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| RodOdom |
Posted - 04 Mar 2006 : 17:37:00
What would be a derogatory term against an elf, halfling or dwarf? |
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| Xysma |
Posted - 11 Oct 2006 : 16:45:26
My dwarf tosses out insults left and right, one of his favorites for dwarves and half-orcs is "you fight like an elf"
Other insults frequently heard in our games:
Halflings
"Knee-biter"
"Dinky"
Dwarves
"Bearded gnome"
"Goblin blood"
"Orcspawn"
Elves
"Fairy"
"Lady"
Half-Elves
"Mutt"
Half-orcs
"Tusker"
"One tusk"
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| Raelan |
Posted - 04 Oct 2006 : 22:34:50
Versus elves, the two strongest insults involve calling them "drow" or "dhaerow" (as others have stated) and "Vyshaan".
For dwarves, according to page 3 of Dwarves Deep, calling a dwarf "no-beard", "shorthair", "little", "human", or "little man" is insulting. |
| Rezzenthell |
Posted - 03 Oct 2006 : 13:39:24
Never call a halfling a cutpurse! Drastic measures usually follow! :S |
| VonRaventheDaring |
Posted - 10 Sep 2006 : 16:46:52
I knew it was from one of the Cunningham books. Thanks Wooly. I would think that the opposite insult to that one would be somehow refering to the gold elves as fools gold. But thats just me. |
| Wooly Rupert |
Posted - 10 Sep 2006 : 06:59:54
quote:
Originally posted by VonRaventheDaring
Awh my favorite is the gold elf insult for moon elves, simply call them dross. the leftovers from impurities in gold. its very insulting to moon elves, and usally involves a response. Course thats what gold elves want when they use it. I know its from a book.
From the latter pages of Elfshadow, to be specific. 'Twas when Arilyn was disguised as a gold elf cleric of Mielikki, and was fishing for info from a friend in the Watch. |
| VonRaventheDaring |
Posted - 09 Sep 2006 : 22:08:11
Awh my favorite is the gold elf insult for moon elves, simply call them dross. the leftovers from impurities in gold. its very insulting to moon elves, and usally involves a response. Course thats what gold elves want when they use it. I know its from a book. |
| sleyvas |
Posted - 08 Sep 2006 : 17:22:39
Ok, slurs do occasionally get nasty (and usually have a nasty origin in real life), and these are ones I can report from my games
elf - foreplay (came about as "elves are good if all you want is foreplay"), leaflover
dwarf - beer-for-brains, Hoochhead, Hairface, Shaggy, Metalhead,
halfling - mini-me, dog-rider
Mod edit: Edited for content. |
| Wooly Rupert |
Posted - 08 Sep 2006 : 17:22:03
quote:
Originally posted by Mace Hammerhand
Wasn't there a dwarven insult table in one of the older Dragon issues? 240 something maybe?
The "Dwarven Insult Generator" is on page 88 of issue 245, as part of the "Best Behavior" article by Christopher Perkins. I had to hit The DragonDex to find it.  |
| Mace Hammerhand |
Posted - 08 Sep 2006 : 14:47:31
Wasn't there a dwarven insult table in one of the older Dragon issues? 240 something maybe? |
| gribble_the_munchkin |
Posted - 08 Sep 2006 : 14:07:23
In a recent session my goody-two-shoes Sun Elf called another Elf a Vyshaanti. That got a suitably indignant response.
For the record it was because the other elf was trying to cover up the horrific murder and torture of lots of lesser nobility by my characters father and brother (closet evil necromancer types). She had wanted to conceal their crime to ensure that the elven inhabitants of Waterdeep could save face. My character had instead been of the opinion that they deserved to be arrested and tried for their crimes.
Thinking about it the worst possible insults to an Elf would probably be Vyshaan, Dhaerow and such like. Shameful reminders of the Elven peoples darkest moments. |
| stormcrow1618 |
Posted - 08 Sep 2006 : 10:14:33
quote:
Originally posted by BlackAce
A few I've heard over the years:
"Been worshiping Lolth recently?" - Said when elven cleric of Hanali lost her temper.
"Oh shut up, you short-arsed rock-walloper!" - said to a Dwarf NPC by a halfling PC of all people.
"Dwork!" - The best comeback ever by one of my players, after being extoted by a Dwarf.
Somewhat off-topic, but "Dwork!" reminded me...
