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The Red Walker Posted - 16 Aug 2008 : 22:46:21
I hope my fellow scribes who were lucky enough to be there for this wil chime in and correct any mis-remembered facts or fill in any I missed.

But over all the Seminar was 2 Good hours of Them not sharing any secrets!! At least not as many as we would have liked.
Most of the few things I gleaned from this session were Novel based.

1) Rich Baker said expect at least 1 FR novel a month yntil..well forever. So it looks like we will not lack for Novels!
2) The Ed Greenwood Presents Waterdeep series. Thet showed a sldie showing the first three in the series. Blackstaff Tower, Mistshore and Downshadow. Ed mention he has read the first three and they were very good. He also said jokingly that it was a series of 40 stand alone novels about the new Waterdeep. I believe Rich Said they could not really say anything yet about the next two....so looks like at least 5 based on the slide or if that meant the 2 that Ed hasn't read maybe 6.
3) What/Where is Mistshore?
According to Ed , somewhere out in the harbour all the half-sunken wrecks are lashed together in a kind of floating town. It is an area that the city watch only enters in great numbers and for as short a time as possible.
4) What/where is Downshadow?
According to the even taller in Real Life Erik Scott de Bie, it is the name for the first "level" of Undermountain. It is an area where one would go after arriving in Waterdeep and not having the means to afford living in the City above. It is a somewhat structured area where one would try to keep to the shadows trying to stay alive in between killing monsters and basically kicking butt or whatever it takes to stay alive.
5) Plague of Spells - Bruce Cordell said that this follows a previous character of his through the aftermath of the spellplague.(set 10 yrs after spellplague) Also said the trilogy would explain why the Aboleth stronghold (the name escapes me) appeared over the sea of fallen stars, why it is strom shrouded and why sailors go out of their way to avoid the area near it.

Thats all I recall for now!



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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin Posted - 25 Aug 2008 : 18:39:00
quote:
Originally posted by Kuje

The Living FR/novels/sourcebooks/DDI articles will be in sync with each other, causing no errors.



I have to admit, that bit made me laugh.

"Oh, really?"

On a more serious note, thanks to all for the information.
The Red Walker Posted - 25 Aug 2008 : 15:52:19
quote:
Originally posted by Wandering_mage

quote:
Originally posted by The Red Walker

quote:
Originally posted by Wandering_mage

I for one have read a preview of Kemp's last Cale book and it is friggin' sweet! I am also hyped about Sage Schend's book, Blackstaff Tower. Schend gets the Realms, he always has.



Where did ya read it eh??

And Steven is the realms along with Ed, Brian and a few other!



Paul's Livejournal Blog. ;) Easily searchable as well.



Has anyone tried searching Paul's journal for Crack Binge and Vegas??

ed:sp
MerrikCale Posted - 22 Aug 2008 : 20:21:12
quote:
Originally posted by The Red Walker

[ I remember Ed said that the new FRCS was great, but at least 400 pages to short. The rest of the panel agreed that it was. (Brian R Cordell, Rich Baker, Chris Sims) They haope to fill that gap with Dragon articles, which a 2 page web spreads on an area.




I still prefer sourcebooks. Much better for me personally.
Wandering_mage Posted - 21 Aug 2008 : 14:10:14
quote:
Originally posted by The Red Walker

quote:
Originally posted by Wandering_mage

I for one have read a preview of Kemp's last Cale book and it is friggin' sweet! I am also hyped about Sage Schend's book, Blackstaff Tower. Schend gets the Realms, he always has.



Where did ya read it eh??

And Steven is the realms along with Ed, Brian and a few other!



Paul's Livejournal Blog. ;) Easily searchable as well.
The Red Walker Posted - 21 Aug 2008 : 13:24:06
quote:
Originally posted by Wandering_mage

I for one have read a preview of Kemp's last Cale book and it is friggin' sweet! I am also hyped about Sage Schend's book, Blackstaff Tower. Schend gets the Realms, he always has.



Where did ya read it eh??

And Steven is the realms along with Ed, Brian and a few other!
Wandering_mage Posted - 21 Aug 2008 : 04:48:08
I for one have read a preview of Kemp's last Cale book and it is friggin' sweet! I am also hyped about Sage Schend's book, Blackstaff Tower. Schend gets the Realms, he always has.
Neriandal Freit Posted - 20 Aug 2008 : 20:43:47
quote:
Originally posted by The Red Walker

Another secret just revealed...


Neri's hat was indeed a +3 hat of female repelling.

I think he wears it to give himself a buffer from all the chicks he would normally attract without it!



Oh now that's just down right funny

Only the strong survive me, any takers?
The Red Walker Posted - 20 Aug 2008 : 19:51:21
Another secret just revealed...


Neri's hat was indeed a +3 hat of female repelling.

