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Aravine Posted - 14 Feb 2008 : 17:17:01
the zeth are a humanoid race a little taller than the average human. Scholars speculate that they are of Draconic descent they have an unearthly ability to negotiate with anyone. They distain violence at all, but understand the need to protect themselves. for this reason, there is a monk training facility in nearly every village.

Alignment: any Neutral
Abilties: -2 Str., +2 Dex, -2 Con, +4 Cha
Zeth are agile and charismatic, but thier physical prowess leaves much to be desired
Skills: +6 diplomacy
Favored Class: Monk, Sorcerer
Special qualities: charm person 1/day, darkvison 60Ft. base speed: 30ft.
Level adjustment: ???

I welcome input of any kind.
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Altai la Ibn-Ahad Posted - 27 Feb 2008 : 04:19:03
This race seems very interesting you'd think there would be a prestige like an advisor for this guy or something like that just for the fact of it's diplomacy advancement,it would be perfect because in all my D&D exp i've killed advisor and that -2 str and con would suit that prestige perfectly for that race.

sincerly

Altair
Altai la Ibn-Ahad Posted - 27 Feb 2008 : 04:18:11
This race seems very interesting ud think there would be a prestige like an advisor for this guy or something like that just for the fact of it's diplomacy advancement,it would be perfect because in all my D&D exp i've killed advisor and that 12 str and gon would suit that prestige perfectly for that race.

sincerly

Altair
Aravine Posted - 25 Feb 2008 : 15:57:59
quote:
Originally posted by Fhaorn quessir

Give me some descriptions and I'll do the concept art for you sometime.
Try to make some Zeth exclusive spells and items, that always spices it up.

Regards,
Fhaorn'quessir




Well, let's see


this race is over six feet tall(there will always be smaller and larger, but on average...) Lanky, they have an ovoid head

Like humans, they have different skin colors, however, they have a mettalic sheen, like thier ancensters were. like thier kin,as they age, thier eyes fade. However, quite unlike their kin, the Zeth are humble, wearing coarse clothing. (I'm seeing something like Luke wore in a New Hope).

that's all for now. let me know If you think of something else.
Iliyan Posted - 21 Feb 2008 : 10:13:45
My sudgestion is give the race a bonus feat, namely

Skill Focus( Diplomacy)

and completely sack the +8 diplomacy bonus...

Alignment: I'd say neutral races dont rly exist >< something like this might be in order for such a race you explained:

Alignment: LN, NN, NG
Abilities: -2str, +2dex, -2con, +4cha
Skills: -2 Sense Motive( due to them not being acquainted with lies)
Feats: Skill Focus( Diplomacy)
Favored Class: Bard( lets face it, sorcerers aren't the most calm of classes, they are actualy one of the most wild ones... ><)
Spell Like Abilities: Charm Person 1/day
Special Qualities: Low Light Vision( 4 Times more the Humans)(this is because darkvision is kinda out of place for them...)
Level Adjustment: +0
Fhaorn quessir Posted - 20 Feb 2008 : 23:53:51
Give me some descriptions and I'll do the concept art for you sometime.
Try to make some Zeth exclusive spells and items, that always spices it up.

Regards,
Fhaorn'quessir
sirreus Posted - 19 Feb 2008 : 18:18:10
i was just trying to get a feel for their disposition. for the record i agree with you on the 'always' thing
Aravine Posted - 19 Feb 2008 : 17:29:08
quote:
Originally posted by sirreus

i suppose with their -2str and con,they will
look gangly? i would disdain violence too
is the alignment a 'usually' or 'always'?



I don't beleive in "always" because it's a misnomer. in the Half-feind entry in the MM. it says "All too rarely, thouh, one learns from and takes on the characteristics of its nonfeindish parent, turning from its evil heritage. yet they are "always"(any) evil.

my point is that there are always going to be rebels, always, in any society.so the awnser to that question is "usually"
sirreus Posted - 15 Feb 2008 : 20:32:43
maybe drop it to +2 dipl and make it a class skill(racial)
BARDOBARBAROS Posted - 15 Feb 2008 : 13:13:04
LA : 0
Aravine Posted - 15 Feb 2008 : 13:02:30
quote:
Originally posted by Iliyan

i think that the race might be good, but it needs more fluff, and its not exactly PC friendly( -2 con is awful...)

LA would be : 0

you gave them a total of +8 to diplomacy just like that, you do know that diplomacy can be tweaked skyhigh easy enough...

lets say a Zeth aristocrat lvl 2( NPC class)

lets say: 14 cha, 12 int...

he gets 20 skill points at 1st level +5 = 25 skill points
5 in bluff, 5 in sense motive, 5 in diplomacy, 5 in knowledge (nobility, royality) and 5 surplus

Diplomacy check:

d20 + [ 6( racial)+2( ability)+5( ranks)+6( bluff, sense motive, knowledge synergy) +2( negotiator feat)]

on a avareage roll of 10, he has a diplomacy check of 31...

which is bloody overpowering for a 2nd lvl NPC!!!

my point beeing, you might want to reconsider the +6 to diplomacy, since if the character says HI to your players they all are in love wiht him... ><




What would you suggest?
Iliyan Posted - 15 Feb 2008 : 10:29:08
i think that the race might be good, but it needs more fluff, and its not exactly PC friendly( -2 con is awful...)

LA would be : 0

you gave them a total of +8 to diplomacy just like that, you do know that diplomacy can be tweaked skyhigh easy enough...

lets say a Zeth aristocrat lvl 2( NPC class)

lets say: 14 cha, 12 int...

he gets 20 skill points at 1st level +5 = 25 skill points
5 in bluff, 5 in sense motive, 5 in diplomacy, 5 in knowledge (nobility, royality) and 5 surplus

Diplomacy check:

d20 + [ 6( racial)+2( ability)+5( ranks)+6( bluff, sense motive, knowledge synergy) +2( negotiator feat)]

on a avareage roll of 10, he has a diplomacy check of 31...

which is bloody overpowering for a 2nd lvl NPC!!!

my point beeing, you might want to reconsider the +6 to diplomacy, since if the character says HI to your players they all are in love wiht him... ><
sirreus Posted - 15 Feb 2008 : 05:07:30
i suppose with their -2str and con,they will
look gangly? i would disdain violence too
is the alignment a 'usually' or 'always'?

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