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rapunzel77 Posted - 02 Feb 2016 : 02:19:02
Hello,

My friend and I are doing a DnD based collaborative rp based in the Forgotten Realms. All our characters are elves and our two main characters, two elf sisters, are pregnant. I've tried looking for how long they would be pregnant and I've been told it is a two year gestation with a five year rest but when I read Races of the Wild (3.5 DnD supplement book), it said that elves gestate for the usual 9 months. Which is it? I've already set up a timeline for when the girls give birth and how that will effect other events taking place.

They are from Cormanthor and the years are 1373-1375 so there's a lot going on. I did make up another Elven village close to Shadowdale (I know, there isn't one in canon but I made it up) and they will have a lot to do with the Scouring coming up but they might be able to have more to do if they've already given birth so I'm wondering which is it? 9 months or 2 years?
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HALO_Project Posted - 03 Feb 2016 : 16:14:32
Concerning the mythal and aging in the area of Cormanthyr the book Cormanthyr Empire of the Elves had this to say, "Mythalongevity
Creatures who dwell within the mythal continuously for
more than five years are sustained and kept at a constant age
by the mythal (physical appearance and statistics are
#147;frozen#148; when the five-year minimum is reached). This benefit
is cancelled if the creature exits the mythal; if the individual
returns, time accumulation starts anew. Once the effect
takes hold, an individual does not age; death might come only
from violence or an accident rather than natural aging or
bodily failure. Thus, even halflings and humans can survive
for centuries by living within the mythal!
Most folk see this as a tremendous blessing, especially
those shorter-lived races who gain a chance to fulfill all their
dreams. However, this power has its drawbacks: As long as
folk dwell in this #147;stasis,#148; no gains in mental statistics due to
age are made, in trade for eliminating physical losses due to
the magical maintenance of the body. Elf (and other races#146;)
children are all born outside of the mythal#146;s influence, and
only after they learn to walk are they brought into the City of
Song.
Still, the magical longevity benefits each child#146;s learning,
as they grow for five years and then halt; even the
N#145;Tel#146;Quess understand that children learn more easily than
adults, and thus extend their children#146;s lives in study longer
than normal. All students and children of Cormanthyr (if desired)
gain their primary educations in Myth Drannor over a
ten-year period. Once beyond primary education and upon
entry into the advanced study of a trade or magic, many children
leave the mythal for a time, allowing their physical
bodies to grow stronger and taller so they might exercise
their knowledge and become adults. In addition, mental
acuity (and mental statistics) also grow in accordance with
the character#146;s physical age (not actual age). After reaching
late adolescence or early adulthood, persons of all races are
allowed to permanently settle in Myth Drannor (or within
the mythal#146;s boundaries)."

Concerning gestation periods Races of the Wild says, "Elves have a gestation period of approximately nine months, just as humans and other similarly sized creatures do."

The Complete Book of Elves says, "Following a two-year pregnancy, elf women are glad to celebrate the lightening of their burden."

The Book of Erotic Fantasy says, "Elves are noted for having one of the longest gestation times of all humanoid species - a full two years." (Of course this book also says that almost all elves are bisexual but find the label curious soooo...)

If you want to go with majority it would be two years. If you want to go with the rule of thumb, when in doubt because of inconsistencies use the most recent publication, it would 9 months. Or you can rule as gamemaster for whichever works for your world best. Just be consistent, whatever you do.

And I have also added small villages to my campaign world because I needed one. It didn't blow up my world so I think yours will be just fine. lol And even if it were a city you were adding (I know you aren't but still) just add it to the map, give it a little history to work it in and viola. How do you think all the cities that are there to begin with came to be? ^_^ Hope that helped some. Happy gaming!
rapunzel77 Posted - 03 Feb 2016 : 01:29:01
Yeah, I had them about 6 miles or so away. Could be longer and they are mostly elves but there's also a couple of humans as well.
Kentinal Posted - 02 Feb 2016 : 22:00:47
rapunzel, As I said a small village should be no problem. As far as what can be considered near, 5 miles to 10 miles seem most likely (You might have already determined this) though could be a days travel about 20 miles for most. The population of elves versus others certainly could be difference, it could be an Elven enclave with fewer humans to any percent as suits your campaign. I would not go 100 percent however as a near community, however twice of three times the percent of Elves clearly could be justified if you so desire to do so.
rapunzel77 Posted - 02 Feb 2016 : 21:02:57
Thank you for the responses. Kentinal: the village I've made up is kinda part or closely linked to Shadowdale. I know that they are supposed to have about 6% elves (I think) and I decided to make a "village" that is a little apart from them and yet linked at the same time. So far, it's been interesting and should be more later in 1374. As for as the sisters, for about three years they had been adventuring in Damara/Vaasa (that was part of a DnD game my friend and I were a part of but the DM had to go on hiatus and we wanted to do something different with out characters so we've created our own rp).

Bakra: yeah, we were told by another player that elves had to recuperate for 5 years before getting pregnant again. I've gone with it and the 2 year gestation. Thank you Dazzlerdal for that possible explanation. I suppose if they are near a mythal, the pregnancy would slow down.
Gary Dallison Posted - 02 Feb 2016 : 20:27:27
Well you could blame it on the mythal.

I'm pretty sure I remember that in Cormanthyr Empire of Elves it detailed how the elves of Cormanthor stopped aging somewhat (or at least slowed it vastly). This created the problem of young elves remaining young for a very long time and I believe they had to move to somewhere else (maybe Semberholme) in order to age.

So perhaps inside the mythal an elf foetus takes 2 years to be born but otherwise it takes 9 months.

Just an idea anyway
Bakra Posted - 02 Feb 2016 : 19:52:33
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Originally posted by rapunzel77

Hello,

My friend and I are doing a DnD based collaborative rp based in the Forgotten Realms. All our characters are elves and our two main characters, two elf sisters, are pregnant. I've tried looking for how long they would be pregnant and I've been told it is a two year gestation with a five year rest but when I read Races of the Wild (3.5 DnD supplement book), it said that elves gestate for the usual 9 months. Which is it? I've already set up a timeline for when the girls give birth and how that will effect other events taking place.

They are from Cormanthor and the years are 1373-1375 so there's a lot going on. I did make up another Elven village close to Shadowdale (I know, there isn't one in canon but I made it up) and they will have a lot to do with the Scouring coming up but they might be able to have more to do if they've already given birth so I'm wondering which is it? 9 months or 2 years?



The Complete Book of Elves mentioned a 2 year but not a 5 years rest. I agree with Kentinal, stay the course and have fun!
Kentinal Posted - 02 Feb 2016 : 02:39:42
There never is an easy answer to these types of questions, because sources conflict. One guidance I offer is that "supplement book" basically is an optional rule set that the DM can decide to use. If you told the players the 9 month rule, follow that rule and also follow other variations that change core Realms that -Races of the Wild- follow.

As for a non-mapped Elven village, the Realms has much unmapped spaces and clearly a village that the map makers did not include certainly occurs and often occur. I would not worry one bit about a Village. I would as to advice be worried about a City not being noticed, not a village because of size and population difference between the two.

In the end each campaign, home game, the DM can adjust as it is deemed best for fun of all involved.

As you planned already for time of births (barring of course events in play) you should stay that course, your village clearly should be no problem at all.

Enjoy your game.

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