I think he wears it to give himself a buffer from all the chicks he would normally attract without it!
Kuje Posted - 19 Aug 2008 : 01:53:06
I've always been known as Kuje and didn't know there was a wrong way to pronouce it.... since it's half of my last name but with an E at the end....
The Sage Posted - 19 Aug 2008 : 01:09:44
quote:
Originally posted by Brian R. James

The biggest secret of the Realms I learned that day... Kuje pronouces his screen name Coo-gee.
Neat. I've been pronouncing it correctly then.
The Red Walker Posted - 19 Aug 2008 : 00:59:23
quote:
Originally posted by Brian R. James

The biggest secret of the Realms I learned that day... Kuje pronouces his screen name Coo-gee.

...and Ghost King is a Cadderly novel.
...and I found out I was approved to write Ecology of the Sharn
...and I still don't have a copy of the FRCG



I forgot that Rich said Ghost King brings toether whats left of the "drizzt characters" and the "cadderly characters", I will actually look forward to that to see how he does it. And who's left.

Brian - Great job jumping up and securing that article!!

Do you need another proofreader?


and

Kuje - the scribe formerly know as Kuje, I will hence forth type Coo-gee!!
KnightErrantJR Posted - 19 Aug 2008 : 00:23:34
quote:
Originally posted by Brian R. James

The biggest secret of the Realms I learned that day... Kuje pronouces his screen name Coo-gee.

...and Ghost King is a Cadderly novel.
...and I found out I was approved to write Ecology of the Sharn
...and I still don't have a copy of the FRCG



It was pretty funny when the slide showed the preview of the article, and they asked you about about it and you responded that you guessed the article was approved since it was in the slide show . . .
monknwildcat Posted - 18 Aug 2008 : 22:18:07
Congrats on the Sharn article!

If in doubt of your author copies, there are surprisingly affordable deals on the FRCG/FRPG combo on Amazon.com (@$45US for both), Brian.
Brian R. James Posted - 18 Aug 2008 : 22:10:49
The biggest secret of the Realms I learned that day... Kuje pronouces his screen name Coo-gee.

...and Ghost King is a Cadderly novel.
...and I found out I was approved to write Ecology of the Sharn
...and I still don't have a copy of the FRCG
Wooly Rupert Posted - 18 Aug 2008 : 17:27:24
quote:
Originally posted by KnightErrantJR

Heh . . . EVERYBODY does that . . . the funny thing was that at the Pathfinder rounds, Nick Logue was so used to my screen name that he called me "Knight" or "Knight Errant" the whole con, and Josh Frost called me JR the whole time.

I take complete responsibility, but I thought that "KnightErrantJRwhichismyinitialsandnotjunior" was a bit long for a screen name . . . although it might have worked for the DL boards since I could have passed it off as a gnomish name . . .



I generally just think of you as "Knight".

"KnightErrantJ.R." would have avoided that confusion, as would "Knight Errant J.R." But maybe that's too simple.
KnightErrantJR Posted - 18 Aug 2008 : 17:17:16
Heh . . . EVERYBODY does that . . . the funny thing was that at the Pathfinder rounds, Nick Logue was so used to my screen name that he called me "Knight" or "Knight Errant" the whole con, and Josh Frost called me JR the whole time.

I take complete responsibility, but I thought that "KnightErrantJRwhichismyinitialsandnotjunior" was a bit long for a screen name . . . although it might have worked for the DL boards since I could have passed it off as a gnomish name . . .
Wooly Rupert Posted - 18 Aug 2008 : 17:08:29
quote:
Originally posted by The Red Walker

A Fun Fact learned at GenCon 2008.

There is no Knight Errant Jr.

Hells....there isn't evan a Knight Errant Sr.

What a Rip-Off!!

But lucky I didn meet Knight Errant J. R.






I thought it was Junior, too, until I saw his real name.
Kuje Posted - 18 Aug 2008 : 16:02:32
It seemed pretty much as it always has, least from the ones I've gone to. So, pretty respectful.

quote:
Originally posted by Uzzy



Anyway, how was the atmosphere? Hostile?

monknwildcat Posted - 18 Aug 2008 : 15:38:58
quote:
Originally posted by The Red Walker

Also about the Dragonborn-

Someone refered to it as a retcon, but I forgot this little bit shared by Rich(maybe Bruce, but I think Rich). The 3.5 Dragonborn are not mentioned in FRCG, so technically there are still around, just different than the new. So they could both be around.

In fact the panel said if it was not touched on in the FRCG, assume it is still there.



I recant my Greater Retcons and join Wooly in doubting any reason for reusing the name dragonborn if they leave the original dragonborn around. I foresee confusion for new 4E FR gamers, and I'm not even NostraMarkus!

Good to see you posting, KEJR!
Uzzy Posted - 18 Aug 2008 : 15:30:21
quote:
The Living FR/novels/sourcebooks/DDI articles will be in sync with each other, causing no errors.




Anyway, how was the atmosphere? Hostile?
The Red Walker Posted - 18 Aug 2008 : 14:50:02
A Fun Fact learned at GenCon 2008.

There is no Knight Errant Jr.

Hells....there isn't evan a Knight Errant Sr.

What a Rip-Off!!

But lucky I didn meet Knight Errant J. R.


