of-July to early-August so...
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| zemd |
Posted - 16 Jul 2003 : 07:55:54
Alright so we'll have in France in 3 month or maybe more. For example i watched American Party when i was in San Francisco last August. And it has just been released in cinemas this last Wednesday  |
| The Sage |
Posted - 16 Jul 2003 : 07:44:32
It is a fantasy/steampunk/adventure movie due out in cinemas here soon, but already playing in some North Hemisphere countries.
From the general reviews it is suposed to be quite a tale. But I never listen to reviews instead relying on my own determination after viewing the movie to make a specific judgement on a particular film.
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| zemd |
Posted - 16 Jul 2003 : 07:38:27
quote:
Originally posted by Sage of Perth
League of Extraordinary Gentlemen
What's that? |
| The Sage |
Posted - 16 Jul 2003 : 07:03:57
It seems a shame now that League of Extraordinary Gentlemen doesn't open for release here in Australia for another few weeks.
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| Mournblade |
Posted - 16 Jul 2003 : 06:20:19
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Originally posted by Bookwyrm
And don't forget, Mournblade, that it also has Dorian Grey (though admittedly fewer people know about that character) and takes place in New York City. (Which a suprising amount of people think is the capitol of the United States. A professor of mine from South America was surprised to find otherwise. "I'll be working in Washington, DC? What's that?")
And Cormyr . . . hmm, hmm . . . . Yes, I think that would work. Dragons, beasts, and blood, swords and sorcery, mayhem and magic. All the stuff the average American likes. Especially the blood and swords, and together if possible. Repeatedly.
(Behold -- the Roman Circus is not obselete! It's just been replaced . . . .  )
. . . And, fortunately, it also has enough plot to interest those of us with a more intellectual bent (say, with an Int score higher than a troll's?).
Bookwyrm League of Extraordinary Gentlemen didn't take place in New YOrk. Seriously, it didn't. It was London, Venice, and Paris. Dorian Grey was not added for Americans. Most Americans have no Idea about the Portrait of Dorian Grey. I actually liked that addition. I did not mind Tom Sawyer either really, they made him work. Overall I thought the League was one of the best movies of the summer.
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| The Sage |
Posted - 16 Jul 2003 : 02:07:37
I know that for myself a good novel or film has to subscribe more to a solid story, a healthly plot, and also provide a great deal of intellectual stimulation than to the average slash-and-gore (repeatedly as you say) technqiues employed to provide entertainment that is far too prevailant in today's film-novel cultures.
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| The Sage |
Posted - 16 Jul 2003 : 02:06:01
I am glad you added that last part Bookwyrm. The first part of your post really didn't make much distinction between the average movie fan and those of us who enjoy reading and watching fantasy for the intellectual stimulation that it provides.
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| Bookwyrm |
Posted - 16 Jul 2003 : 00:20:06
And don't forget, Mournblade, that it also has Dorian Grey (though admittedly fewer people know about that character) and takes place in New York City. (Which a suprising amount of people think is the capitol of the United States. A professor of mine from South America was surprised to find otherwise. "I'll be working in Washington, DC? What's that?")
And Cormyr . . . hmm, hmm . . . . Yes, I think that would work. Dragons, beasts, and blood, swords and sorcery, mayhem and magic. All the stuff the average American likes. Especially the blood and swords, and together if possible. Repeatedly.
(Behold -- the Roman Circus is not obselete! It's just been replaced . . . . )
. . . And, fortunately, it also has enough plot to interest those of us with a more intellectual bent (say, with an Int score higher than a troll's?). |
| Mournblade |
Posted - 15 Jul 2003 : 23:13:48
I think with the American public's feelings on what a fantasy movie should be (since lets face it, all movies get corrupted by making it more agreeable to the American Groundlings that understand very little. Don't beleive me? MAD MAX was redubbed in AMERICAN english... Oh and LEAGUE OF EXTRAORDINARY GENTLEMEN had an EXTRA character- Tom Sawyer) I think Cormyr would be IDeal. Maybe the Cormyr trilogy would work well. After all you could get Sean Connery, Drew Barrymore, Good military conflict, and a general feeling of middleages which groundlings might be able to put into their narrow schema.
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| warduke |
Posted - 15 Jul 2003 : 22:42:32
I'll have to think awhile about an original topic for a FR film. For now however my vote would be for the Ice Wind Dale trilogy. If I remember correctly these were all #1 best sellers, so I think there would be enough of an audience that would spread the word that dispite its similarity to LOTR's it is a unique tale in itself. |
| The Sage |
Posted - 15 Jul 2003 : 17:22:23
Okay, well let's hear about some new story theme ideas for this movie then.
Anybody have any suggestions to begin with ?.
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| Mythander |
Posted - 15 Jul 2003 : 15:35:59
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Originally posted by zemd
I think it would better if they'd do and compltely new story. Just like in BG series. But i'd like it to be canon info.
I think the script would be written by Greenwood, Salvatore, Cunninghan or an other famous writer of the Realms.
Even if i'd like a new story, it would be better to keep some references to the novels. For example someone in a tavern that tells rumors about Dark Elf in the North that lives with humans and dwarves (i bet you don't know who i'm refering to! )
As much as I would like to see one of the before mentioned Tomes brought to life. I have to agree with you. For a first look into the realms it would be best if the story was written with a first impression in mind. |
| zemd |
Posted - 15 Jul 2003 : 14:53:31
I think it would better if they'd do and compltely new story. Just like in BG series. But i'd like it to be canon info.
I think the script would be written by Greenwood, Salvatore, Cunninghan or an other famous writer of the Realms.
Even if i'd like a new story, it would be better to keep some references to the novels. For example someone in a tavern that tells rumors about Dark Elf in the North that lives with humans and dwarves (i bet you don't know who i'm refering to! ) |
| The Sage |
Posted - 15 Jul 2003 : 13:34:58
Sorry about the mistake with Evermeet Bookwyrm. I really haven't been spending much time here each visit to accurately read all the new posts.
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| The Sage |
Posted - 15 Jul 2003 : 13:33:50
That's a good point about Streams of Silver and The Hobbit. The general themes are practically identical. Perhaps this would be one of those cases where directors and producers add their own ideas and elements to the story in order to make it more different. Certainly there were aspects of the 'LotR' films that Peter Jackson changed that deviates from Tolkien's original masterpiece.
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| Bookwyrm |
Posted - 15 Jul 2003 : 11:40:00
Oh, and if you did The Halfling's Gem, you'd have to do the first two books first. And that would be a problem. The Crystal Shard would be easy, but to the general public, how would you be able to explain Streams of Silver as anything other than a rehash of The Hobbit? Certainly there's more to it than that, but you have to realize that's how it's going to look. |
| Bookwyrm |
Posted - 15 Jul 2003 : 11:27:35
I wasn't really suggesting Evermeet for the first movie. Just one of them. |
| The Sage |
Posted - 15 Jul 2003 : 06:05:38
I do have another thought about a possible introduction storyline...the Netheril Trilogy. It could form the basis to eventually move into the Return of the Archwizards story.
Plus it details the early human periods of the Realms.
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| The Sage |
Posted - 15 Jul 2003 : 06:04:02
The Halfling's Gem. An excellent choice Mournblade. Although I would like to see the entire 'Icewind Dale Trilogy' made into a film, the Halfling's Gem has all the components, twists and turns that they entire trilogy has, but all in the one novel. The range of emotions and the natures of the characters make them seem so real and personable. Their opinions and judgements, their conflicts, and their conclusions are can really make the audience feel for these characters.
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