Have you ever played Midnight? They've got dworgs, which the most awesome halfbreed race, generally the result of orc hordes raiding dwarf clans and raping their women. Oh man, what a race they are. I once played a dworg barbarian named Zorg. The race is just ridiculous, but fun as HELL. "ZORG SMASH!" was an oft heard phrase moments before many Legates met their doom. Dumb as a puddle of puke, though.
Of course, to my knowledge this fusion isn't canonically possible in FR, but I might just throw some dworg NPCs into my campaign for kicks.
They also had elflings, which were a halfling/elf union, and I think one involving gnomes and some other race. Some pretty neato stuff. :P |
| BlackAce |
Posted - 20 Apr 2006 : 20:08:30
A few I've heard over the years:
"Been worshiping Lolth recently?" - Said when elven cleric of Hanali lost her temper.
"Oh shut up, you short-arsed rock-walloper!" - said to a Dwarf NPC by a halfling PC of all people.
"Dwork!" - The best comeback ever by one of my players, after being extoted by a Dwarf.
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| Artalis |
Posted - 20 Apr 2006 : 17:47:17
This is because the translation of "Gray" from common to elven means "colorless" or "lackluster, having no beauty or worth"
Gray and Silver are entirely different things to elves especially Moon Elves. A nice bit of culture there.
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| The Sage |
Posted - 07 Mar 2006 : 04:55:49
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
quote:
Originally posted by Kazzaroth
Call moon elf a 'Grey elf' and you make them literally pissed off. I swear I found this referance somewhere in FR books that grey elf term is grave insult to a moon elf and used mostly by sun elves towards moon elf.
Early on in Elfshadow, Arilyn was a bit offended when a human looked at her and said "You're a gray, aren't you?" I believe the human was Sratish (sp?), and he was giving her info to get into Darkhold.
Indeed... from my novel notes -- "Gray Elf" was a derogatory term used by a human or dwarf and a deadly insult from the lip of another elf. It is normally associated with moon elves only.
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| Dargoth |
Posted - 07 Mar 2006 : 01:46:02
Elminster makes a similar comment in Elminster in Myth Drannor |
| Hoondatha |
Posted - 07 Mar 2006 : 01:31:45
Gee, finally something worthwhile comes out of that series... I'm mildly amazed.
Getting at least somewhat on topic, trying calling a dwarf a "halfer" (yes, it's from Shadowrun, but I still like it). |
| Kaladorm |
Posted - 06 Mar 2006 : 23:48:28
quote:
Originally posted by silvermage
Insult a gold elf by reminding him of the gold elves of the failure of Aryvaandar Empire, they often fume at such insults as this is the last thing they want to hear.
A moon elf is generally pale, can call him an "white-powdered dandy."
A dwarf can be insulted by saying "your whole clan is nothing more than being comprised of goblin-fathered dwarves."
Quote from The Summoning by Troy Denning
quote:
"...you should know what happens when elves and humans mix," the high mage replied. "How long ago was it that Myth Drannor fell?"
"More recently than Aryvandar," Khelben shot back. "And you can hardly blame humans for that."
The gibe drew an angry snarl from Ryence and a black glare from Bladuid. No elf - especially no Gold elf - liked to be reminded of how the Crown Wars had shattered the golden age of elven civilization
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| Wooly Rupert |
Posted - 06 Mar 2006 : 23:15:56
quote:
Originally posted by Kazzaroth
Call moon elf a 'Grey elf' and you make them literally pissed off. I swear I found this referance somewhere in FR books that grey elf term is grave insult to a moon elf and used mostly by sun elves towards moon elf.
Early on in Elfshadow, Arilyn was a bit offended when a human looked at her and said "You're a gray, aren't you?" I believe the human was Sratish (sp?), and he was giving her info to get into Darkhold. |
| Kazzaroth |
Posted - 06 Mar 2006 : 21:52:45
Call moon elf a 'Grey elf' and you make them literally pissed off. I swear I found this referance somewhere in FR books that grey elf term is grave insult to a moon elf and used mostly by sun elves towards moon elf. |
| Jindael |
Posted - 06 Mar 2006 : 12:47:23
Back in the first days of 3ed, a friend of mine made a dwarven druid. Another friend was playing a dwarven fighter. The fighter, a staunch lawful good dwarf with strong clan traditions, constantly referred to the druid as “Fleabeard”. |
| khorne |
Posted - 06 Mar 2006 : 11:04:50
Dragon: spawn of a kobold. That ought to infuriate any wyrm. |
| silvermage |
Posted - 06 Mar 2006 : 07:11:20
Insult a gold elf by reminding him of the gold elves of the failure of Aryvaandar Empire, they often fume at such insults as this is the last thing they want to hear.