The Red Walker Posted - 18 Aug 2008 : 14:41:33
Great notes Kuje.

About the Magister what was funny even thought Kuje's note is right on what they said, I think it was Rich who said they are working on/or kicking around the idea of doing a Magister Paragon path. Said there was only 1 maigister. But in your campaign, it could be you.


Also about the Dragonborn-

Someone refered to it as a retcon, but I forgot this little bit shared by Rich(maybe Bruce, but I think Rich). The 3.5 Dragonborn are not mentioned in FRCG, so technically there are still around, just different than the new. So they could both be around.

In fact the panel said if it was not touched on in the FRCG, assume it is still there.

Like Zakhara, they didn't cover it, so assume it is there with some changes.

Also Gods, if they do not mention a Gods demise, do not assume the were axed, even if they are not on "a list of Gods".
KnightErrantJR Posted - 18 Aug 2008 : 04:51:53
It was particularly fun to hear the former Living Greyhawk player, when asking about Living FR, detail the ancient litany of how PCs can never ever affect the FR in any significant way and how powerful NPCs dominate the setting.



Kuje Posted - 18 Aug 2008 : 04:41:01
Kay, here's what I kept from my notes.

The changes were for new novels and lore.

The campaign book sold out at gencon, least on saturday.

In the players book there are rules for playing drow, genasi, sword mage, high forest scout, chosen, spellcrafted something. I couldn't really read the slide to well for that one. Think it's savant/servant/savart.

The module is set in the Gray Vale.

DDI is going to have future articles, which are Ecology of Genasi and Ecology of the Sharn.

The Living FR is canon.

There is a new book called Readers Guide to Drizzt coming out soon. It contains info about npc's, the cities, etc, from books 1 to 13.

Pirate King has lore about what happens to Luskan.

Unholy is out Feb 09.

Knights three is Nov 08.

Corsair is Mar 09. The book ends with a scene within the Tears of Selune.

Shadowrealm is Dec 08. As we know, it'll help answer what happened to Mask.

Fractured Sky is Nov 08. Helps explain the cosmology changes.

Cordell's Plague of Spells is Dec 08. Book 2 is Nov 09. Oct 2010 for the last. Its set ten years after the spellplague. Deals with the aboloths.

Downshadow is Apr 09. It's set in the 1st level of Undermountain.

Fanged Crown, the 1st book of the Wilds, is Jan 09 by Jenna Helland.

Dragonborn are everywhere but not as prevalent as some other reaces.

New content is on DDI. No plans for more printed sourcebooks beyond the three. Novels will detail specifics.

Kara-tur is changed in the Spellplague.

Zakhara they never discussed. They assume it was also changed.

The Living FR/novels/sourcebooks/DDI articles will be in sync with each other, causing no errors.

Most of the events will not be giving a highly detailed timeline.

No new FR atlus.

Not all the Chosen perished but they aren't the Chosen we knew.

Magister may or may not exist. Wasn't really discussed during the meetings.

Gnomes are still in the setting.

No Undermnt reprint.

Rich has a Elven High Magic DDI article.

Divine casters of Mystra probably picked a new deity.

Dragonborn, as was said, are not the same ones as in Dragons. (Nice question Knight!)

And that was the last of my notes. Had fun chatting with Knight, Walker, and Neri during the seminar.
monknwildcat Posted - 18 Aug 2008 : 03:08:28
Gonzo-realmslore. Sweet!
KnightErrantJR Posted - 18 Aug 2008 : 02:43:55
Just needed to chime in since I was at the seminar with my esteemed fellow scribes (and sitting between Red Walker and Kuje made the whole thing a lot more bearable, thanks guys).

Also, I wanted to point out the the best line of the whole thing probably went to Paul Kemp, who was skulking in the shadows of the seminar, and when the panel noticed him, and asked him to share something about Shadowrealm, his reply was,

"I wrote this novel in 48 hours while sitting naked and on a crack bender in Las Vegas."

Or words to that effect.
crazedventurers Posted - 18 Aug 2008 : 01:17:17
quote:
Originally posted by The Red Walker

Elminster - a tidbit I forgot. Not only is he insane , he most likely was before the spellague. So anything he's said or did Cannot be trusted as he is an unreliabke reporter.
That was straight from Ed, so take it as you will.


I see no issue here as it has always been so - straight from the OGBS:
"On my word as a sage nothing within these pages is false, but not all of it may prove to be true."

Cheers

Damian

The Red Walker Posted - 17 Aug 2008 : 23:06:16
Elminster -

a tidbit I forgot. Not only is he insane , he most likely was before the spellague. So anything he's said or did Cannot be trusted as he is an unreliabke reporter.

That was straight from Ed, so take it as you will.
Hawkins Posted - 17 Aug 2008 : 18:37:39
quote:
Originally posted by The Red Walker

Paul was in the audience and said that Besides more of Cale this novel will work toward explaining what will happen with Mask.

I was soooo looking forward to this novel, and now I am almost afraid to buy and read it...
Brimstone Posted - 17 Aug 2008 : 18:31:49
-Thanks for the info.


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