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| kororoti |
Posted - 11 Sep 2008 : 21:46:16
I'm part of a small group of gamers that still revere the 3.x series of books, but I can't seem to find any that deal with the areas around Tethyr. I have an old second edition book, but it would be nice to find something closer to present.
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| Nilus Reynard |
Posted - 24 Sep 2008 : 10:38:30
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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Sadly, that's how I see it--the setting has decisively been moved away from much of what attracted me to it in the first place.
Agreed. All of this new material makes the Realms seem a bit less attractive to me. |
| Faraer |
Posted - 16 Sep 2008 : 16:22:00
Novels, yes, Christopher, though much of what they'll be expanding isn't the Realms that has been developed thus far. Even at present levels, likely to fall when focus moves to the next setting, the online support is a trickle that would take centuries to catch up the Realmslore backlog; it would be very hopeful to expect the influence of the Living campaign to be other than negative, as in the past, and if we're hoping, we can hope Wizards will resume publishing the 14th-century Realms.quote:
Originally posted by Christopher_Rowe
And most importantly, I believe that the expansion and deepening of the Realms is continuing because you and I are having this conversation, in this place, right now.
You hardly have to tell me that.quote:
Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Originally posted by Faraer
The current designers have claimed repeatedly that the Realms' depth is a weakness; the cull of gods, lands, characters and magic removed far more elements, of much greater depth, than were added...
Sadly, that's how I see it--the setting has decisively been moved away from much of what attracted me to it in the first place.
Yeah, though that wasn't my point, which is true even if one likes the new things better. |
| Rinonalyrna Fathomlin |
Posted - 16 Sep 2008 : 02:03:48
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Originally posted by Faraer
The current designers have claimed repeatedly that the Realms' depth is a weakness; the cull of gods, lands, characters and magic removed far more elements, of much greater depth, than were added...
Sadly, that's how I see it--the setting has decisively been moved away from much of what attracted me to it in the first place. |
| Christopher_Rowe |
Posted - 16 Sep 2008 : 01:30:31
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Originally posted by Faraer
Christopher, what gives you the impression that the expansion and deepening is continuing? The current designers have claimed repeatedly that the Realms' depth is a weakness; the cull of gods, lands, characters and magic removed far more elements, of much greater depth, than were added; and there will be no sourcebooks for further expansion and deepening to happen in anyway.
Wizards has in fact all but stopped taking part in Ed's project of progressively detailing the Realms -- the purpose he sold them the rights for in the first place.
Novels continue to be written and published--there's at least one per month scheduled for the next year.
New Realms content continues to appear and to be actively solicited for inclusion in Dragon and Dungeon magazines. The Living Forgotten Realms at RPGA involves thousands of individuals and is always recruiting, and they're also actively seeking new gaming designs in the form of modules and characters.
Two other points. While there are no FR gaming print products currently scheduled, I join Ed Greenwood in believing that the sales of the current products will have more to do with what happens in that department next than a three-year marketing plan.
And most importantly, I believe that the expansion and deepening of the Realms is continuing because you and I are having this conversation, in this place, right now. |
| Markustay |
Posted - 16 Sep 2008 : 00:20:20
Pretty much spot-on.
If this attitude continues, the 5eFR setting book will be just a blank journal you can fill-in yourself. |
| Faraer |
Posted - 16 Sep 2008 : 00:16:53
Christopher, what gives you the impression that the expansion and deepening is continuing? The current designers have claimed repeatedly that the Realms' depth is a weakness; the cull of gods, lands, characters and magic removed far more elements, of much greater depth, than were added; and there will be no sourcebooks for further expansion and deepening to happen in anyway.
Wizards has in fact all but stopped taking part in Ed's project of progressively detailing the Realms -- the purpose he sold them the rights for in the first place. |
| Hawkins |
Posted - 15 Sep 2008 : 15:54:34
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Originally posted by Christopher_Rowe
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Originally posted by Markustay
...it doesn't look like any version of the Realms will ever be 'finished'.
As a living setting, continually expanded and deepened by the imaginations of many writers, editors, designers, artists, coders and other creators--including most especially, of course, the founding creator, Ed Greenwood--isn't that by design? Actually, isn't that kind of the point?
You are missing the point, Ed has himself said that he had intended to detail each of the continents. However, Wasbro, with their manifesto of "change," decided to tear Faerun to pieces and put it back together rather than to allow him to do that. See, they could have ushered in the 4e Realms by having one of the undetailed continents be discovered, and introduced all the new 4e elements that were not already in the Realms through this (and more if necessary) continent. |
| Kyrene |
Posted - 13 Sep 2008 : 19:51:13
Also try a Google search: "Tethyr site:www.wizards.com" and see if any of those throw away mentions help you any. Like panning for gold, sometimes you strike a real nugget. |
| Christopher_Rowe |
Posted - 13 Sep 2008 : 16:19:19
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Originally posted by Markustay
...it doesn't look like any version of the Realms will ever be 'finished'.
As a living setting, continually expanded and deepened by the imaginations of many writers, editors, designers, artists, coders and other creators--including most especially, of course, the founding creator, Ed Greenwood--isn't that by design? Actually, isn't that kind of the point? |
| Markustay |
Posted - 13 Sep 2008 : 04:10:41
Yes, it would have been nice if they had completed the 3e Realms before moving onto 4e Realms.
With 5e only a couple of years away, and their current business model (of no new setting regional books), it doesn't look like any version of the Realms will ever be 'finished'. |
| ShadezofDis |
Posted - 12 Sep 2008 : 16:50:37
Powers of Faerun has a tiny bit as well (maybe more than a tiny bit, I forget) but they talk about the . . . monster empire (damned if I'm gonna track down the name) and that's relatively close, and talks a bit about some towns defecting from Amn to Tethyr. If I'm remembering correctly. ;) |
| The Sage |
Posted - 12 Sep 2008 : 14:21:08
That, or he may be referring to Empires of the Sands. |
| StarBog |
Posted - 12 Sep 2008 : 11:15:27
Possibly Lands of Intrigue, Sage? |
| The Sage |
Posted - 12 Sep 2008 : 01:22:16
Which old 2e edition book are you referring to? There was more "recent" lore on Tethyr in Empires of the Shining Sea and Cloak & Dagger. And Volo's Guide to Baldur's Gate II as well.
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| Hawkins |
Posted - 11 Sep 2008 : 23:56:25
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Originally posted by kororoti
I'm part of a small group of gamers that still revere the 3.x series of books, but I can't seem to find any that deal with the areas around Tethyr. I have an old second edition book, but it would be nice to find something closer to present.
There is a bit in the 3e FRCS and the Grand History of the Realms. Other than that, they seemed to think that rather than giving us new, detailed books on places like Cormyr and Tethyr that the Spellplague would be fun. |
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