A moon elf is generally pale, can call him an "white-powdered dandy."
A dwarf can be insulted by saying "your whole clan is nothing more than being comprised of goblin-fathered dwarves."
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| Shadovar |
Posted - 06 Mar 2006 : 07:01:45
Against an orc, insult him by saying his heart is the equivalent of a goblin's heart.(It means the orc is as cowardly as a goblin.)
Against an dragon, compare him to a lesser smaller race which dragons tend to hold themselves as superior over(like compare the wrym to the weakest of the smaller races) or call it a "slanted-eye worm/lizard" or "You are not a true spirited wyrm but you heart is from one of the cowardly smaller races." (Something that was mentioned during my fellow's campaign.)
Against an most elves, say they resemble hobgoblins or goblins because they have pointy ears that look similar to a goblin. "You look like a goblin, elf. Your ears are not elven but an imitation of a goblin's ears."
Against a dwarf, insult their honor and bravery. Use common terms like "cowardly shorty" or "orc feet-licker" or "goblin-hearted dwarf" or "you have no darkvision because you do not have goblin blood or say dwarf blood doesn't flow in your veins, instead it is the blood of a goblin instead."(the worst insult to a dwarf)
Against a halfling, call him/her a "sneaky hole-seeking rat" or "squat doll as they shorter than a dwarf and not thick-frame like most" |
| Dargoth |
Posted - 06 Mar 2006 : 03:57:04
I seem to recall some Elf vs Dwarf insults in Elfsong |
| RodOdom |
Posted - 06 Mar 2006 : 03:03:39
These are great ! thank you, all. |
| Conlon |
Posted - 06 Mar 2006 : 02:53:18
I was playing an elf once and a fellow party member adressed him scornfully as "Leaf Licker". Man, was I mad....I think I could only come up with "Rock Bottom" for his dwarven cleric. Weak, I know, but I was in no state for witty repartee after that Leaf Licker comment... |
| Dargoth |
Posted - 06 Mar 2006 : 01:36:37
An insult Dragons was to call them WORM instead of Wyrm
One of Laerals Daughter in the Evermeet novel calls a surface Elf an Albino Drow
Viconia (The Drow chick from the BG games) calls non Drow Iblith which translate as Offal, excretment or carrion |
| ksu_bond |
Posted - 06 Mar 2006 : 01:10:30
Dwarf - calling them or some how inferring that they are a gnome, orc, goblin, elf, or duergar. Also, anything that calls into question the length of their beard (short beard), strength, pride/honor, height, or age.
Sun Elf - simply calling them or referring to their heritage as being anything other than Sun Elven.
Wood Elf - calling them or some how inferring that they are a Sun Elf (though this could also be used for all non Sun Elves, depending on how they view their cousins)
Surface Elf - any reference to being Drow
Now for Halflings and Wild Elves, I've never really heard anything specific but some inferences can be made. Such as Halflings typically enjoy playing pranks of dwarves due to their dour moods, so to call a Halfling that would infer that they are dwarf-like I'm sure wouldn't be taken as a compliment. Similarly, Wild Elves avoid civilization and inferring that they are some how civilized would probly work, assuming of course you came across one and weren't killed for traspassing/defiling their pristine woodland. |
| Khondar |
Posted - 05 Mar 2006 : 23:52:13
Here are a few you can toss at your not-so-favorite dwarf:
dainty
fish-catching
milk-drinking
goblin/orc/troll-friend
goblin/orc/troll-spawn
tool-snatching
perfumed
elf-kissing
pixie
willow-waisted
poetry-reading
snotling-fondler
crybaby
oathbreaker
tree-climbing
troll-barf
pointy-earned
hanky-waving
beard-shaving
sissy
95% effective at offending your dwarven neighbors.
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| The Sage |
Posted - 05 Mar 2006 : 01:35:23
quote:
Originally posted by Scot Storm
I think you could call a Sylvanesti elf a Qualenisti or Sylvanesti Elf a Drow.
While that is true... it really would be only applicable on Krynn since Sylvanesti and Qualinesti elves aren't primarily Realms races.
And while calling a Sylvanesti elf a drow could be just as insulting as calling a Realms gold elf a drow... note that the reference to the drow in both examples refer to something very different. Drow in DL are simply elves (almost always Sylvanesti) who have fallen "out of the light" so to speak and are not one with the worship of Paladine -- resulting in banishment from the forest kingdom. Drow in the Realms on the other hand are represented far differently.
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